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Safe to say those "leaks" were fake based on this preview, too many names don't line up and they described the roles of several models which don't fit the leaked rules.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/13/warhammer-40000-preview-whats-in-the-boxgw-homepage-post-1/

Good, because they were meh.

Excited to see what all this new stuff does (also that Overlord is confirmed to be rocking a Tachyon arrow.

IanVanCheese wrote:
Safe to say those "leaks" were fake based on this preview, too many names don't line up and they described the roles of several models which don't fit the leaked rules.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/13/warhammer-40000-preview-whats-in-the-boxgw-homepage-post-1/

Good, because they were meh.

Excited to see what all this new stuff does (also that Overlord is confirmed to be rocking a Tachyon arrow.

I couldn't agree more with you, so glad the leaks were fake as it was so underwhelming

Oh man I’m keen. Anyone else legitimately creaming their pants over these new Necrons?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/13/warhammer-40000-preview-beyond-the-boxgw-homepage-post-2/ More goodies for us here.

Congrats to whoever said that the Lokhust Heavy Destroyer was rocking an Emnitic gun, you were correct. Dual weapon options.

Canoptek Doomstalker rocking a Doomsday Blaster with dual fire modes for moving vs staying still.

Also as an aside, I love the big dumb block aesthetic of the marine buggy.

Hmm, the leaks did call the second weapon option for the Warriors Gauss Reapers. So he may be somewhat in the know, or just made a lucky guess.

The Tomb Stalkers he also mentioned may not be the big dude, but the cheeky bugger in the background of the big image. So the only dude he named wrong is the Royal Warden.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Oh man I’m keen. Anyone else legitimately creaming their pants over these new Necrons?

They're awesome No idea if I'm ever going to take them into battle but I'm going to get the box for the marine part anyway and these space robots look too good to sell off.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Hmm, the leaks did call the second weapon option for the Warriors Gauss Reapers. So he may be somewhat in the know, or just made a lucky guess.

The Tomb Stalkers he also mentioned may not be the big dude, but the cheeky bugger in the background of the big image. So the only dude he named wrong is the Royal Warden.

Pretty sure they named them in the initial reveal with the cgi trailer, during the stream.

Ah you are correct. Okay I have more hope again then that the “leaks“ are false. I too thought they were pretty lame and boring so that’s good.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Ah you are correct. Okay I have more hope again then that the “leaks“ are false. I too thought they were pretty lame and boring so that’s good.

Yeah, it definitely looks like who ever made the "leak" compiled every piece of info we already had and then added his own rules as it would make them look more authentic

After seeing the last couple of PA books I’m really keen to see ours and what kind of strats and relics we get.

With the new Terrain Rules in mind, isn't our Monolith >5"?

sieGermans wrote:
With the new Terrain Rules in mind, isn't our Monolith >5"?

Yeah it is bigger than 5", but that's not how the rule works.

The building needs to be taller than 5", not the unit being hidden. Monolith won't be able to hide behind obscured terrain though, it has over 16 wounds. Hopefully it'll be tough enough that it won't need to.

IanVanCheese wrote:

sieGermans wrote:
With the new Terrain Rules in mind, isn't our Monolith >5"?

Yeah it is bigger than 5", but that's not how the rule works.

The building needs to be taller than 5", not the unit being hidden. Monolith won't be able to hide behind obscured terrain though, it has over 16 wounds. Hopefully it'll be tough enough that it won't need to.

I was thinking more about expanded covering capabilities that he Monolith can confer now. Historically it could only block true-LOS or else there was 0 effect.

sieGermans wrote:

IanVanCheese wrote:

sieGermans wrote:
With the new Terrain Rules in mind, isn't our Monolith >5"?

Yeah it is bigger than 5", but that's not how the rule works.

The building needs to be taller than 5", not the unit being hidden. Monolith won't be able to hide behind obscured terrain though, it has over 16 wounds. Hopefully it'll be tough enough that it won't need to.

I was thinking more about expanded covering capabilities that he Monolith can confer now. Historically it could only block true-LOS or else there was 0 effect.

Yeah but the obscuring rules only applies to buildings, not vehicles. It doesn't instantly block LOS because it's taller than 5". It'll be interesting to see how it's modeled with regards to LOS under it. Technically it's a flying unit, so you can always see under it, but given how low it sits, that's dumb as hell.

Technically it can fly as high as it wants though: as a flying vehicle, it can "fly" into melee with other flyers.

 Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll wrote:
Technically it can fly as high as it wants though: as a flying vehicle, it can "fly" into melee with other flyers.

A Monolith charging a plane, now that would be a sight for sore eyes

torblind wrote:

 Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll wrote:
Technically it can fly as high as it wants though: as a flying vehicle, it can "fly" into melee with other flyers.

A Monolith charging a plane, now that would be a sight for sore eyes

I have felt that all vehicles should get a “rigged to blow” ability.

sieGermans wrote:

I was thinking more about expanded covering capabilities that he Monolith can confer now. Historically it could only block true-LOS or else there was 0 effect.

I would love to see necron player trying to convince opponent that obscured terrain trait applies to monolith. It's not even trait that applies to every terrain piece but rather to those defined as such by players.

tneva82 wrote:

sieGermans wrote:

I was thinking more about expanded covering capabilities that he Monolith can confer now. Historically it could only block true-LOS or else there was 0 effect.

