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2019/01/31 10:23:32
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Doctoralex wrote: Heeya folks, was thinking of this list for an upcoming ITC tourney. Note that it is a MONO-faction tourney. Absolutely no flavours of soup are served:
Sautekh Battalion: Immotekh, Warlord
Cryptek
3x5 Tesla Immortals
9x Tomb Blades /w Tesla , 7 with shield vanes
6x Destroyers
Triach Stalker
Sautekh Spearhead
Lord /w Hyperphase Sword.
3x DDA
What do you think? Too much anti-tank? Especially since it's mono-faction, so Knights probably won't be on the table.
I can't say what monofaction exactly means for your meta. IG still can put down quite a large number of tanks. However, no, I don't think your list is too packed with AT. I think it looks great. I have a very similar list. The only comment I have is the Lord. You're paying 68pts for a single CP, actually, as he has just about 0 utility in your list. If you removed him and put the DDAs in your battalion, you'd miss a CP and gain 68 pts (especially, since both detachments are sautekh). With those 68 pts you can either add more TB's and make 2 groups instead of one, or add immortals, or add scarabs for screening and protection. (If I were you, I'd also pay at least a cloak for my cryptek)
"After Aeons of slumber the Necrotyr awakend to harvest the galaxy anew... but realizing they will never be Ultramarines, the Necrotyr descended into stasis once more."
2019/01/31 11:17:00
Subject: Re:Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
The lord goes with the immortals, to re-roll 1s to wound. A DDA works against hordes as well with its gauss flayers. No, its not to much anti tank. A DDA can epic fail if you roll really bad. Thats why you use at least two, to even the odds. I would remove a tomb blade and a destroyer to add some scarabs.
2019/01/31 11:25:23
Subject: Re:Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
p5freak wrote: The lord goes with the immortals, to re-roll 1s to wound. A DDA works against hordes as well with its gauss flayers. No, its not to much anti tank. A DDA can epic fail if you roll really bad. Thats why you use at least two, to even the odds. I would remove a tomb blade and a destroyer to add some scarabs.
Yeah but only have 15 Immortals, so he's not doing much.With three squads of 10, it might be worth it but not for minimum squads. Drop the Lord.
But yeah, get some scarabs. I also question how worthwhile Imotehk is going to be without more Immortals too. You could drop to an Overlord and save another 60+ points.
2019/01/31 15:50:01
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I've had oulandish success with Imotekh buffing 2x5 Teslamortals
I would say it was fine as is personally
Experience is something you get just after you need it The Narkos Dynasty - 15k Iron Hands - 12k The Shadewatch - 3k Cadmus Outriders - 4k Alpha Legion Raiders - 3k
2019/02/03 19:50:14
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
hortsmann wrote: Why bother with a brigade if all you want is immortals? Battallion is generally a better idea, unless you are very limited in number of detachments.
Yeah should be fairly straightforward to set up what you want or need, compared to the requirements of various detachments.
Likely one or more of the three elite options will feel like a tax in the brigade, on the other hand, 4 HQs to support 6 troop choices is probably less unreasonable, plus you get more CPs.
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2019/02/04 02:14:06
Subject: Re:Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I won a 2000 point match today at my local 40k meetup, it was the Tactical Cascade mission from CA2018 against Black Templars. I tried to play for the objectives as best as I could while grabbing cover as well. The match ended on the 5th round with Necrons 7VPs to Black Templars 3 VPs.
Tauris_Blazestar wrote: I won a 2000 point match today at my local 40k meetup, it was the Tactical Cascade mission from CA2018 against Black Templars. I tried to play for the objectives as best as I could while grabbing cover as well. The match ended on the 5th round with Necrons 7VPs to Black Templars 3 VPs.
It's always seemed like one of the more lacklustre relics to me.
Once the Overlord with the Sempiternal Weave finally made it into combat in the last rounds it didn't seem to make much of a difference. Paying for the extra artefacts was a bit of a waste since the only one that had an affect on the field is the Veil of course.
2019/02/04 16:53:12
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
It's always seemed like one of the more lacklustre relics to me.
Once the Overlord with the Sempiternal Weave finally made it into combat in the last rounds it didn't seem to make much of a difference. Paying for the extra artefacts was a bit of a waste since the only one that had an affect on the field is the Veil of course.
