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 DaveC wrote:

 sphynx wrote:
These look fantastic. Finally someone else making 28mm heroic horses. And fingers eternally crossed for some Bretonnian Grail Knight / Arthurian style cavalry replacements...

They already have them and Pegasus Knights

https://fireforge-games.com/fantasy-knights/252-albion-s-knights.html

It would be nice to see a comparison picture with the Northern Cavalry

Unfortunately IIRC the Albion Knights are just a conversion set for their historical Knights, so while they're OK if you plan to construct your whole army from historicals and don't really care about scale otherwise, if you like your models to remain consistent across armies or you have existing heroic fantasy models, IMO they don't fit as well. That said, I doubt we're going to get direct analogues for WHF, which is a shame, but I can understand why they'd want to give the impression that they intend these to be more than just proxies for a "dead" game, even if that's how most of us will end up using them.

Samko wrote:
The peasants looks great, but what are the many uses that you all have for them, RPG and ?

historical wargames like Art de la Guerre to do mob infantry units, 9th Age to do pilgrims or other mod infantry units and more




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 endtransmission wrote:
Agreed on moving the rabble up the list of unlocks as these are also getting a lot of attention on other forums.

I'm a bit confused by the add-on costs table though. I think you may have a typo in there as it lists the starter set as costing 144 euro at kickstarter and only 20 afterwards. I think you may want to fix that one

was a mistake, sorry, the MSRP of the Starter Set will be €170


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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Coupons are also something specifically prohibited by KS https://www.kickstarter.com/rules/prohibited

so while I know projects do offer them, the can get pulled/paused if KS spots them or somebody reports you so

I'd at least change the term you're using, maybe voucher, future discount or something similar

We will change them in a second wave release, so we will ship the 6 boxes for northmen and living dead first, and late 2019 the other plastic set will be unlocked by the campaign.

When the campaign will unlock the stretch goals, you will be able to add them as add-ons (also in late pledge). We will do 2 different shipments, one with the core boxes (starter sets and the 6 for northmen, living dead and characters) and another one with the unlocked plastic kits (like folk rabble etc)

thanks for the advice guys

Sounds good to me - thanks for being so open to the feedback

and I see you added renders for the other Human faction

So we had Starks and now we have Lannisters... man they look SO good. I hope everything gets backed.

I have no money right now for this, But I'll buy them at retail without a doubt.

I like those guys much more than the Northmen. Feels like you're opening an ice cream shop with only vanilla in stock, but posters for fudge brownie and chocolate chip cookie dough on the door as "coming soon".

No Bob, if they showed lizardmen than it would be equivalent to chocolate chip cookie dough aka the best ice cream ever.

Other human faction look good. I know I can get some use out of figures like that.

I stand corrected. Gold Medal Ribbon, then?

Not sold on the new guys, I like the helms but dislike the lower half of the breastplate, I would prefer something along the lines of the Armour worn by the bad guys in the flashback scene with young Ned.

I also dislike the shoulders and upper arms, but I think the shoulder pads cannot be altered because of the undead 'Lion' Men at Arms, but altering the bars would be nice enough.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
No Bob, if they showed lizardmen than it would be equivalent to chocolate chip cookie dough aka the best ice cream ever.

Other human faction look good. I know I can get some use out of figures like that.

Not to derail the thread completely, but with the spare Oathmark snakemen heads, you can make almost any plastic kit into lizardmen. it's super easy, barely an inconvenience. (These were sci fi Mantic orx bodies.)


Pretty sure I could use Fireforge's Lion guys to whip up a Python Lannister with just a few snips.

Another cry to move the peasant kit up in the stretch goals. I'd love to see it, and once that one's "unlocked" I may jump in!

Good luck!

I don't see how they could move it up any. I'm sure they need money to create a full new kit, and its the first one in the list of stretch goals. They aren't going to replace one of the six they need for the starter set.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
I don't see how they could move it up any. I'm sure they need money to create a full new kit, and its the first one in the list of stretch goals. They aren't going to replace one of the six they need for the starter set.

