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Well, there goes any chance of me NOT buying more models right now. Don't really have much use for the AdMech stuff, but I actually need more Lychguard and Immortals, and I've been looking forward to the new Cryptek and Armigers.

 Galef wrote:
The real question now is "How do you make this set use all models for the same army? Skeletal Mechanicus or a Necron force with Ranger-like Warriors and bi-pedal Triarch stalkers?"

You just eBay or trade the side you're not using...super simple. In many cases you'll make back more than half of the box's cost just re-selling the stuff you're not using.

 Elbows wrote:

 Galef wrote:
The real question now is "How do you make this set use all models for the same army? Skeletal Mechanicus or a Necron force with Ranger-like Warriors and bi-pedal Triarch stalkers?"

You just eBay or trade the side you're not using...super simple. In many cases you'll make back more than half of the box's cost just re-selling the stuff you're not using.

Most likely what I may do. My son is interested in Necrons and the Lychgaurd box has so, so many possibilities. I could easily make them into 5 Wraiths and make the Wraiths into Spiders.
Like so: http://glennsgwmodels.blogspot.com/2015/03/necron-canoptek-units.html
We'll have to wait an see just how interested he is when this comes out.

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Man this box is a home run for me, I wanted some more deathmarks, and some scytheguard, add in some bonus wraiths and the new cryptek, and it's like the read my mind.

I also have a knight and thought about starting an admech army, this box plus a knight plus a start collecting box and I'm off to the races.

 Grimgold wrote:
Man this box is a home run for me, I wanted some more deathmarks, and some scytheguard, add in some bonus wraiths and the new cryptek, and it's like the read my mind.

I also have a knight and thought about starting an admech army, this box plus a knight plus a start collecting box and I'm off to the races.

Seems like you're in an almost identical situation as I am.

I've been wanting a couple more shieldguard and deathmarks and liked the look of that new Cryptek. I don't need another 3 wraiths but I'm not unhappy to pick them up, either.

I've got a lone Imperial Knight and I've been planning (for ages now) to start an AM army...so the rest of the box contents all fit into what I wanted to be doing in the future, anyway. Looks like my Knight gets a couple of squires and my AM project is off to a start.

This is the first box set in a long time where I'm happy with literally every inclusion. I can't wait for this thing.

Yep. I need some shield guard and Gauss Immortals, and more Wraiths are always welcome. The fact that I've been wanting a way to field my two IK models is just icing on the cake!

 Galef wrote:
The real question now is "How do you make this set use all models for the same army? Skeletal Mechanicus or a Necron force with Ranger-like Warriors and bi-pedal Triarch stalkers?"

Same here, I have no use for admech - ranger and tech priest.. but I would conversion them into AM - tech priest engineer and guardman.

I wonder if there will be rules changes considering the necrons.
It wouldn't make sense for them to use the index rules if the codex is about to be released, and balance wise I don't see how the necrons can deal with 2 mini-knights without resorting to melee, which is a risky endeavor.

Sold.

changemod wrote:
It's meant to be an enhanced optic. The average Necron Lord isn't a big fan of modifying the general form of his body

Actually, current generic Necron Lord mini has the same 'third eye' thing as Deathmarks or 'teks:



[though yes, he seems to be exception compared to named guys].

That would appear to be an element of his headdress, or if it is an optic then it's not really the same thing as the crypteks and Deathmarks completely replacing their original eyes.

My friend wants to split the box and give me the necrons. I'm thinking, hold on, two knights, and some cool ad-mech, and I get the robo-bone cast-offs :(

Still I love this box. I'm not even into these two armies, but they look like fun to build and paint.

ritualnet wrote:
My friend wants to split the box and give me the necrons. I'm thinking, hold on, two knights, and some cool ad-mech, and I get the robo-bone cast-offs :(

Still I love this box. I'm not even into these two armies, but they look like fun to build and paint.