Nephrekh destroyers are very mobile already, I would have thought the veil was a bit lackluster on them too...
2019/02/04 19:11:34
Subject: Re:Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I have a 1500 pt game vs Blood Angels coming up. Thinking I might run this list and see what happens. Thoughts?
Spoiler:
Novokh Battalion
Lord - VoidBlade, VoD
Overlord - Blood Scythe, Immortal Pride
x10 Gauss Immortals
x10 Gauss Immortals
x9 Tesla Immortals
x6 Destroyers
x10 Lychguard with Sword and Shield
x2 Doomsday Arks
Ends up giving me 1498 points, and 7cp to work with
Bedouin Dynasty: 10000 pts
The Silver Lances: 4000 pts
The Custodes Winter Watch 4000 pts
MajorStoffer wrote:
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Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum.
2019/02/04 21:53:59
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Blood Angel's are really gonna want to get the jump (heh) on those Destroyers. I know you probably don't WANT to make them into an Aux detachment for Nephrekh and keep them in Deep Strike, but you might want to consider it.
Also Scarabs are amazing as Novokh because that rerolling really offsets the WS4+ they have.
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
2019/02/04 22:00:58
Subject: Re:Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
As a BA player i wouldnt advise going melee against them, they hit really hard. Shoot them from far away, and screen with scarabs. They die quite fast to tesla, unless your opponent brings SG with a sang ancient and the standard of sacrifice, those guys are hard to kill. Watch out for captn slamguinius, mephiston, librarian dreadnought. Those can easily wipe out six destroyers in one turn. I suggest mephrit tesla immortals. If he charges them any 6 you roll will be 3 hits with AP-1.
2019/02/05 00:01:59
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Slayer-Fan123 wrote: Actually, going to melee is perfectly fine if you get off the charge first to strike first.
Charge with what ? Immortals ? Destroyers ? The only real melee unit in his army are the lychguard. If i want to go into melee with BA i would bring wraith.
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2019/02/05 01:05:53
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Slayer-Fan123 wrote: Actually, going to melee is perfectly fine if you get off the charge first to strike first.
Charge with what ? Immortals ? Destroyers ? The only real melee unit in his army are the lychguard. If i want to go into melee with BA i would bring wraith.
If it's a squad of only a couple of dudes left, it is perfectly fine to be ultra aggressive and charge to finish the squad off, even if an Immortal two died in the process.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Or if Slamguinus only had a wound or two left as well. You can only pass a 3+/5+++ so many times.
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CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
2019/02/05 03:20:31
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I should mention, I believe this is going to be a casual, friendly game vs BA. Not sure that helps.
Bedouin Dynasty: 10000 pts
The Silver Lances: 4000 pts
The Custodes Winter Watch 4000 pts
MajorStoffer wrote:
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Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum.
2019/02/05 04:09:05
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I have to say, I'm a little impressed by the diversity of the Necron lists at LVO, especially considering there are not a ton of them. That is a good sign at least that the internal balance is pretty solid (even if the external balance still leaves a lot to be desired). It's not just Seraptek Walker or destroyer wing ad nauseum. DDAs are in every list if I recall correctly, and at least a squad of immortals, but from there you have lists that focus on a fair variety of units.
11,100 pts, 7,000 pts
++ Heed my words for I am the Herald and we are the footsteps of doom. Interlopers, do we name you. Defilers of our
sacred earth. We have awoken to your primative species and will not tolerate your presence. Ours is the way of logic,
of cold hard reason: your irrationality, your human disease has no place in the necrontyr. Flesh is weak.
Surrender to the machine incarnate. Surrender and die. ++
Tuagh wrote: If you won't use a wrench, it isn't the bolt's fault that your hammer is useless.
2019/02/05 14:09:09
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Maelstrom808 wrote: I have to say, I'm a little impressed by the diversity of the Necron lists at LVO, especially considering there are not a ton of them. That is a good sign at least that the internal balance is pretty solid (even if the external balance still leaves a lot to be desired). It's not just Seraptek Walker or destroyer wing ad nauseum. DDAs are in every list if I recall correctly, and at least a squad of immortals, but from there you have lists that focus on a fair variety of units.
But as you said they probably get stomped anyway...We literally have no competitive list. Maybe DDA „spam“ plus Destroyers.