Why couldn't they replace the foot soldier or Archer kits with the human rabble kit in the starter?

I guarantee that there are a lot of people who won't pledge until the thing they want is unlocked.

I'm backing to see the human rabble in plastic, but I'll back out if they aren't unlocked, since the rest of the kits are nice, but not must haves for me.

I'm on the same page as Gallahad. And I have so many darn unpainted models on my table, part of me really wants the peasants to not unlock (not really, but I think you may see what I mean)

The undead look amazing.
Shame I finished my Fantasy army of them, no more room in that case, but really nice models!

I really like the Rabble, but would be disappointed if the Human warriors got bumped.

Hopefully everything gets unlocked. I am interested to see what their elves and dwarves look like.

The second kit for the other human faction is heavy cavalry.

 Gallahad wrote:

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
I don't see how they could move it up any. I'm sure they need money to create a full new kit, and its the first one in the list of stretch goals. They aren't going to replace one of the six they need for the starter set.

Why couldn't they replace the foot soldier or Archer kits with the human rabble kit in the starter?

I guarantee that there are a lot of people who won't pledge until the thing they want is unlocked.

I'm backing to see the human rabble in plastic, but I'll back out if they aren't unlocked, since the rest of the kits are nice, but not must haves for me.

I think you kind of answered your own question. The people who want the rabble just want the rabble. People who want the boxed set want to have an army with soldiers. Assuming the rabble are playable in the game as part of the northmen faction, I guess it works, but might cause a balance issue with the box set contents. And even if it doesn't, I think you'd lose more people by not having some of the northmen units available at the start.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
I don't see how they could move it up any. I'm sure they need money to create a full new kit, and its the first one in the list of stretch goals. They aren't going to replace one of the six they need for the starter set.

Why couldn't they replace the foot soldier or Archer kits with the human rabble kit in the starter?

I guarantee that there are a lot of people who won't pledge until the thing they want is unlocked.

I'm backing to see the human rabble in plastic, but I'll back out if they aren't unlocked, since the rest of the kits are nice, but not must haves for me.

I think you kind of answered your own question. The people who want the rabble just want the rabble. People who want the boxed set want to have an army with soldiers. Assuming the rabble are playable in the game as part of the northmen faction, I guess it works, but might cause a balance issue with the box set contents. And even if it doesn't, I think you'd lose more people by not having some of the northmen units available at the start.

you are right

Honestly, I would not really mind if the human rabble were to be left out of this KS completely and launched as an independent KS (where you could even add some more options to do people less at "burn the witch!" poses and more at "we're NPCs minding our own business" ones).

 Albertorius wrote:
Honestly, I would not really mind if the human rabble were to be left out of this KS completely and launched as an independent KS (where you could even add some more options to do people less at "burn the witch!" poses and more at "we're NPCs minding our own business" ones).

This would be really great.

Well, that can still happen later if they don't get unlocked here.

Fireforge Games
48 mins ·
Dear followers, Forgotten World Kickstarter campaign will start September 20th - 7.00 pm Rome time (10.00 am Los Angeles, 1.00 pm New York, 6.00 pm London; September 21st - 3.00 am for our australian friends from Sidney and sorry if some cities are missing). Join the campaign through the same link used as preview: https://www.kickstarter.com/proje…/fireforgegames/927490714…

Help us sharing the project, give that news to all your friends, help us to release these new plastic figures and we will give you a wonderful year of games

Great looking models but I'm getting a dreamforge vibe of them overextending a little too much. Seems like they have 2 kickstarters worth of models atm...

 Commander Cain wrote:
Great looking models but I'm getting a dreamforge vibe of them overextending a little too much. Seems like they have 2 kickstarters worth of models atm...

