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 Draco765 wrote:
Quixeemoto wrote:

That is why I commented in the first place, I figured it was better to let people know if they don't check the Facebook pages/use Facebook. And it obviously is not clear given the way LVO ruled and the discussion that was had in the Facebook group. In their minds they ARE following the GW FAQs


Per GW they only have three ways they distribute updates to their rules:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/15/the-future-of-faqs-and-chapter-approved-dec-15gw-homepage-post-2/
"1) regular, corrective updates through codex errata, 2) twice-a-year ‘big’ FAQs to deal with larger issues and address balance in the game and, of course, 3) Chapter Approved."

Facebook for an LVO event is not one of the three.

That ruling (which was incorrect based on the actual wording of the FAQ) only counted for that particular LVO, no where else.


Sure sure, but that's not the point he tried to make.

Tournaments will follow suit, doesn't matter how rightly or wrongly LVO did it. Be prepared.

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It's one giant pain in the ass, that's for sure. I'd kill for GW to step up their game here.
   
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Jackson, TN

torblind wrote:
 Draco765 wrote:
Quixeemoto wrote:

That is why I commented in the first place, I figured it was better to let people know if they don't check the Facebook pages/use Facebook. And it obviously is not clear given the way LVO ruled and the discussion that was had in the Facebook group. In their minds they ARE following the GW FAQs


Per GW they only have three ways they distribute updates to their rules:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/15/the-future-of-faqs-and-chapter-approved-dec-15gw-homepage-post-2/
"1) regular, corrective updates through codex errata, 2) twice-a-year ‘big’ FAQs to deal with larger issues and address balance in the game and, of course, 3) Chapter Approved."

Facebook for an LVO event is not one of the three.

That ruling (which was incorrect based on the actual wording of the FAQ) only counted for that particular LVO, no where else.


Sure sure, but that's not the point he tried to make.

Tournaments will follow suit, doesn't matter how rightly or wrongly LVO did it. Be prepared.


Until the FAQ changes, it is an invalid ruling and should be disregarded in any other event. But then again, ITC is not known for following GWs rules.

If a TO pulled that ruling with me, I would ask them to prove that "stratagems" includes "artifacts". Not in intent, but in actual publication.
   
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 Draco765 wrote:
torblind wrote:
 Draco765 wrote:
Quixeemoto wrote:

That is why I commented in the first place, I figured it was better to let people know if they don't check the Facebook pages/use Facebook. And it obviously is not clear given the way LVO ruled and the discussion that was had in the Facebook group. In their minds they ARE following the GW FAQs


Per GW they only have three ways they distribute updates to their rules:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/15/the-future-of-faqs-and-chapter-approved-dec-15gw-homepage-post-2/
"1) regular, corrective updates through codex errata, 2) twice-a-year ‘big’ FAQs to deal with larger issues and address balance in the game and, of course, 3) Chapter Approved."

Facebook for an LVO event is not one of the three.

That ruling (which was incorrect based on the actual wording of the FAQ) only counted for that particular LVO, no where else.


Sure sure, but that's not the point he tried to make.

Tournaments will follow suit, doesn't matter how rightly or wrongly LVO did it. Be prepared.


Until the FAQ changes, it is an invalid ruling and should be disregarded in any other event. But then again, ITC is not known for following GWs rules.

If a TO pulled that ruling with me, I would ask them to prove that "stratagems" includes "artifacts". Not in intent, but in actual publication.


I don't get it. Aren't they free to make any ruling they like if there's a dispute?


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 Werekill wrote:
It's one giant pain in the ass, that's for sure. I'd kill for GW to step up their game here.


Not with veil'ed in lychguard you're not. Hirr hirr.

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 Draco765 wrote:
torblind wrote:
 Draco765 wrote:
Quixeemoto wrote:

That is why I commented in the first place, I figured it was better to let people know if they don't check the Facebook pages/use Facebook. And it obviously is not clear given the way LVO ruled and the discussion that was had in the Facebook group. In their minds they ARE following the GW FAQs


Per GW they only have three ways they distribute updates to their rules:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/15/the-future-of-faqs-and-chapter-approved-dec-15gw-homepage-post-2/
"1) regular, corrective updates through codex errata, 2) twice-a-year ‘big’ FAQs to deal with larger issues and address balance in the game and, of course, 3) Chapter Approved."

