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Icreased invul would be nice. I've had games where I never rolled a single 5+. 4++ to 3++ with stratagem.

Sad that the codex will not see any of the FW Knights...GW Knights are just so boring...

4++ to 3++ with a strat sounds really good. But a 3++ to 2++ sounds ridiculous.
The missiles however would be exactly what a knight army needs against pesty characters that they would normally never been able to reach.

gendoikari87 wrote:
Also it was stated August in one of the rumors with orks in November

That rumour had already incorrect stuff though. And would mean GW managed to screw up 40k releases big time by saying they would release all factions in a year and then make it like 1.5 years. When around this time last year this year releases would be generally pretty well be known...

tneva82 wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:
Also it was stated August in one of the rumors with orks in November

That rumour had already incorrect stuff though. And would mean GW managed to screw up 40k releases big time by saying they would release all factions in a year and then make it like 1.5 years. When around this time last year this year releases would be generally pretty well be known...

I would really want them quicker than that, but in what world are orks not released in the month of orktober? Make it a big release, put it on the white dwarf cover and call it orktoberfest.
Anyways I think Knights are imminent, why else would they put up that regimental standard article?

If Orks arent always released in Orktober i vote we go to GW and waaagh.

It would be fun if Orktober was a thing again.

But this is the Imperial Knight thread, so let's stick to that shall we?

 BrookM wrote:
It would be fun if Orktober was a thing again.

But this is the Imperial Knight thread, so let's stick to that shall we?

Hopefully we will get Gerantius as a special character, because his thing was killing Orks and being a ghost. Hopefully that means we get big stomoy Ork robot rules to fight him... around orktober.

https://spikeybits.com/2018/05/imperial-knight-houses-rules-rumors.html

Yo dawg these are nice and imma let you finish but where my house Terryn rules at

Quoting the relevant bit of that crapshow article:

9 houses for the knights, Questor Imperialis- Terryn, Griffith, Hawdhrous, Cadmus and Mortan. Questor Mechanicus- Raven, Krast, Taranis, Vulker.

Griffith +1A on change, when charged or HI, ya lots of ways to heroiclly intervene with all knights. Raven advance & shoot with no penaly, heavy weap become assault type. Vulker Reroll 1’s to hit if shooing closest target

A new class desg of Knight for the Valiant / Casteallan DOMINUS

See, the thing about the Houses for me in that its probably going to mean mixed Houses on the table. After all, each knight is its own detachment, and therefore Battleforged.

I'd rather see a Knight army all from the same house, rather than a Castellian from Raven, a Gallant from Griffith and a Warden from Vulker.

This could easily be fixed with a note stating that in order to get the full House benefits you must field a super-heavy detachment and not a super-heavy auxiliary detachment.

Given the whole feudal theme a force of mixed houses(and freeblades) could be quite thematic IMO.

 drazz wrote:
See, the thing about the Houses for me in that its probably going to mean mixed Houses on the table. After all, each knight is its own detachment, and therefore Battleforged.

I'd rather see a Knight army all from the same house, rather than a Castellian from Raven, a Gallant from Griffith and a Warden from Vulker.

Is that really worth losing 3/6CP though?

 xttz wrote:

 drazz wrote:
See, the thing about the Houses for me in that its probably going to mean mixed Houses on the table. After all, each knight is its own detachment, and therefore Battleforged.

I'd rather see a Knight army all from the same house, rather than a Castellian from Raven, a Gallant from Griffith and a Warden from Vulker.

Is that really worth losing 3/6CP though?

Its viability is all up in the air until the codex arrives. But if you add a couple of Armiger frames alongside any of those knights you have a proper lord of war detachment.

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 xttz wrote:

 drazz wrote:
See, the thing about the Houses for me in that its probably going to mean mixed Houses on the table. After all, each knight is its own detachment, and therefore Battleforged.

I'd rather see a Knight army all from the same house, rather than a Castellian from Raven, a Gallant from Griffith and a Warden from Vulker.

Is that really worth losing 3/6CP though?

