Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]

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**Acehilator**

The Silent King has both the <Szarekhan> and <Dynastic Agent> keyword, so he does not break detachments, and gives you access to the Szarekhan exclusive stratagem (which is pants, but hey).

**Virules**

You guys are right, there is literally no downside to taking him with any combination of dynasties given that he has the Dynastic Agent keyword and all his special rules affect everyone.

**Punisher**

So reading the res.orb rules.. are we going to have to keep track of models that are destroyed from fleeing or will those models be eligible to reanimate with the res.orb?

This was always the worst part of house keeping in the codex in previous editions, hopefully it works that you can reanimate them cause otherwise I think that's the final nail in the coffin for the res.orb for me, I'm not going to track which models flee from morale I'll just not take the orb..

Anyone else confused by the point cost for the Command Barge?
It comes equipped with a gauss cannon and a staff of light with an option to replace the gauss with tesla. But in the point cost page there is a unit cost and then a gauss cannon cost but no cost described for the tesla cannon.. So I don't understand, I think there is a typo somewhere either the point cost page should have the tesla cannon as the weapon that costs more or the tesla cannon should be the standard equipped weapon on the barge..

**AverageBoss**

They really handed out RP to everything didnt they?

Wraiths, Scarabs, Spyders, all have it.

Spyders can literally never succeed on it (given they will roll at most 2 dice and need 6 successes).

Makes me wonder if RP was changed fairly last minute from something else.

**wuestenfux**

AverageBoss wrote:
They really handed out RP to everything didnt they?

Wraiths, Scarabs, Spyders, all have it.

Spyders can literally never succeed on it (given they will roll at most 2 dice and need 6 successes).

Makes me wonder if RP was changed fairly last minute from something else.

RP is great for single-wound models but terrible for multi-wound models.
This seemed to be the premise GW was using to develop this protocol.

**Tiberius501**

I don’t mind it personally, it was pretty obnoxious before returning multi wound models as easily as 1 wound models. As long as they’ve been priced right then it should be fine and probably more of an enjoyable time for our opponents.

**Claas**

I see we have an option in the Cryptek artifacts to give rites of reanimation to canopteks, destroyer cult and Praetorian.

**wuestenfux**

A major issue will be synergies.
Do we have some synergies to make some units work even if they don't look that good on paper?

**Twilight Pathways**

AverageBoss wrote:

Spyders can literally never succeed on it (given they will roll at most 2 dice and need 6 successes).

Not true, you roll dice equivalent to their wounds, so each dead Spyder rolls 6 dice. Still astronomically unlikely to get one back, but not impossible.

**vipoid**

Claas wrote:
I see we have an option in the Cryptek artifacts to give rites of reanimation to canopteks, destroyer cult and Praetorian.

Which would be great if it wasn't limited to one-use-per-game.

Because apparently it's easier to reassemble SM Terminators than Necrons.

**dan2026**

How do 3 Monolths teleporting onto objectives with the Eternal Conquerors (Objective Secured)
custom dynasty sound?

1080 points of ridiculousness?

**IHateNids**

Given they're LoW, I'd be lying if I said I hadn't considered 2 Monoliths and a Seraptekh in a Superheavy Detachment

**p5freak**

dan2026 wrote:
How do 3 Monolths teleporting onto objectives with the Eternal Conquerors (Objective Secured)
custom dynasty sound?

1080 points of ridiculousness?

They are still only one obsec model each. Your opponent can easily deny you a marker by moving one obsec model, and another model there. But, how big is a monolith ? Is its footprint big enough to cover the entire marker ? Will it still have a base ? If yes, can you move under the monolith with a base from another model, to get to the marker ?

**Tiberius501**

Could you do 2 monoliths and the Silent King?

**p5freak**

You could, but its a stupid idea. You would need two SHAUX detachments, which costs you 6 CP.

**Moosatronic Warrior**

On the subject of Monoliths, it is now possible to have 3 units "disembark" from one per turn.
One from its Eternity Gate.
One from the Dimensional Corridor strat.
One from the Prismatic Dimensional Breach strat.

The eternity gate seems to be the worst of these options as it requires the monolith to remain stationary, and can't be used the turn it comes from reserve. It is free though.

Dimensional Corridor remains great as you don't have to have kept a unit in reserve, although you now have to be 9" away from enemies.