Facebook for an LVO event is not one of the three.

That ruling (which was incorrect based on the actual wording of the FAQ) only counted for that particular LVO, no where else.


Sure sure, but that's not the point he tried to make.

Tournaments will follow suit, doesn't matter how rightly or wrongly LVO did it. Be prepared.


Until the FAQ changes, it is an invalid ruling and should be disregarded in any other event. But then again, ITC is not known for following GWs rules.

If a TO pulled that ruling with me, I would ask them to prove that "stratagems" includes "artifacts". Not in intent, but in actual publication.


And if you disputed the judge's call, you'd likely just get overruled anyway. I had a judge at a smaller RTT tell me wobbly model was in effect for a supersonic flier that had no legal placing on the board because I had filled up all the space with guardsmen. it was an absurd call in blatant violation of the rules but guess what? I will lose that argument 100% of the time because once a judge makes a call, that's it.

You can bring the Lychguard/MWBD/Veil combo to an ITC event, just be aware that you have a high chance of getting screwed over until an official FAQ comes out to override the LVO ruling, which is what me and the other guy are trying to say.


As an addendum, every single one of you should be emailing 40kfaq@gwplc.com to get this resolved in clear writing.

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RogueApiary wrote:
 Draco765 wrote:
torblind wrote:
 Draco765 wrote:
Quixeemoto wrote:

That is why I commented in the first place, I figured it was better to let people know if they don't check the Facebook pages/use Facebook. And it obviously is not clear given the way LVO ruled and the discussion that was had in the Facebook group. In their minds they ARE following the GW FAQs


Per GW they only have three ways they distribute updates to their rules:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/15/the-future-of-faqs-and-chapter-approved-dec-15gw-homepage-post-2/
"1) regular, corrective updates through codex errata, 2) twice-a-year ‘big’ FAQs to deal with larger issues and address balance in the game and, of course, 3) Chapter Approved."

Facebook for an LVO event is not one of the three.

That ruling (which was incorrect based on the actual wording of the FAQ) only counted for that particular LVO, no where else.


Sure sure, but that's not the point he tried to make.

Tournaments will follow suit, doesn't matter how rightly or wrongly LVO did it. Be prepared.


Until the FAQ changes, it is an invalid ruling and should be disregarded in any other event. But then again, ITC is not known for following GWs rules.

If a TO pulled that ruling with me, I would ask them to prove that "stratagems" includes "artifacts". Not in intent, but in actual publication.


And if you disputed the judge's call, you'd likely just get overruled anyway. I had a judge at a smaller RTT tell me wobbly model was in effect for a supersonic flier that had no legal placing on the board because I had filled up all the space with guardsmen. it was an absurd call in blatant violation of the rules but guess what? I will lose that argument 100% of the time because once a judge makes a call, that's it.

You can bring the Lychguard/MWBD/Veil combo to an ITC event, just be aware that you have a high chance of getting screwed over until an official FAQ comes out to override the LVO ruling, which is what me and the other guy are trying to say.


As an addendum, every single one of you should be emailing 40kfaq@gwplc.com to get this resolved in clear writing.


Now, do you go around and tell everyone that people should not plan their list to be able to block supersonic fliers via that method in every game? No, because it was a bad call at a single event, by a single judge.


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torblind wrote:
 Draco765 wrote:
torblind wrote:
 Draco765 wrote:
Quixeemoto wrote:

That is why I commented in the first place, I figured it was better to let people know if they don't check the Facebook pages/use Facebook. And it obviously is not clear given the way LVO ruled and the discussion that was had in the Facebook group. In their minds they ARE following the GW FAQs


Per GW they only have three ways they distribute updates to their rules:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/15/the-future-of-faqs-and-chapter-approved-dec-15gw-homepage-post-2/
"1) regular, corrective updates through codex errata, 2) twice-a-year ‘big’ FAQs to deal with larger issues and address balance in the game and, of course, 3) Chapter Approved."

Facebook for an LVO event is not one of the three.

That ruling (which was incorrect based on the actual wording of the FAQ) only counted for that particular LVO, no where else.


Sure sure, but that's not the point he tried to make.

Tournaments will follow suit, doesn't matter how rightly or wrongly LVO did it. Be prepared.