I would love to see necron player trying to convince opponent that obscured terrain trait applies to monolith. It's not even trait that applies to every terrain piece but rather to those defined as such by players.

I don't think "convince" is the right word here (unless that's how you play--no judgment).

I think it's more about trying to clarify, given the new rules around obscuring/LoS, how to treat large models and infantry hiding/stuck 'behind' them. Particularly in Casual games where some degree of reasonableness is mutually applied to all the game decisions and interactions.

Rules for the Canoptek Reanimator, taken from the WHC site:

 Mixzremixzd wrote:
Rules for the Canoptek Reanimator, taken from the WHC site:

Excellent start. Buffs to RP with a chunky aura which means you should still be able to hide him behind terrain. Also the wording makes me think maybe RP won't be limited to a single phase. maybe res orbs or something can be triggered later in the turn?

Excitement levels be rising.

IanVanCheese wrote:

 Mixzremixzd wrote:
Rules for the Canoptek Reanimator, taken from the WHC site:

Excellent start. Buffs to RP with a chunky aura which means you should still be able to hide him behind terrain. Also the wording makes me think maybe RP won't be limited to a single phase. maybe res orbs or something can be triggered later in the turn?

Excitement levels be rising.

It's not an Aura. (Well, given GW's poor writing, it might count as one, but...)

It targets a single unit.

 JNAProductions wrote:

IanVanCheese wrote:

 Mixzremixzd wrote:
Rules for the Canoptek Reanimator, taken from the WHC site:

Excellent start. Buffs to RP with a chunky aura which means you should still be able to hide him behind terrain. Also the wording makes me think maybe RP won't be limited to a single phase. maybe res orbs or something can be triggered later in the turn?

Excitement levels be rising.

It's not an Aura. (Well, given GW's poor writing, it might count as one, but...)

It targets a single unit.

yeah but you know what I mean, it has a decent range is the important thing. I'm glad it's not an aura tbh, they're restrictive and force boring play generally. 9" but you gotta pick a unit is a great tool that still leaves some tactical choice in who you buff.

At any rate, this is a good sign. Sensible rule that is a. looks good and b. not overpowered.

Edit: also, the wording of this does imply some changes to RP. It says "until the beginning of your next command phase" and mentions "while he is within 9". Both of these imply that it doesn't happen during the command phase/beginning of movement phase like it currently does.

 JNAProductions wrote:
It's not an Aura. (Well, given GW's poor writing, it might count as one, but...)

It targets a single unit.

Unless the aura ability definition changes in 9th, its an aura ability.

Aura Abilities
Some units – usually
Characters – have
abilities that affect certain
models within a given
range.

I wonder how many points this reanimator will be. Usually those repair/heal/ressurect units arent worth their points. Like the canoptek spyder is useless for spawning scarabs. Just bring more scarabs, instead of the spider.

A couple of people are guessing that it could be the beginning of a lot of auras being culled and made to unit targeting instead. Would be a pretty welcome change imo. Some things could stay as auras, to show significance and leadership. But a lot of auras being made to unit targeting would help cut down castles dramatically and make things more tactical.

Of course, this guess is based purely on a single rule so honestly nothing is pointing to this yet. But is a nice thought.

Yeah, I'm hoping either it's a widespread downscale of auras, or else it's because RP is being made stronger, so the units that buff it need to kept in check.

IanVanCheese wrote:
Yeah, I'm hoping either it's a widespread downscale of auras, or else it's because RP is being made stronger, so the units that buff it need to kept in check.

Both would be very nice.

The Obscuring rule ist rly badly written...
A model on a piece of terrain with obscuring can be targetted. But it can't target anything. Cause to target anything it has to shoot over/through a Terrain with obscuring. The one or Stands on...

New info up on community https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/15/faction-focus-necronsgw-homepage-post-4/

Death ray is blast.



and here's the reaper

IanVanCheese wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:

IanVanCheese wrote:

 Mixzremixzd wrote:
Rules for the Canoptek Reanimator, taken from the WHC site:

Excellent start. Buffs to RP with a chunky aura which means you should still be able to hide him behind terrain. Also the wording makes me think maybe RP won't be limited to a single phase. maybe res orbs or something can be triggered later in the turn?

Excitement levels be rising.

It's not an Aura. (Well, given GW's poor writing, it might count as one, but...)

It targets a single unit.

yeah but you know what I mean, it has a decent range is the important thing. I'm glad it's not an aura tbh, they're restrictive and force boring play generally. 9" but you gotta pick a unit is a great tool that still leaves some tactical choice in who you buff.

At any rate, this is a good sign. Sensible rule that is a. looks good and b. not overpowered.

Edit: also, the wording of this does imply some changes to RP. It says "until the beginning of your next command phase" and mentions "while he is within 9". Both of these imply that it doesn't happen during the command phase/beginning of movement phase like it currently does.

The wording on this doesn’t seem to bar stacking the +1s?


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 MannyMcCoconut wrote:
New info up on community https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/15/faction-focus-necronsgw-homepage-post-4/

Death ray is blast.



and here's the reaper

These Reapers do look great! Pretty sure putting it on a Mephrit model (which they suggested in the article) would be inefficient, however.