To be fair, looking at the Necron side of it:
5x Immortals/Deathmarks(your choice again)---$33 USD
5x Lychguard/Praetorians(your choice again)---$33 USD
3x Wraiths---$47 USD
The new Cryptek--???USD

$113USD before the new Cryptek(ballparking him at $30 or so)

AdMech:
10x Skitarii--$39 USD
Techpriest Dominus--$36 USD
Knight Armiger Warglaives---????USD

$75USD before the Armiger Warglaives, with both being available in SC: Skitarii along with an Onager($66USD) instead of the 2x Knight Armiger Warglaives.

I'm currently ballparking the Armiger at $65USD personally. It's big, but it's not huge. It'd be crazy for them to sell it for $100 or so since Knight-Wardens are $157.

Loving the Armiger knights. Just the right size and build for me to get into Questoris.

If you are gonna split this with a Necron player, the price should go something like 40/60, 40% for the Necron 60% for the Admech player. Or 50/50, because the Admech HQ and infantry is in a SC!, that lowers his value, but the Necron units are all different from the SC! box.

What i don´t get how something, what has less mass to it than a land raider (and is not that bigger than an dreadnought) can be a superheavy oO

Seito O wrote:
What i don´t get how something, what has less mass to it than a land raider (and is not that bigger than an dreadnought) can be a superheavy oO

Same here. I would have though Heavy Support. Still, cool model and you get 2!

I'm amazed how many people are downplaying the size of the new knight actually, it looks about as tall as a Dreadknight but bulkier. If it's "like a dreadnought" then it's a heavy dread like the leviathan at least, and those have just short of a superheavy threat capacity.

I guess Redemptors are underwhelming for their mass, but they're a bit of an outlier.

Seito O wrote:
What i don´t get how something, what has less mass to it than a land raider (and is not that bigger than an dreadnought) can be a superheavy oO

Because the army is full of Lords of War?

The Knights look sizeable enough, and of that lance they have packs a punch then I’m okay with the LoW classification. Comparable to Rowboat Gill-man I suppose.

Seito O wrote:
What i don´t get how something, what has less mass to it than a land raider (and is not that bigger than an dreadnought) can be a superheavy oO

Because there isn't a 'superheavy' designation anymore, and the LoW slot can be considered to be as much about rarity as size?

I'd like to see how the Warglaive's look in other houses colours(and shouldn't house Raven be fighting alongside Metallica not Mars?). Hopefully the full release will have more options for both the weapon loadout and cosmetic stuff like heads/helms.

So this is a backdoor alternative 8E starter set?

 Hammer of God minis wrote:
Over the last few months I’ve been trying to decide if I wanted to start a new Necron or Ad Mech army.....decision made.....

Both? :-)

Getting 1+ of these, minus Necrons.

Doesn't look like it. Appears to be another mini-game.

Chairman Aeon wrote:
So this is a backdoor alternative 8E starter set?

That would seem to be the case, yes. Rather than having a full rulebook in it like Dark Imperium does, it seems like it has cutdown rules that fit into the "Forgebane" booklet and the little cardboard screen.

Definitely gonna pick this up. I have some Crons and some AdMech that I’ve wanted to expand for a while.

Hmm realized skitarii vanguards are armed with rad carbines which are also usable in 30k. Assuming those rangers in this boxes are actually full ranger/Vanguard kit I COULD use those for starting mechanicum army for 30k giving reason to buy these. Sell necrons, have bunch of peltast phalanx guys for 30k and pair of mini-knights for home games(since I need to come up with rules not usable outside home games).

Temptation actually woke up.

tneva82 wrote:
Assuming those rangers in this boxes are actually full ranger/Vanguard kit I COULD use those for starting mechanicum army for 30k giving reason to buy these.

You seem to post this kind of commentary every time these big boxes/start collecting sets come out.
It's the full kit, they're not cheaping out or whatever silly theory of the week you want to have about how they're going to make the box a 'bad deal' for someone.

It's 10 Skitarii there. You can't build 10 Skitarii without all 3 sprues in the box. End of story.

He's not getting the box, not until they do 30k rules for the Armigers.