Until the FAQ changes, it is an invalid ruling and should be disregarded in any other event. But then again, ITC is not known for following GWs rules.

If a TO pulled that ruling with me, I would ask them to prove that "stratagems" includes "artifacts". Not in intent, but in actual publication.


I don't get it. Aren't they free to make any ruling they like if there's a dispute?


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 Werekill wrote:
It's one giant pain in the ass, that's for sure. I'd kill for GW to step up their game here.


Not with veil'ed in lychguard you're not. Hirr hirr.


Problem is, there should have been no dispute. The FAQ is perfectly clear.

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What is the common consensus about running 3 doom scythes. I am thinking of getting 3 to round out my force. Currently I have 1 doomsday ark and 6 destroyers for AT purposes. Getting 2 DDA would probably be better but i dont want a static gunline army.

How strong is the strategem?
   
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A flyer with a minimum move is easily killed by your opponent by simply placing his models in the path of your flyer. He doesnt have to fire a single shot, or make a single melee attack. Your flyer is unable to make its minimum move, or is forced to fly off the table, and is slain. Horde armys are especially good at this. If you lose one flyer you cant use the stratagem anymore.
   
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I'm aiming to try it out in my next game. My only worry is having to think two moves ahead in terms of positioning so I don't fly off the board or get move blocked.

From people I've spoken to who got lucky with it, they talk about it ruining their opponents castles.
   
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dapperbandit wrote:
I'm aiming to try it out in my next game. My only worry is having to think two moves ahead in terms of positioning so I don't fly off the board or get move blocked.

From people I've spoken to who got lucky with it, they talk about it ruining their opponents castles.


I did just that. Got it off two forst turns, decimating two leman russes that the DDAs then finished off, and then tore up three tightly deployed infantry units that the flyer's Teslas then finished.

But the unfortunate one, having experienced this splendor, will just shoot one flyer down next time we play should he go first. -1 to hit does not save it from the entire barrage of a proper gun line.

The flyers themselves did little to no damage with the main cannon. And I was forced to move out of range for a turn due to aforementioned rules.

Also rule of three prevents us from taking 4 of them to increase chance of surviving to play the stratagem
   
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I took it to LVO and have been running triple Doom Scythes since the points drop. If you look on the last page, you'll see a bit more of my take on them. To address a few points, yes you can definitely get zoned out with no where to go with them. It takes careful planning against high model count armies to prevent this. I think in the last 15 games or so, I've had it happen twice. The nice thing is, Necrons can slaughter infantry pretty well, so if you use that to open areas of the board toove to, you are usually ok. Just forcing your opponent to move to try and shut them down is a victory in itself sometimes as they will often neglect other things that they should be watching ( like leaving another area of the board open to veiling in a nasty unit.

Long story short, they are hard to use, but can be very rewarding.

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 Maelstrom808 wrote:
I took it to LVO and have been running triple Doom Scythes since the points drop. If you look on the last page, you'll see a bit more of my take on them. To address a few points, yes you can definitely get zoned out with no where to go with them. It takes careful planning against high model count armies to prevent this. I think in the last 15 games or so, I've had it happen twice. The nice thing is, Necrons can slaughter infantry pretty well, so if you use that to open areas of the board toove to, you are usually ok. Just forcing your opponent to move to try and shut them down is a victory in itself sometimes as they will often neglect other things that they should be watching ( like leaving another area of the board open to veiling in a nasty unit.

Long story short, they are hard to use, but can be very rewarding.


Do you play them in Mephrit or Sautekh ? I'm still undecided on that point and i plan to take 3 for my next game to try them out.

 
   
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Sautehk is arguably the onyl way thanks to a minimuim move + heavy D3 shots weapon.

However, in a game of Stratagem dropping, not actually rolling to hit helps a lot

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Well with Sautekh it's possible to have the Death Ray hit on 2s and get Tesla off on 5+

If you lose one of them and can no longer use the stratagem it'd be nice to still have some effective shooting
   
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 IHateNids wrote:
Sautehk is arguably the onyl way thanks to a minimuim move + heavy D3 shots weapon.

However, in a game of Stratagem dropping, not actually rolling to hit helps a lot


Yeah, playing sautekh is more a "Plan B" thing, but i want to greed and try them in Mephrit for the Tesla Destructors at mid range.

