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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 13:27:11
Subject: Re:Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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There's been a lack of big mechs to fight abominations in so far....
Plus it seemed like we were constantly getting bombarded with add ons in previous campaigns. Not so with this one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 14:44:42
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Could be on purpose.
All those add-ons could have caused complications/costs that CMON doesn't want to deal with. Maybe they just don't add that much to their bottom line to be worth it to them?
But I'd agree with you on the mechs thing - give us more mechs!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 15:23:05
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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-Loki- wrote:Green Horde got a dragon near the end. I’m guessing they’ve got something lined up for Invader.
Think one of the CMON mods said the big dragon-sized mini in Invader was unlikely after looking into the Eightball. I hope to get a big one though and a big robot or mech...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 18:02:12
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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The turrets are on Ambomination size base, so maybe, but maybe not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 19:26:39
Subject: Re:Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well I didn't expect that - not just an expansion but a full fledged base game in itself- this got the better xenos designs
For $90 this Optional Buy gives you Zombicide: Dark Side! This is an entirely new standalone core box, including all the content you would expect in a Zombicide base game: Survivors, Machines, Xenos, Tiles, Missions, Equipment, Tokens, etc. While Dark Side is an independent entry point into the Zombicide sci-fi universe, it is also fully compatible with Zombicide: Invader, which means it also acts as an expansion for it, bringing a lot more content to your game.
In Dark Side, players take on the role of the soldiers of Green Squade and delve into the underground mining facilities of PK-L7. There they will face a new breed of Xenos: Drillers! these red devils benefit from the pits that the Driller Abomination digs up, using them for extra protection, and to make surprise attacks on the Survivors. Players will also have to contend with the crushing darkness of the tunnels, which severely hamper ranged combat. With new equipment at their disposal, and new tactics to be learned, Green Squad might just stand a chance to make its way out of the dark!
Dark Side will be produced as a Limited Print Run. This means we will only produce enough quantity to fulfill the backers' orders and any other retail pre-orders, but have no plans to reprint at this time. To be clear, this is not a Kickstarter Exclusive, and will be available at retail. But numbers will be limited, so if you want to guarantee a copy, the safe way is to include it in your pledge.
By purchasing Dark Side in this campaign, you will also get some awesome extras not available in the retail version: A booklet featuring 10 new Missions that mix together elements from both the Invader and Dark Side boxes. These Missions also utilize a new game mechanic: Companions that will help the Survivors in their mission. 3 Kickstarter Exclusive Scientist Companions are included, each granting Survivors a different benefit. These extra elements are explored more in depth towards the end of this Update.
The Driller Abomination is the stuff of nightmares. This huge beast is all claws and horns and other things that skewer and gore. Its attacks deal 3 damage, instantly killing even an armored soldier. Like all Abominations, it gets an extra activation whenever an Abomination card is drawn, or the players run out of a type of Xeno miniatures, so it can be on top of you when you least expect it. Bringing it down requires 3 damage, which can be obtained by using a Seismic Grenade, or concentrating your fire.
Driller Workers are the grunts of this Xeno race. Spawning in large numbers, Workers may quickly surround the Survivors, specially if spawning from Open Pits. While Workers are usually not a big challenge to put down, things could become tricky if you need to eliminate them while entrenched in an Open Pit. Having to deal 2 Damage to kill each Driller Worker is no picnic!
That Hunters are a very real threat, Survivors should already be aware of (2 actions per activation usually means a quick death, even dealing only 1 damage per attack). However, Driller Hunters charging at you under the cover of darkness is a whole other level of terror! Try to draw them into a building, preferably to the corridors, so you may stand a chance of shooting them down a couple Zones away. If you're fighting them in the dark tunnels, you're in deep trouble. Don't even dream of engaging them in a Pit Zone, where it will take 2 Damage to destroy each of them.
Driller Tanks deal 2 damage in a single attack, which is enough to kill most Survivors in one hit. Thankfully they are not very fast, so if you meet them in the dark tunnels you may still be able to position yourself to take them on. But for all that is holy don't allow them to take protection in an Open Pit Zone. Having to deal 3 Damage to take one down means no normal weapon will do the job, it will be like attacking an Abomination!
Survivors
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This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2018/04/23 19:31:27
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 19:45:45
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Love it!
Not sure if I $90 Love It though.
But of course they've incentivized us appropriately with that 'limited but not exclusive' thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 19:58:24
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Now if that had been the base game i'd have backed by now
not sure I can justify buying the base game just to own the expansion game
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 20:06:09
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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"It's not possible to get Dark Side instead of Invader." - Just in case absolutely everyone was wondering.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 20:09:44
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Those new alien look great ! They are so much better than the ones in the base box (the new survivors still looks like bad 40k knockoff though).
I wish I could pledge for dark side in place of the base box.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 20:12:29
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Expendable Defender Destroid Rookie
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ecurtz wrote:"It's not possible to get Dark Side instead of Invader." - Just in case absolutely everyone was wondering.
Thanks! I was actually just wondering that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 20:16:30
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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You guys complaining about rivets in the soldiers' armor ought to be happier with the new survivors in Dark Side. They have significantly fewer. Personally, I like the fact that even though only one is actually wearing his helmet, almost all of them are at least carrying their headgear with them. They also each appear to have unique designs, which does actually make me disappointed that they aren't wearing them.