Prismatic Dimensional Breach is a brokenly good strat imo. You have to have a unit in reserve, but there is no 9" limit.

I'll be trying a deep striking monolith coming in turn 2, using DC and PDB to bring two units out, then Veil of Darknessing a HQ + 3rd unit over. Surprise!

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p5freak wrote:
You could, but its a stupid idea. You would need two SHAUX detachments, which costs you 6 CP.

Wouldn't it just be one super heavy detachment? Still costing 6CP though (but you get 3 back from TSK). The monoliths could get dynasty traits and command protocols.

**tneva82**

p5freak wrote:
You could, but its a stupid idea. You would need two SHAUX detachments, which costs you 6 CP.

2 monolith, silent king. All are low. You don't have to take sk　in supreme commander det.

**Tiberius501**

Yeah can’t you take SK and 2 Monoliths in a LoW detachment?

**p5freak**

Sorry, of course, the SK is a LOW. Yes, you can do that for 6 CP.

**Vineheart01**

Superheavy still refunds that CP if your warlord is in there so you'd only be out 2-3CP for the other detachment you brought to finish up your list.
They had to include superheavy detachments in the refund rule because otherwise knights would be sitting at -6CP permanently, which would be disgustingly unfair lol

And SK HAS to be your warlord if you bring him. He's the King after all.
(kinda funny they didnt do that with Ghaz now that i think about it)

Worth noting that SK is a Dynastic Agent, he doesnt benefit from his own Code since Agents dont get Codes. Also means that you are free to bring him (via Supreme Command detachment) in any dynasty w/o losing protocols.

**Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll**

One issue with Monoliths: they give away 10VP if you lose one, 15 if you lose two. (Titanic keyword

) I know they got 4 more wounds, but did they get any other durability buffs to avoid them crumpling?

**Vineheart01** · its 10/12/15. For some reason the 2nd kill is only worth 2 pts lol

its 10/12/15.
For some reason the 2nd kill is only worth 2 pts lol

**Red Corsair**

p5freak wrote:
dan2026 wrote:
How do 3 Monolths teleporting onto objectives with the Eternal Conquerors (Objective Secured)
custom dynasty sound?

1080 points of ridiculousness?

They are still only one obsec model each. Your opponent can easily deny you a marker by moving one obsec model, and another model there. But, how big is a monolith ? Is its footprint big enough to cover the entire marker ? Will it still have a base ? If yes, can you move under the monolith with a base from another model, to get to the marker ?

The monolith doesnt even need obsec if it's big enough. Just land on the objective and there might be no way to get within 3 without killing it first.

**Vineheart01**

Even if the Monolith was a FLYER you couldnt move under it to sneak the objective as even FLYERs deny you from standing where they are, you can just move through them freely.

Not sure on exact dimenstions but the monolith does feel large enough to completely cover the 3" bubble for the objective.

**IHateNids**

The old one was a 7" square, so they could manage. I see no reason the new one would be smaller....

**dan2026**

Also once the Monolith is squatting on the objective, you could then start teleporting in Warriors to support it.

Is there a limit in 9th as to how much can be held in reserve?

**p5freak**

Vineheart01 wrote:
Even if the Monolith was a FLYER you couldnt move under it to sneak the objective as even FLYERs deny you from standing where they are, you can just move through them freely.

I guess you mean AIRCRAFT ? You can stand under the wing of an AIRCRAFT just fine when the model fits, and its outside of engagement range. The base matters.

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dan2026 wrote:
Also once the Monolith is squatting on the objective, you could then start teleporting in Warriors to support it.

Is there a limit in 9th as to how much can be held in reserve?

Of course there is in matched play, its 50%. Unless you play SM with a drop pod army, then its 100%.

**Tiberius501**

Wait so, are we saying monoliths may actually be useful?

**dan2026**

Tiberius501 wrote:
Wait so, are we saying monoliths may actually be useful?

I mean moving a 24 wound, T8, 2+ save, regen 1 wound per turn brick off an objective, isn't going to be easy.
And that's before you get to the fact that its bristling with guns, can muder you in combat and can teleport in Warriors to back it up.

**vipoid**

Out of interest, are you guys looking at Flayers or Reapers on Warriors?

If it matters, I'm thinking specifically for footslogging Warriors - no Ghost Arks!