 
   
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Sautekh for sure as I also run a sautekh spearhead of DDAs, so being able to get maximum value out of the Sautekh strat is a nice bonus to ignoring the move penalty on the main gun.

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sacred earth. We have awoken to your primative species and will not tolerate your presence. Ours is the way of logic,
of cold hard reason: your irrationality, your human disease has no place in the necrontyr. Flesh is weak.
Surrender to the machine incarnate. Surrender and die.
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What is "better"

2x10 destroyers and 2 Doomsday arks

Or

6 destroyers
3 doom scythes
1 doomsday ark


I like the flyer models and greatly dislike building the arks. I currently have 6 destroyers amd 1 doomsday ark and am looking to plan out my next purchases.


   
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 Barnie25 wrote:
What is "better"

2x10 destroyers and 2 Doomsday arks

Or

6 destroyers
3 doom scythes
1 doomsday ark


I like the flyer models and greatly dislike building the arks. I currently have 6 destroyers amd 1 doomsday ark and am looking to plan out my next purchases.




What do you mean by 2 x 10 Destroyers? As in 4 units of 5 as you can only have a maximum of 6 Destroyers per Destroyer unit??

In terms of what your asking, I'd personally run;

3 Doomscythes,
2 DDAs,
5-6 Destroyers depending on how many points you have left.

I have a Youtube. Rage Against The Imperium. Here is the link if you are interested - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0WxDMsMyI7WcChiSfApB4Q

Necrons - Legion of The Silent King - [756-809 PL, 15038-16076pts]
Spoiler:

Unbound Army (Faction) (Necrons)
HQ
Anrakyr the Traveller
Catacomb Command Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon, Warscythe - 3
Cryptek
Selections: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light - 2
Cryptek
Selections: Chronometron, Staff of Light - 3
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Staff of Light
Illuminor Szeras
Imotekh the Stormlord
Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Nemesor Zahndrekh
Orikan the Diviner
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Voidscythe
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Warscythe - 3
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Staff of Light
Overlord
Selections: Hyperphase Sword, Resurrection Orb
Trazyn the Infinite
Vargard Obyron

Troops

Immortals
Selections: Gauss Blaster, 15x Immortal
Immortals
Selections: 15x Immortal, Tesla Carbine
Immortals
Necron Warriors
Selections: 100x Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors

Elites

C'tan Shard of the Deceiver
C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer
Canoptek Tomb Stalker
Deathmarks
Selections: 25x Deathmark
Flayed Ones
Selections: 20x Flayed One
Lychguard
Selections: Hyperphase Sword and Dispersion Shield, 10x Lychguard
Lychguard
Selections: 6x Lychguard, Warscythe
Triarch Praetorians
Selections: Rod of Covenant, 10x Triarch Praetorian
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Heat Ray*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Particle Shredder*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon*

Fast Attack

Canoptek Scarabs
Selections: 63x Canoptek Scarab Swarm
Canoptek Scarabs
Canoptek Tomb Sentinel
Canoptek Wraiths
Selections: 3x Canoptek Wraith
Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraith w/ Transdimensional Beamer
Selections: 3x Transdimensional Beamer
6x Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils
Selections: 6x Whip Coils
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Tomb Blades
Selections: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
Two Gauss Blasters - 9
Heavy Support
Annihilation Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon - 3*
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Doomsday Ark
Doomsday Ark
3x Heavy Destroyer
Monolith
Tesseract Ark
Two Tesla Cannons
Selections: 2x Tesla Cannon
Transcendent C'tan

Flyer
Doom Scythe - 4*
Night Scythe - 4*


Dedicated Transport
Ghost Ark - 3*

Lord of War
Gauss Pylon
Obelisk

* - This unit is magnetized so can be either model e.g. Doomscythe or Nightscythe
 
   
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 Odrankt wrote:
 Barnie25 wrote:
What is "better"

2x10 destroyers and 2 Doomsday arks

Or

6 destroyers
3 doom scythes
1 doomsday ark


I like the flyer models and greatly dislike building the arks. I currently have 6 destroyers amd 1 doomsday ark and am looking to plan out my next purchases.




