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Neb wrote:

It's a little gimmicky/situational, but I've been toying with the idea of Canoptek Reanimator + Repair Subroutines... Nothing in the Reanimator's datasheet specifies the target unit needs to actually have Reanimation Protocols.

What are you talking about ? Do you want to use repair subroutines on the reanimator and make it reanimate itself ? You cant do that. A unit which has been removed from the battlefield cannot roll for RP.

 p5freak wrote:

Neb wrote:

It's a little gimmicky/situational, but I've been toying with the idea of Canoptek Reanimator + Repair Subroutines... Nothing in the Reanimator's datasheet specifies the target unit needs to actually have Reanimation Protocols.

What are you talking about ? Do you want to use repair subroutines on the reanimator and make it reanimate itself ? You cant do that. A unit which has been removed from the battlefield cannot roll for RP.

Umm.. he wants to reanimate wraiths? Or scarabs even. Or Acanthrites, who knows, but something Canoptek. Should be a perfectly fine thing to do.

torblind wrote:

 p5freak wrote:

Neb wrote:

It's a little gimmicky/situational, but I've been toying with the idea of Canoptek Reanimator + Repair Subroutines... Nothing in the Reanimator's datasheet specifies the target unit needs to actually have Reanimation Protocols.

What are you talking about ? Do you want to use repair subroutines on the reanimator and make it reanimate itself ? You cant do that. A unit which has been removed from the battlefield cannot roll for RP.

Umm.. he wants to reanimate wraiths? Or scarabs even. Or Acanthrites, who knows, but something Canoptek. Should be a perfectly fine thing to do.

Yes, thats fine. But i wouldnt use a reanimator for that. A cryptek can do the same, and cant be targeted.

I fought orks yesterday. Their buggies cost the same but the damage output is insane. Specially with the custom jobs. And the jump buggie is insane. Hitting on 4s with dakkadakka rule and a reroll to hit and wound from his deathskull rule...
Compare that with our reanimator.... urgh why GW

Had a game yesterday, chill lists, nothing competitive but I used to new Nihilakh rules (everyone ob sec, ignore ap-1 in own deployment zone) and oh boy, it's strong. Seeing a lot of newly painted Nihilkah crons on Reddit and I feel like people have accidentally made a very smart choice lol.

10 Shieldguard sat on a mid-field objective, wraiths went up and stole another. Making units that are that hard to kill ob sec is gross. Reanimator got smoked, he really is terrain dependent, which isn't great for his cost. Skorpekh Lord was OK, but 4 attacks is still underwhelming.

Gonna test out new Sautekh next game.

So if you hide your cryptothralls well enough you could have a pyromancer right out in the open and completely untargetable to shooting attacks? Could provide a nice annoyance.

IanVanCheese wrote:
Had a game yesterday, chill lists, nothing competitive but I used to new Nihilakh rules (everyone ob sec, ignore ap-1 in own deployment zone) and oh boy, it's strong. Seeing a lot of newly painted Nihilkah crons on Reddit and I feel like people have accidentally made a very smart choice lol.

10 Shieldguard sat on a mid-field objective, wraiths went up and stole another. Making units that are that hard to kill ob sec is gross. Reanimator got smoked, he really is terrain dependent, which isn't great for his cost. Skorpekh Lord was OK, but 4 attacks is still underwhelming.

Gonna test out new Sautekh next game.

Seeing how GW has been stomping away 2++ and 3++ I wouldn't count on keeping 2++ either. Even lychguard stratagem could change.

That's why just taking leaks is risky. You can play them but you are missing all other changes and now of course 1/3 of dynasty code itself.

(not to mention lychguard and wraiths could get price hike)

tneva82 wrote:

IanVanCheese wrote:
Had a game yesterday, chill lists, nothing competitive but I used to new Nihilakh rules (everyone ob sec, ignore ap-1 in own deployment zone) and oh boy, it's strong. Seeing a lot of newly painted Nihilkah crons on Reddit and I feel like people have accidentally made a very smart choice lol.

10 Shieldguard sat on a mid-field objective, wraiths went up and stole another. Making units that are that hard to kill ob sec is gross. Reanimator got smoked, he really is terrain dependent, which isn't great for his cost. Skorpekh Lord was OK, but 4 attacks is still underwhelming.

Gonna test out new Sautekh next game.

