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I had a 2 vs 1 game recently where I brought a silly Novokh 1k list:

Overlord + Veil + Voidscythe + Reroll charge WL trait

10x Lychguard
Nightbringer

6x Wraith
6x Scarabs
5x Scarabs

The list was really fun and surprisingly effective, and the HQ turned out to be a nice cheap way of getting Lychguard into combat. MWBD + reroll charges gives a 66% chance of a successful charge after teleporting (the odds would be higher when you include the option to CP reroll 1 of the charge dice).

I decided to add another 1000pts of "sensible" units and was surprised how much stuff I could get. It feels like it's a pretty good army:



The Novokh outrider should be able to keep opponents occupied while the Battalion does its shooting thing.

I used it to great effect against T'au once, I quite like that power

When I get a Deciever, he'll get Cosmic Fire and Time's Arrow, because he's always gonna be in range

Focusing your list into melee is super fun with Necrons: we are absolutely death incarnate in some match ups but especially against T3 stuff that AP-3 devours.

I know Kutlakh is a thing but I really don't like how bogus it feels to take the Maynarkh Dynasty as what ever Codex Dynasty you fancy and then using a Forgeworld Datasheet for which no non proxy/kitbash model exists.

I just wish they'd give us an HQ model that allows advance and charge or at least boosts movement.

dapperbandit wrote:
Focusing your list into melee is super fun with Necrons: we are absolutely death incarnate in some match ups but especially against T3 stuff that AP-3 devours.

I know Kutlakh is a thing but I really don't like how bogus it feels to take the Maynarkh Dynasty as what ever Codex Dynasty you fancy and then using a Forgeworld Datasheet for which no non proxy/kitbash model exists.

I just wish they'd give us an HQ model that allows advance and charge or at least boosts movement.

Would be nice with some HQ that could go policing with the praetorians. But then you're suddenly talking the Triarch and likely only the silent king which.. I dunno.. is a bit too strong, more a primarch class character at 400 points. It'd be nice to have a smooth working army without resorting to more power creep

Moosatronic Warrior wrote:

The list was really fun and surprisingly effective, and the HQ turned out to be a nice cheap way of getting Lychguard into combat. MWBD + reroll charges gives a 66% chance of a successful charge after teleporting (the odds would be higher when you include the option to CP reroll 1 of the charge dice).

I have been running this as well, 10 lychguard and 6 wraiths in a Novokh outrider and it really works wonders for taking pressure off the rest of the army, since those wraiths are usually making it into combat turn 1 and the lychguard have a good chance as well

wow - 3 overlords! Did the lack of 5++ vs ranged, or 4+ RP hurt at all, or was the tri-overlords well worth it?

Yeah, I do have a soft spot for Novokh. I think melee necrons are pretty fun and viable, the only problem is you need to find a way to get them stuck in, because Lychguard are bloody slow.

hvg3akaek wrote:
wow - 3 overlords! Did the lack of 5++ vs ranged, or 4+ RP hurt at all, or was the tri-overlords well worth it?

In my experience the 4+ almost never matters because people tend to just focus units until they are dead, which the 5++ also does not help much with. 3" range just is too short most the time. I usually go overlord and lord, that way the tesla immortals get to reroll 1's

Yeah, the chrnometron really isn't that good due to its short range and weak strength. Its only useful for warrior blob, as they have the numbers to make that 5++ count and are pretty slow. Its expensive too, which is the final nail in the coffin.
I find myself using the cloak more often. It gives extra mobility, which allows you to quickly reposition the cryptek and provide buffs when needed, and he's excellent as a Veil of Darkness carrier.

Fair enough - I usually keep my immortals close together, so the 3" doesn't matter as much. Then again, my group of friends don't often get past 1500 games, so the "destroy a unit with 5++ in one round" doesn't trigger that often.

dapperbandit wrote:
Focusing your list into melee is super fun with Necrons: we are absolutely death incarnate in some match ups but especially against T3 stuff that AP-3 devours.

I know Kutlakh is a thing but I really don't like how bogus it feels to take the Maynarkh Dynasty as what ever Codex Dynasty you fancy and then using a Forgeworld Datasheet for which no non proxy/kitbash model exists.