What do you mean by 2 x 10 Destroyers? As in 4 units of 5 as you can only have a maximum of 6 Destroyers per Destroyer unit??

In terms of what your asking, I'd personally run;

3 Doomscythes,
2 DDAs,
5-6 Destroyers depending on how many points you have left.



Haha yeah I meant 2x5 destroyers.

Based on your comments I made the following list:

Spoiler:
+++ 2k (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) +++

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Necrons) ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Dynasty Choice: Dynasty: Sautekh

+ HQ +

Cryptek: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light

Imotekh the Stormlord

+ Troops +

Immortals: 8x Immortal, Tesla Carbine

Immortals: 7x Immortal, Tesla Carbine

Immortals: 7x Immortal, Tesla Carbine

+ Fast Attack +

Canoptek Scarabs: 5x Canoptek Scarab Swarm

Canoptek Wraiths: 6x Canoptek Wraith

Destroyers
. . 6x Destroyer: 6x Gauss Cannon

+ Heavy Support +

Doomsday Ark

Doomsday Ark

++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Necrons) ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Dynasty Choice

+ Flyer +

Doom Scythe

Doom Scythe

Doom Scythe

++ Total: [132 PL, 1998pts] ++

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This would work against most lists right?
   
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Or here's a neat list idea with 3 DDA, 3 Doomscythes.

Spoiler:

Sautekh
1x Imotekh
1x Lord with Staff of Light and Veil

10x Tesla Immortals
10x Tesla Immortals
10x Gauss Immortals

8x Scarabs
9x Tomb Blades with Gauss and Shieldvanes

3x DDA

3x Doomscythe


This feels like it could just be silly against certain lists, especially with the addition of the Veil Lord + Gauss Immortals package.
   
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That is absolutely filthy....

I quickly refined it down to a 1750 version in models I already have, so I may take that in an event upcoming

thanks for the food for thought :p

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 Werekill wrote:
Or here's a neat list idea with 3 DDA, 3 Doomscythes.

Spoiler:

Sautekh
1x Imotekh
1x Lord with Staff of Light and Veil

10x Tesla Immortals
10x Tesla Immortals
10x Gauss Immortals

8x Scarabs
9x Tomb Blades with Gauss and Shieldvanes

3x DDA

3x Doomscythe


This feels like it could just be silly against certain lists, especially with the addition of the Veil Lord + Gauss Immortals package.


I rather like this list as well. Might run this later today! Cheers!

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...
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum. 
   
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Thanks! I'd run it myself if I had two more Scythes.
   
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Do all 3 doom scythes get to roll a d6 for each unit within the range or do you only get to role a single die for all three doom scythes.

   
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 Barnie25 wrote:
Do all 3 doom scythes get to roll a d6 for each unit within the range or do you only get to role a single die for all three doom scythes.



It's 3D3 instead of those three firing their big cannon


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Ok I got the Necro Christmas army box and have assemble just about everything in it except the tomb blades.

I am thinking about going with Sautekh as my army eventually led by Immotek (sp?), with Tesla Immortals maybe a block of warriors with a ghost ark and some doomsday arks, but I’d like to include a unit of tomb blades, how should I build them for a Sautekh list?

From what I have read Sautekh doesn’t help them a whole lot if any, but since I have some I’d like to include them, but I have know idea how to arm them.

Any and all advise is welcome! Thanks in advance.
   
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 Chaplain Pallantide wrote:
Ok I got the Necro Christmas army box and have assemble just about everything in it except the tomb blades.

I am thinking about going with Sautekh as my army eventually led by Immotek (sp?), with Tesla Immortals maybe a block of warriors with a ghost ark and some doomsday arks, but I’d like to include a unit of tomb blades, how should I build them for a Sautekh list?

From what I have read Sautekh doesn’t help them a whole lot if any, but since I have some I’d like to include them, but I have know idea how to arm them.

Any and all advise is welcome! Thanks in advance.


Sautekh can certainly help the blades. They could advance and fire their Gauss blasters, or get access to the +1 strat for 50% damage output on their Teslas.

Build them to compliment the rest of the army and your local meta.
   
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 IHateNids wrote:
That is absolutely filthy....