Seeing how GW has been stomping away 2++ and 3++ I wouldn't count on keeping 2++ either. Even lychguard stratagem could change.

That's why just taking leaks is risky. You can play them but you are missing all other changes and now of course 1/3 of dynasty code itself.

(not to mention lychguard and wraiths could get price hike)

Oh yeah of course, I'm just messing about with the models I have. Not investing in anything until the new book arrives (unless I just love the model). A lot will change, but it's just casual games and it's better than using our current, boring ass dynasty traits. I agree that Reclaim a Lost Empire is almost certainly getting nerfed/eliminated. It'll be changed to just armour saves I reckon, or maybe even to shrugging Ap-2 to tie in with the new Nihilakh trait. That'd be tasty on warrior blobs.

The main thing I've taken away from it is that speed and roadblocks are important. if you can stall their main force, while moving another section of yours up the board, you'll have some major board control. Oh, and scarabs are the absolute bomb.

 p5freak wrote:

torblind wrote:


Umm.. he wants to reanimate wraiths? Or scarabs even. Or Acanthrites, who knows, but something Canoptek. Should be a perfectly fine thing to do.

Yes, thats fine. But i wouldnt use a reanimator for that. A cryptek can do the same, and cant be targeted.

Yea I was thinking wraiths, not as something to build a list around though, just toying with additional uses for the Reanimator in general. The benefit to the Reanimator over the Cryptek is the 9" range on the ability. Was thinking it'd be brought primarily for warriors or something but pop off the boost to a squad of wraiths if they start getting low.

IanVanCheese wrote:
Had a game yesterday, chill lists, nothing competitive but I used to new Nihilakh rules (everyone ob sec, ignore ap-1 in own deployment zone) and oh boy, it's strong. Seeing a lot of newly painted Nihilkah crons on Reddit and I feel like people have accidentally made a very smart choice lol.

10 Shieldguard sat on a mid-field objective, wraiths went up and stole another. Making units that are that hard to kill ob sec is gross. Reanimator got smoked, he really is terrain dependent, which isn't great for his cost. Skorpekh Lord was OK, but 4 attacks is still underwhelming.

Gonna test out new Sautekh next game.

So everyone is sure these leaked rules are 100% true and not a fake?
No one seems to add salt at these rules. Where are they coming from?

Krull wrote:

IanVanCheese wrote:
Had a game yesterday, chill lists, nothing competitive but I used to new Nihilakh rules (everyone ob sec, ignore ap-1 in own deployment zone) and oh boy, it's strong. Seeing a lot of newly painted Nihilkah crons on Reddit and I feel like people have accidentally made a very smart choice lol.

10 Shieldguard sat on a mid-field objective, wraiths went up and stole another. Making units that are that hard to kill ob sec is gross. Reanimator got smoked, he really is terrain dependent, which isn't great for his cost. Skorpekh Lord was OK, but 4 attacks is still underwhelming.

Gonna test out new Sautekh next game.

So everyone is sure these leaked rules are 100% true and not a fake?
No one seems to add salt at these rules. Where are they coming from?

They're from the Codex Preview that GW did. Someone screen-shot the 2 dynasty pages while they were on screen and cleaned up the image enough to transcribe the text.

Krull wrote:

IanVanCheese wrote:
Had a game yesterday, chill lists, nothing competitive but I used to new Nihilakh rules (everyone ob sec, ignore ap-1 in own deployment zone) and oh boy, it's strong. Seeing a lot of newly painted Nihilkah crons on Reddit and I feel like people have accidentally made a very smart choice lol.

10 Shieldguard sat on a mid-field objective, wraiths went up and stole another. Making units that are that hard to kill ob sec is gross. Reanimator got smoked, he really is terrain dependent, which isn't great for his cost. Skorpekh Lord was OK, but 4 attacks is still underwhelming.

Gonna test out new Sautekh next game.

So everyone is sure these leaked rules are 100% true and not a fake?
No one seems to add salt at these rules. Where are they coming from?

Hard to put salt on rules shown on　gw's　twitch stream when they previewed what comes ahead last month they　showed pages of new codex while talking about it. So it's pretty safe　to say it's valid.

I feel like there needs to be a 9th edition thread at this point.

 Red Corsair wrote:
I feel like there needs to be a 9th edition thread at this point.

Nah, we've only got scraps at the moment. Let's kick it off properly when the new book rocks up.