I just wish they'd give us an HQ model that allows advance and charge or at least boosts movement.

Don't ever think of it as bogus, because remember the price point for Kutlakh.

Quixeemoto wrote:


I have been running this as well, 10 lychguard and 6 wraiths in a Novokh outrider and it really works wonders for taking pressure off the rest of the army, since those wraiths are usually making it into combat turn 1 and the lychguard have a good chance as well

I can never decide between Scythes or sword and board on the Lychguard.

The scythes can do some serious damage. If you want to be silly you can do: MWBD + Novokh + the +1 strength strat + fight again strat = 40, 2s rerolled to hit, S8 AP-4 D2 attacks. That's overkill on a Knight. Also because they are teleporting into combat they can be hidden somewhere safe until needed, so defense is less important.

On the other hand, with dispersion shields they are much safer if they fail the charge. The dispersion shield amplification strat gives them a 3++, making them basically the same as the Wraith stat wise. Two 3++ T5 multi wound units rushing at the enemy can draw a huge amount of firepower away from the rest of the army.

wow - 3 overlords! Did the lack of 5++ vs ranged, or 4+ RP hurt at all, or was the tri-overlords well worth it?

Crypteks are auto includes if you are using warriors as troops, and are also very tempting to take alongside Warscythe Lychguard. They don't do a lot for immortals though, the 5++ comes up much less often, and the +1 RP gets you one model extra on average from 6 deaths. That doesn't come close to the buff MWBD provides to Tesla Immortals. The Overlord is also useful on his own, having a hugely better stat line for about the same point cost.

In this particular list the Lychguard need MWBD to help pull off a charge, and the Tesla Immortals all want it too. 3 Overlords is just enough.

Warscythe lychguard should love the chronometron, come to think of it. Their biggest weakness (aside from their speed) is the lack of invul, which makes them considerably more fragile than their shield counterpart. Whilst the chrono is only 5++, you do get a better RP on top of it, so in theory it comes out roughly the same as shieldguard with no cryptek.

You can give the chronotek a veil of darkness to teleport them closer to try to get a sneaky charge off.

Moosatronic Warrior wrote:

I can never decide between Scythes or sword and board on the Lychguard.

The answer is simple. Dont use them. They are 28 ppm. With scythes they do decent damage, but die to fast, with sword and shield they dont do enough damage, but can take a hit. A solution to this problem would be mixed weapons, all other can do that, but necrons cant

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
You can give the chronotek a veil of darkness to teleport them closer to try to get a sneaky charge off.

The issue is that if they make the charge it is unlikely they will be in range of the cryptek, so it doesn't help you after the charge. If they fail the charge they are probably dead anyways. In general i tend to play on boards with a good amount of terrain so with clever movement when charging usually you can place them into cover so they have a 2+, which means unless someone is shooting you with ap -4 weapons the 5++ doesn't matter. Also an overlord gives them +1 to charge and hit so as someone mentioned above it makes them very deadly on the charge against knights with +1 strength. You need a full unit though because a castellan on average dice kills like 3 or 4 of them in overwatch.

 p5freak wrote:

Moosatronic Warrior wrote:

I can never decide between Scythes or sword and board on the Lychguard.

The answer is simple. Dont use them. They are 28 ppm. With scythes they do decent damage, but die to fast, with sword and shield they dont do enough damage, but can take a hit. A solution to this problem would be mixed weapons, all other can do that, but necrons cant

I could imagine a mixed unit of Novokh with 2 Swords/Shields and 3 Warscythes makes a good TAC choice. feth our army though!

Yesterday Alex Fennel used his Pinkcrons to battle against Marc Merrill's Eldar mixed army in a charity exhibition match:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/376823401?t=00h13m54s

Thoughts? Comments?

So just finishing Game 1 at the LVO, how well did the Necrons do in general? I believe there are currently 2 in the top 10, though doesn't matter much at this time.

 Draco765 wrote:
Yesterday Alex Fennel used his Pinkcrons to battle against Marc Merrill's Eldar mixed army in a charity exhibition match:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/376823401?t=00h13m54s

Thoughts? Comments?

I love Pinkcrons no matter who uses them.