I quickly refined it down to a 1750 version in models I already have, so I may take that in an event upcoming

thanks for the food for thought :p


If your looking for filth, I usually bring this. A lot of people in my community don't like 8th ed necrons because of me :p

Spoiler:

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Necrons) [91 PL, 1546pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Dynasty Choice: Dynasty: Sautekh

+ HQ +

Cryptek [5 PL, 85pts]: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light, Warlord

Lord [5 PL, 68pts]: Artefact: The Veil of Darkness, Hyperphase Sword

+ Troops +

Immortals [4 PL, 75pts]: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal

Immortals [4 PL, 75pts]: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal

Necron Warriors [12 PL, 165pts]: 15x Necron Warrior

+ Fast Attack +

Tomb Blades [14 PL, 279pts]
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shieldvanes
. . Two Tesla Carbines: 2x Tesla Carbine
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shieldvanes
. . Two Tesla Carbines: 2x Tesla Carbine
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shieldvanes
. . Two Tesla Carbines: 2x Tesla Carbine

Tomb Blades [14 PL, 279pts]
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shieldvanes
. . Two Tesla Carbines: 2x Tesla Carbine
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shieldvanes
. . Two Tesla Carbines: 2x Tesla Carbine
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shieldvanes
. . Two Tesla Carbines: 2x Tesla Carbine

+ Heavy Support +

Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 160pts]

Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 160pts]

Tesseract Ark [13 PL, 200pts]
. Two Gauss Cannons: 2x Gauss Cannon

++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Necrons) [33 PL, 450pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Dynasty Choice: Dynasty: Sautekh

+ Flyer +

Doom Scythe [11 PL, 150pts]

Doom Scythe [11 PL, 150pts]

Doom Scythe [11 PL, 150pts]

++ Total: [124 PL, 1996pts] ++

Idea is to VoD the warrior into a building for +1 save, LosB and to soak some smite or MW DMG. While Warriors are not good for soaking MWs, as long as the unit is alive and RPing back some of all that you lost than they can soak a lot of MW. Depending on RP rolls.

DDAs just camp on backfield objective with the Immortals to kill anything T8. Once anything T8+ is dead than the DDAs move + advance you the field to get into my opponents face and make use of the Gauss arrays.

Mixed TB units run with the sole Cloaktek for 4+ RP, grabbing objectives and making use of both Tesla + Gauss by split firing them on units and making sure the Gauss TBs get RF and Tesla stay back for congoling and holding objectives.

Tark just moved bout the field being annoying to Destroy. I think all lists should run at least 1 Tark.

Doom scythes use gem to go MW in an area concentrated in enemy units. And even if 1 plane die you still have the S10 Deathray meanings you moving he DDAs isnt that bad as you still have 2d3 S10 guns and 2d6 S8 -2 D3 and 1D6 S8 -3 D6 from Tark.



If any questions on why I run certain units than happily ask away.

I have a Youtube. Rage Against The Imperium. Here is the link if you are interested - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0WxDMsMyI7WcChiSfApB4Q

Necrons - Legion of The Silent King - [756-809 PL, 15038-16076pts]
Spoiler:

Unbound Army (Faction) (Necrons)
HQ
Anrakyr the Traveller
Catacomb Command Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon, Warscythe - 3
Cryptek
Selections: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light - 2
Cryptek
Selections: Chronometron, Staff of Light - 3
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Staff of Light
Illuminor Szeras
Imotekh the Stormlord
Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Nemesor Zahndrekh
Orikan the Diviner
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Voidscythe
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Warscythe - 3
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Staff of Light
Overlord
Selections: Hyperphase Sword, Resurrection Orb
Trazyn the Infinite
Vargard Obyron

Troops

Immortals
Selections: Gauss Blaster, 15x Immortal
Immortals
Selections: 15x Immortal, Tesla Carbine
Immortals
Necron Warriors
Selections: 100x Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors

Elites

C'tan Shard of the Deceiver
C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer
Canoptek Tomb Stalker
Deathmarks
Selections: 25x Deathmark
Flayed Ones
Selections: 20x Flayed One
Lychguard
Selections: Hyperphase Sword and Dispersion Shield, 10x Lychguard
Lychguard
Selections: 6x Lychguard, Warscythe
Triarch Praetorians
Selections: Rod of Covenant, 10x Triarch Praetorian
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Heat Ray*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Particle Shredder*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon*