Dreamforge was one, albeit talented, bloke. Again, Fireforge are an established company who've been producing plastic kits for years. They have established relationships, they know how long it takes to tool a mold, how much it will cost them, and what they have to charge to make the project sustainable. There's no more reason for "vibes" about this project than you'd have about the umpteenth CMoN campaign with sacks of PVC figures in.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Commander Cain wrote:
Great looking models but I'm getting a dreamforge vibe of them overextending a little too much. Seems like they have 2 kickstarters worth of models atm...

Dreamforge was one, albeit talented, bloke. Again, Fireforge are an established company who've been producing plastic kits for years. They have established relationships, they know how long it takes to tool a mold, how much it will cost them, and what they have to charge to make the project sustainable. There's no more reason for "vibes" about this project than you'd have about the umpteenth CMoN campaign with sacks of PVC figures in.

Fireforge is indeed an established company, so I have no doubt that they will deliver every stretch goal that is reached. My only fear is that there isn't enough demand for it. The mini's certainly look nice, but they need atleast more than 1000 backer to get it funded. Than another 1000 to get most of the stretch goals. If this kickstarter came two years ago I think it would have been a massive succes, but now... I don't know.. I certainly don't have much money to spare knowing what I need to set aside for what GW is planning to release in the near future... . Again at the end of Warhammer 8th edition this would have been perfect, but now.. .

Tonhel wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Commander Cain wrote:
Great looking models but I'm getting a dreamforge vibe of them overextending a little too much. Seems like they have 2 kickstarters worth of models atm...

Dreamforge was one, albeit talented, bloke. Again, Fireforge are an established company who've been producing plastic kits for years. They have established relationships, they know how long it takes to tool a mold, how much it will cost them, and what they have to charge to make the project sustainable. There's no more reason for "vibes" about this project than you'd have about the umpteenth CMoN campaign with sacks of PVC figures in.

Fireforge is indeed an established company, so I have no doubt that they will deliver every stretch goal that is reached. My only fear is that there isn't enough demand for it. The mini's certainly look nice, but they need atleast more than 1000 backer to get it funded. Than another 1000 to get most of the stretch goals. If this kickstarter came two years ago I think it would have been a massive succes, but now... I don't know.. I certainly don't have much money to spare knowing what I need to set aside for what GW is planning to release in the near future... . Again at the end of Warhammer 8th edition this would have been perfect, but now.. .

Now it's pretty much the only game in town, so I don't agree, but regardless what purpose does anticipating doom & gloom serve? It will fund or it won't, I hope it will, but that's life. The possibility it won't isn't the same as worrying that if it does, they won't be able to manage the project.

Last minute changes to our kickstarter pledges!

Limited Early Bird pledge (8 boxes+FREE kickstarter exclusives+FREE characters when unlocked) offered to 120€

Forgotten World Starter Set (content of 9 boxes+ scenery + rules + tokens + card deck + FREE kickstarter exclusives + FREE characters when unlocked) now at 140€

And a new pledge for who want assemble a really big army with our figures: General pledge, 16 boxes of your choice at 239€ +FREE 1 kickstarter exclusive of your choice + FREE characters when unlocked

That's all, we are doing our best to satisfy everyone
watch our campaign preview here:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fireforgegames/927490714?ref=558303&token=630d2b53

I'm... not a fan of Early Birds. Seems to me it penalizes people for not finding out stuff.

 Albertorius wrote:
I'm... not a fan of Early Birds. Seems to me it penalizes people for not finding out stuff.

Me neither but it does seem to drive the funding early and with how big this campaign looks it is going to need it. Will through some money at it all the same though, have we had a comparison pic of the cavalry yet? I am wondering how compatible they will be with other bits as I would like to give them some javelins.

 ingtaer wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
I'm... not a fan of Early Birds. Seems to me it penalizes people for not finding out stuff.

Me neither but it does seem to drive the funding early and with how big this campaign looks it is going to need it. Will through some money at it all the same though, have we had a comparison pic of the cavalry yet? I am wondering how compatible they will be with other bits as I would like to give them some javelins.

when painters will send back to us the prototypes we will be able to sho comparative pics of the cavalry models