They have a name.

The Lovecrons

elook wrote:
So just finishing Game 1 at the LVO, how well did the Necrons do in general? I believe there are currently 2 in the top 10, though doesn't matter much at this time.

List of Thomas Christensson who ended 5th place for day 1.
https://i.imgur.com/2w3U3ry.png

Got to say, it is definitely an odd list.

image of the top 6 ranks from BCP:
https://i.redd.it/djaji0ep7if21.jpg

 Draco765 wrote:

elook wrote:
So just finishing Game 1 at the LVO, how well did the Necrons do in general? I believe there are currently 2 in the top 10, though doesn't matter much at this time.

List of Thomas Christensson who ended 5th place for day 1.
https://i.imgur.com/2w3U3ry.png

Got to say, it is definitely an odd list.

image of the top 6 ranks from BCP:
https://i.redd.it/djaji0ep7if21.jpg

Nice.
But it doesn't say anything.
It will become interesting when the players in the top bracket meet.

 Draco765 wrote:

List of Thomas Christensson who ended 5th place for day 1.
https://i.imgur.com/2w3U3ry.png

Got to say, it is definitely an odd list.

It is an odd list. The lord is useless in the nihilakh detachment. Two ghost arks for 2x10 warriors ? Why ? I dont think this list will win anything from now on. If it does i wanna know his tactic.

Yeah I'm pretty bedaffled.

I guess warriors also serve some screening duty then.


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It's definitely a fast list though. Everything only the lord and cryptek would be foot slogging. Immortals probably staying close to 24" if possible. dunno.

I'm more confused about the CCB not being given the relic Staff. 3 Warscythe attacks aren't gonna do much when that's the only melee element outside the Wraiths.

 iGuy91 wrote:
I have a 1500 pt game vs Blood Angels coming up. Thinking I might run this list and see what happens. Thoughts?

Spoiler:

Novokh Battalion

Lord - VoidBlade, VoD
Overlord - Blood Scythe, Immortal Pride

x10 Gauss Immortals
x10 Gauss Immortals
x9 Tesla Immortals

x6 Destroyers
x10 Lychguard with Sword and Shield

x2 Doomsday Arks

Ends up giving me 1498 points, and 7cp to work with

Ended up having a change of plans, and ended up playing eldar instead with slight alterations to the list.
Surprisingly, the lychguard made their turn 1 charge, killed their target, and in the subsequent shooting phase, dealt more mortal wounds out with the strategem than they took from shooting before wading through a whole bunch of dark reapers. Overall very solid performance.
Good times.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I'm more confused about the CCB not being given the relic Staff. 3 Warscythe attacks aren't gonna do much when that's the only melee element outside the Wraiths.

Since he has the warscythe, defiantly can not use the staff, but we do not know what artifacts he deiced to use because they do not have to be on the submitted list as you pick them before the start of the game.

 Draco765 wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I'm more confused about the CCB not being given the relic Staff. 3 Warscythe attacks aren't gonna do much when that's the only melee element outside the Wraiths.

Since he has the warscythe, defiantly can not use the staff, but we do not know what artifacts he deiced to use because they do not have to be on the submitted list as you pick them before the start of the game.

I'm saying it would make more sense to start him with the Staff in the first place and use the Relic slot on it.

Not that it mattered....the top 8 at lvo were 3 Eldar Soups, 3 Castellan/Loyal32, a tau, and a chaos.


What a bore.

 p5freak wrote:

 Draco765 wrote:

List of Thomas Christensson who ended 5th place for day 1.
https://i.imgur.com/2w3U3ry.png

Got to say, it is definitely an odd list.

It is an odd list. The lord is useless in the nihilakh detachment. Two ghost arks for 2x10 warriors ? Why ? I dont think this list will win anything from now on. If it does i wanna know his tactic.

The one thing that comes to me is that a Ghost Ark has the firepower of 10 warriors, but for only 35 points more it also has increased maneuverability and resilience? Like 10 warriors vs a Ghost Ark, the Ghost Ark wins by a mile for not much more.

But yeah, odd list. I think it's an anomaly, that looks more like a list of stuff he had lying around that he could build an army with.