IanVanCheese wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
I feel like there needs to be a 9th edition thread at this point.

Nah, we've only got scraps at the moment. Let's kick it off properly when the new book rocks up.

There likely won't be large Tactica threads like there used to be

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/788821.page

torblind wrote:

IanVanCheese wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
I feel like there needs to be a 9th edition thread at this point.

Nah, we've only got scraps at the moment. Let's kick it off properly when the new book rocks up.

There likely won't be large Tactica threads like there used to be

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/788821.page

I get what they are trying to do but its kind of redundant. As more and more threads get created the old threads will get lost under the mountain of new threads so it won't fix the problem then want to and they'll end up back at square 1

Think about it with every leak we've had people have asked new questions on here. So when everyone has a new codex it'll be so many new threads that I wouldn't be surprised if threads get duplicated for example " best Dynasty for necron warriors" "what dynasty should I take for a silver tide list" so someone might be asking the same thing but in a different way

At least this way if 2 questions get asked its in the same thread and not creating more threads

 Red Corsair wrote:
I feel like there needs to be a 9th edition thread at this point.

I think you'd end up with 3 months of pages filled with stop-gap tactics until the codex dropped, which is probably the best time to start new threads.

Yeah I'm not a fan of the new tactics thread thing they're looking at doing for 9th. It's just gonna be a million threads with 3 posts in.

I like the big chunky tactics thread.

torblind wrote:

IanVanCheese wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
I feel like there needs to be a 9th edition thread at this point.

Nah, we've only got scraps at the moment. Let's kick it off properly when the new book rocks up.

There likely won't be large Tactica threads like there used to be

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/788821.page

Check nuts&bolts section. Seems they have basically given up on the idea and are thinking alternative.

Leaks out for Heavy Destoyers


I'm sure someone will post the pics on reddit soon. At work so I can't save and upload as easily.

Hi people ! I was wondering what was your take on necron warriors with the new blast weapons rules. Should we only take the minimum unit of 10 or even altogther take necron warriors ?

weaver9 wrote:
Leaks out for Heavy Destoyers

Spoiler:

Two gun variants, both 36"
Variant 1
Heavy 1, S10, Ap-4, d3d3

Varient 2
Heavy 3d3, s7, Ap -1, d1

M8, ws/bs 3+, s4, t5, w4, a2, ld10

4power rating

I'm sure someone will post the pics on reddit soon. At work so I can't save and upload as easily.

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Good god above can we PLEASE get a gun that has high numbers of shots, ap-1, and TWO damage? ugh

3d3 damage sounds pretty good to me

I'm whelmed.

Comparison to the new Primaris stuff keeps being mindboggling.

Acehilator wrote:
I'm whelmed.

Comparison to the new Primaris stuff keeps being mindboggling.

130 points for the Doomstalker seems pretty good to me.

Doomstalker seems solid at 130pts.

Lokhust with Gauss could be interesting, but the Enmitic gun is disappointing. Was hoping for flat 2 or D3 damage.

Doomstalker may end up replacing Doomsday Arks for me. 4+ BS is booo, but no degrading is yay. 5++ vs Quantum Shielding is kinda even.

Assuming it will get caught, but neither the Doomsday Blaster or Enmitic Exterminator are blast. Weird considering the Doomsday Cannon and Enmitic Annihilator are.

doomstalker seems decent at 130points. Current doomsday firepower on the cheap. I wonder if this means the doomsday ark gun is changing to be more powerful to avoid them having nigh identical profiles.

Lokust with Gauss seems solid. Very much a pure anti-tank weapon, 3D3 damage is no joke.

Asymmetric wrote:
doomstalker seems decent at 130points. Current doomsday firepower on the cheap. I wonder if this means the doomsday ark gun is changing to be more powerful to avoid them having nigh identical profiles.

Lokust with Gauss seems solid. Very much a pure anti-tank weapon, 3D3 damage is no joke.

It's true, I just worry about their survivability. At 70pts a pop, they're gonna need some way to stay alive. Here's hoping for that jump shoot jump strat.

Doomstalker means I get to keep my 3 doomsday cannons, but I save 150pts on current Doomsday Arks. I'll take that.

You do lose out on range though, but with the smaller table sizes that's not going to matter much.

I hope Doomsday Cannons get more than just the extra 24" range. Maybe they'll get a strength increase or something.