Its viability is all up in the air until the codex arrives. But if you add a couple of Armiger frames alongside any of those knights you have a proper lord of war detachment.

And if the new price for armigers is really less than a leman russ as rumoured then they're suddenly real interesting if you run them with house raven.

House raven? Why?

gendoikari87 wrote:
House raven? Why?

Because of this rumor:

Raven advance & shoot with no penaly, heavy weap become assault type.

Not too shabby, especially since they're Questor Mechanicus and so get access to Canticles on top of that if brought with AdMech.

As much as I'm running my own house for my knights..Raven seems REALLY good to count as..

why is everyone so up on raven it really only gives bonuses to the mini walkers the big ones can already move and shoot.

Advance and shoot.

So they all get to be Gerantius?

Advance and shoot will be very, very good especially if the dual ranged Armiger option is a heavy weapon. Zipping them around 15-20inches and shooting on their cheaper platform will be quite formidable.

An advancing Knight Errant or Warden can also be quite a juicy thing to throw at the enemy, it certainly gives them a better chance at striking first hard given the limited range of their primaries.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Advance and shoot will be very, very good especially if the dual ranged Armiger option is a heavy weapon. Zipping them around 15-20inches and shooting on their cheaper platform will be quite formidable.

no just no. Dual ranged means no CC weapons. so why ever care about advancing?

The stomp is more effective than any available CC weapon in most situations. The only exception is when you're facing off against a vehicle heavy army.

gendoikari87 wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Advance and shoot will be very, very good especially if the dual ranged Armiger option is a heavy weapon. Zipping them around 15-20inches and shooting on their cheaper platform will be quite formidable.

no just no. Dual ranged means no CC weapons. so why ever care about advancing?

Because mobility. having 1-6 extra inches could make the difference when trying to get them near an objective.

We also do not know the other house abilities. But if there is no ranged specific one, then I really think this is a great way to add a lot of mobility to a ranged knight.

 Arlen wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Advance and shoot will be very, very good especially if the dual ranged Armiger option is a heavy weapon. Zipping them around 15-20inches and shooting on their cheaper platform will be quite formidable.

no just no. Dual ranged means no CC weapons. so why ever care about advancing?

Because mobility. having 1-6 extra inches could make the difference when trying to get them near an objective.

We also do not know the other house abilities. But if there is no ranged specific one, then I really think this is a great way to add a lot of mobility to a ranged knight.

https://spikeybits.com/2018/05/6-new-knight-house-rules-spotted-rumors.html

we do now.

Questor Imperial Houses

Terryn: extra d6 advance or change
Cadmus: reroll wounds in CC on anything with less than 12w profile
Griffith: +1A when charging, charged, or via Heroic Intervention.
Mortan: +1 to hit when charging, charged, or via Heroic Intervention.
Hawkshroud: has double wounds for statline purposes when damaged
forgoten knight walpaper

Questor Mechanicus Houses

Raven: When they make Advance moves, treat Heavy weapons as Assault weapons.
Taranis: 6+ FNP against Mortal Wounds.
Krast: RR hits when charging, charged, or via Heroic Intervention against TITAN keyword
Vulker: Rerolls 1’s when targeting the closest enemy unit during the shooting phase.

an extra D6 on the charge on something that already has a 14" move is super dangerous T1 charges potentially


BUUUUUT i'll probably run hawkshroud

Terryn seems good. Hawkshroud I think depends a bit on if questor imperialis gets a version of machine spirit resurgence (or if admech even gets to keep that). If that stratagem still exists then hawkshroud doesn't seem as tempting in my opinion. As of right now Raven still seems really solid in my eyes.

A lot is going to be determined by Stratagems and relics I expect, given that each one is going to boost 20% of your army in one go.

Pretty much. If Terryn gets a crotch banner that makes nearby IMPERIUM units have +1 LD, but Cadmus gets a Gatling Cannon that generates two wound rolls for every successful hit, I suspect we'll see a lot of counts as green bois rather than Terryn.