2019/02/05 15:51:17
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Well, I don't think any of us expect to win. Top 8 is almost as unlikely. I think that in the end, most of us are shooting for a a fun time and a winning record. Picking up enough points to get back into the top ten Necron players for the ITC season would be nice for me as well.
11,100 pts, 7,000 pts
++ Heed my words for I am the Herald and we are the footsteps of doom. Interlopers, do we name you. Defilers of our
sacred earth. We have awoken to your primative species and will not tolerate your presence. Ours is the way of logic,
of cold hard reason: your irrationality, your human disease has no place in the necrontyr. Flesh is weak.
Surrender to the machine incarnate. Surrender and die. ++
Tuagh wrote: If you won't use a wrench, it isn't the bolt's fault that your hammer is useless.
2019/02/05 16:11:11
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Maelstrom808 wrote: Well, I don't think any of us expect to win. Top 8 is almost as unlikely. I think that in the end, most of us are shooting for a a fun time and a winning record. Picking up enough points to get back into the top ten Necron players for the ITC season would be nice for me as well.
Dont want to make LVO bad for you.
Wish you much fun and best of luck as a necron player myself!
Its just that im getting more and more into competitive play and I have established 40k as my MAIN hobby so to speak...its making me sad and partly angry to see the situation the necrons are in right know.
2019/02/05 17:29:18
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Well, you can be competitive with them, but it takes a lot of practice and games. The reality is all other things being equal, we will be at a disadvantage vs the top lists, but I have played top players and they are not insurmountable. Dice can go hot or cold, and even the best guys make mistakes.
I've played Necrons since 4th edition, from the horrors of using the 3rd edition dex in 5th to the other extreme of utterly dominating in 6th. I'd rather be on the lower end of the spectrum than the other. Every win is sweeter, you don't have to hear all the whining about how broken your army is, and you tend to offer something that players don't see every other time they step up to the table.
I had a game with a cocky guy back in early 5th that kind of mockingly apologized for what he was going to do to my army. I simply told him, that yeah, he'd probably win because he had a stronger codex, but if he lost, he just lost to the worst army in the game. It didn't go well for him, and it still stands out as one of my favorite victories
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11,100 pts, 7,000 pts
++ Heed my words for I am the Herald and we are the footsteps of doom. Interlopers, do we name you. Defilers of our
sacred earth. We have awoken to your primative species and will not tolerate your presence. Ours is the way of logic,
of cold hard reason: your irrationality, your human disease has no place in the necrontyr. Flesh is weak.
Surrender to the machine incarnate. Surrender and die. ++
Tuagh wrote: If you won't use a wrench, it isn't the bolt's fault that your hammer is useless.
2019/02/06 16:20:21
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
So, i'm looking at a whole lot of stuff about GSC. Looks like a rough matchup for us. As always...looks like tesla immortals and large max units of scarabs will be absolutely key to keep our shooters shooting.
Bedouin Dynasty: 10000 pts
The Silver Lances: 4000 pts
The Custodes Winter Watch 4000 pts
MajorStoffer wrote:
...
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum.
2019/02/06 17:00:15
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
iGuy91 wrote: So, i'm looking at a whole lot of stuff about GSC. Looks like a rough matchup for us. As always...looks like tesla immortals and large max units of scarabs will be absolutely key to keep our shooters shooting.
Times arrow does really well against GSC. Most of the new charcters are 4 wounds. If you roll a 5+, or 4+ for a T Vault, you can straight up remove that charcter. Or model.
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iGuy91 wrote: So, i'm looking at a whole lot of stuff about GSC. Looks like a rough matchup for us. As always...looks like tesla immortals and large max units of scarabs will be absolutely key to keep our shooters shooting.
Times arrow does really well against GSC. Most of the new charcters are 4 wounds. If you roll a 5+, or 4+ for a T Vault, you can straight up remove that charcter. Or model.
Fair, believe it or not though, i have never used Time's Arrow. I only ever use Sky of Falling Stars, Cosmic Fire, and Antimatter Meteor.
Maybe this army is a good matchup for that power.
Bedouin Dynasty: 10000 pts
The Silver Lances: 4000 pts
The Custodes Winter Watch 4000 pts
MajorStoffer wrote:
...
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum.
Iron Hands - 12k 
The Shadewatch - 3k 
Cadmus Outriders - 4k 
Alpha Legion Raiders - 3k 
4000 pts
7,000 pts