Fast Attack

Canoptek Scarabs
Selections: 63x Canoptek Scarab Swarm
Canoptek Scarabs
Canoptek Tomb Sentinel
Canoptek Wraiths
Selections: 3x Canoptek Wraith
Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraith w/ Transdimensional Beamer
Selections: 3x Transdimensional Beamer
6x Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils
Selections: 6x Whip Coils
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Tomb Blades
Selections: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
Two Gauss Blasters - 9
Heavy Support
Annihilation Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon - 3*
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Doomsday Ark
Doomsday Ark
3x Heavy Destroyer
Monolith
Tesseract Ark
Two Tesla Cannons
Selections: 2x Tesla Cannon
Transcendent C'tan

Flyer
Doom Scythe - 4*
Night Scythe - 4*


Dedicated Transport
Ghost Ark - 3*

Lord of War
Gauss Pylon
Obelisk

* - This unit is magnetized so can be either model e.g. Doomscythe or Nightscythe
 
   
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 Odrankt wrote:
 IHateNids wrote:
That is absolutely filthy....

I quickly refined it down to a 1750 version in models I already have, so I may take that in an event upcoming

thanks for the food for thought :p


If your looking for filth, I usually bring this. A lot of people in my community don't like 8th ed necrons because of me :p

Spoiler:

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Necrons) [91 PL, 1546pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Dynasty Choice: Dynasty: Sautekh

+ HQ +

Cryptek [5 PL, 85pts]: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light, Warlord

Lord [5 PL, 68pts]: Artefact: The Veil of Darkness, Hyperphase Sword

+ Troops +

Immortals [4 PL, 75pts]: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal

Immortals [4 PL, 75pts]: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal

Necron Warriors [12 PL, 165pts]: 15x Necron Warrior

+ Fast Attack +

Tomb Blades [14 PL, 279pts]
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shieldvanes
. . Two Tesla Carbines: 2x Tesla Carbine
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shieldvanes
. . Two Tesla Carbines: 2x Tesla Carbine
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shieldvanes
. . Two Tesla Carbines: 2x Tesla Carbine

Tomb Blades [14 PL, 279pts]
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
. . Two Gauss Blasters: 2x Gauss Blaster
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shieldvanes
. . Two Tesla Carbines: 2x Tesla Carbine
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shieldvanes
. . Two Tesla Carbines: 2x Tesla Carbine
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shieldvanes
. . Two Tesla Carbines: 2x Tesla Carbine

+ Heavy Support +

Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 160pts]

Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 160pts]

Tesseract Ark [13 PL, 200pts]
. Two Gauss Cannons: 2x Gauss Cannon

++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Necrons) [33 PL, 450pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Dynasty Choice: Dynasty: Sautekh

+ Flyer +

Doom Scythe [11 PL, 150pts]

Doom Scythe [11 PL, 150pts]

Doom Scythe [11 PL, 150pts]

++ Total: [124 PL, 1996pts] ++

Idea is to VoD the warrior into a building for +1 save, LosB and to soak some smite or MW DMG. While Warriors are not good for soaking MWs, as long as the unit is alive and RPing back some of all that you lost than they can soak a lot of MW. Depending on RP rolls.

DDAs just camp on backfield objective with the Immortals to kill anything T8. Once anything T8+ is dead than the DDAs move + advance you the field to get into my opponents face and make use of the Gauss arrays.

Mixed TB units run with the sole Cloaktek for 4+ RP, grabbing objectives and making use of both Tesla + Gauss by split firing them on units and making sure the Gauss TBs get RF and Tesla stay back for congoling and holding objectives.

Tark just moved bout the field being annoying to Destroy. I think all lists should run at least 1 Tark.

Doom scythes use gem to go MW in an area concentrated in enemy units. And even if 1 plane die you still have the S10 Deathray meanings you moving he DDAs isnt that bad as you still have 2d3 S10 guns and 2d6 S8 -2 D3 and 1D6 S8 -3 D6 from Tark.



If any questions on why I run certain units than happily ask away.


How do you handle the assault phase with this list? If they use tactics such as reserves to deny shooting opportunities I like the list but it doesn't use the assault phase. However I really like the mobility of your list and I haven't look at the forgeworld units yet but right now I am impressed with what I am reading! What are the best forgeworld units?

   
 
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