The aliens are also a huge improvement. I like the set overall, I'm just not sure about that $90 price tag.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 20:26:14
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Stoic Grail Knight
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Darkside just makes me feel taken advantage of. CMON basically just announced that they are running another KS campaign within Z: Invader. Why not spend their energy and my money making Invader the best it can be? And I think I will burst a blood vessel if Darkside starts getting unlocks while Black ops continues to languish.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 20:35:45
Subject: Re:Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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They should've just used these aliens instead of what's in the actual core box.
I may get it. Maybe. I like the designs. Maybe just sell off Invader and a few stretch goals to pay off the stand alone game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 20:40:56
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Dark Side looks totally better than the original box. The Space Mahreens look cooler and the xenos look much much much cooler...
I dropped another 90 which pretty much means no up-pledge for Street Fighter II...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 20:44:46
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Well, this one is obviously better looking(though that is a bit subjectional), but why give people chance to choose which one they want to buy when you can sell em both? More or less same thing in the end, but hey, more money in CMON pockets.
If this was first box, I could have been tempted to back, since I do like this one more, though, it really looks even more 40k ripp off(SM&nids expansion).
They really wanna milk this franchize...not sure should they change they logo to something more in line with cows...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 20:59:17
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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smurfORnot wrote:Well, this one is obviously better looking(though that is a bit subjectional), but why give people chance to choose which one they want to buy when you can sell em both? More or less same thing in the end, but hey, more money in CMON pockets.
If this was first box, I could have been tempted to back, since I do like this one more, though, it really looks even more 40k ripp off( SM&nids expansion).
They really wanna milk this franchize...not sure should they change they logo to something more in line with cows...
They look similar to GW because the main artist for this ZCide is Adrian Smith, a former GW artist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 20:59:23
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I can be an all or nothing kind of chap at times. I just can’t justify the cost of getting the two base games plus the expansion and the add on gangs (around £200 I think), but I know I’ll feel forever dissatisfied if I only got part of it. So, weird as it might seem to some, this latest add on has convinced me not to back at all.
I like it, I don’t love it. I certainly don’t 200 quid like it. Plus, I’m pretty certain that there’ll be another Zombicide along eventually that I might like better. So, I’m out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 21:05:49
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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MonkeyBallistic wrote:I can be an all or nothing kind of chap at times. I just can’t justify the cost of getting the two base games plus the expansion and the add on gangs (around £200 I think), but I know I’ll feel forever dissatisfied if I only got part of it. So, weird as it might seem to some, this latest add on has convinced me not to back at all.
I like it, I don’t love it. I certainly don’t 200 quid like it. Plus, I’m pretty certain that there’ll be another Zombicide along eventually that I might like better. So, I’m out.
I understand your thinking. A lot must be thinking the same. The $$$ rise, but the backers waiver between 11,848-11,852 for the past hour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 21:26:15
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Stoic Grail Knight
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Popsghostly wrote: MonkeyBallistic wrote:I can be an all or nothing kind of chap at times. I just can’t justify the cost of getting the two base games plus the expansion and the add on gangs (around £200 I think), but I know I’ll feel forever dissatisfied if I only got part of it. So, weird as it might seem to some, this latest add on has convinced me not to back at all.
I like it, I don’t love it. I certainly don’t 200 quid like it. Plus, I’m pretty certain that there’ll be another Zombicide along eventually that I might like better. So, I’m out.
I understand your thinking. A lot must be thinking the same. The $$$ rise, but the backers waiver between 11,848-11,852 for the past hour.
I don't even like Darkside but my completionist mentality is telling me to just back the whole game for 0 dollars. I actually quite like the base game Xenos (except the spoiler abom) as I think they will make nice Deep ones for some mythos/Conan gaming. I don't like the Darkside ones much because they suffer from spike overload.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 21:35:21
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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Darkside looks far better than the original offering.
Nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 21:51:12
Subject: Re:Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Stalwart Ultramarine Tactical Marine
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Do I understand this right? They put their worst alien designs in the core box, you have to buy to get the cool stuff? It is like buying the rejects to get the chance to buy something else.
I mean it makes sense, business wise, but it feels like a big scrotum move.
I will wait for a retail version and what it will actually contain. Maybe the ballsack tentacles will be kickstarter exclusive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 22:55:14
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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I've asked them for a Dark Side pledge level with a link to this thread and BGG. We'll see.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/23 23:44:16
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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They did it on purpose. There will be no "good stuff only" pledge because it would defeat the purpose.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/24 00:16:21
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Expendable Defender Destroid Rookie
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I might back just the Dark Side, but Invader just doesn't interest. The alien minis are way better in Dark Side.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/24 02:18:35
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Snord
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I really like the scientist companions.
I had no interest in backing the game but I am watching to see if they do make a pledge level with Dark Side as the base game
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/24 02:32:53
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Norn Queen
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That put me off backing. Put better alien designs in another base game and not allow me to choose the base game I want?
Nah I think I’ll pass now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/24 02:54:32
Subject: Re:Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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em... what?
Is captain hook an attempt to shove in a rogue trader character?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/24 02:59:07
Subject: Re:Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Now I know the French aren't really involved with this iteration of the game.
Warlock? Space pirate?
How is this not a Captain Harlock reference?
For shame Guillotine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/24 03:59:05
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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The New Miss Macross!
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I'm late to the party so I'm just catching up at over $1.8mil. Am I correct that they're basically offering three boxes (two variant cores and one expansion)? All with different figs?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/24 05:16:58
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Yeah, but like Jacob you first must pledge for the Leah core set and then pledge more for the Rachel core set. I guess the expansion is one of the handmaidens..?
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