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tneva82 wrote:
Since theylook like separate kits not a chance

A few things.

1.) I don't think they're separate kits. I think they're "separate" in the same way AOS kits are, in that some are sold with a different name, but the contents are all the same.

2.) I mostly mean even if they ARE single kits, I'm happy to run 2x Flamers, or 2x Plasma which are options from a single kit. I'm not in any way attempting to swap weapons cross Knight.

Looks like you could run 3 autocannon turrets or 6 Missile turrets, as the Dominus has 3 carapace hard points.

SJ

 Cephalobeard wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Since theylook like separate kits not a chance

A few things.

1.) I don't think they're separate kits. I think they're "separate" in the same way AOS kits are, in that some are sold with a different name, but the contents are all the same.

2.) I mostly mean even if they ARE single kits, I'm happy to run 2x Flamers, or 2x Plasma which are options from a single kit. I'm not in any way attempting to swap weapons cross Knight.

Maybe. We'll see. Flg asked which one i wanted.

As for 2...depends do you get 2 plasma in 1 box or not. We have seen nothing indicating yes

I specifically imagine there will only be one of each option per box. However, it's possible this becomes a thing similar to Renegade Knights where the Renegade version can dual wield when the imperial cannot, but we'll see.

Current gw...anyway flgs guy said unlike say mek gun that's 1 order code(gw site has it as 4 units) big knights are 2 order choices so 1 kit with both options unlikely. I went with plasma guy. Harpoon looks weird fos me

Interesting. Obviously they don't want people magnetising two builds out of one kit

Bit of a shame considering the only difference is from the "elbow" down on each kit.

Oh well. The arms will only be $30-50 each on ebay, I'd wager. Still cheaper than full kits.

Next year they will release a third variant and package them all in one box!

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Bit of a shame considering the only difference is from the "elbow" down on each kit.

Oh well. The arms will only be $30-50 each on ebay, I'd wager. Still cheaper than full kits.

I doubt that!
Considering only 1 of each arm in box who in thier right mind will sell thier arms and play armless knights. You’ll be lucky to find them under $50 for a while.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/29/29th-may-meet-the-dominus-class-knightgw-homepage-post-1/

Some pretty crazy abilities. If these have a good price I could see the Dominuses knights being good centerpiece models for a variety of armies.

Ion Aegis for example being able to potentially give a line a of Imperial Guard tanks 5+ invuln is pretty nice, as is their oathbreaker shield piercer missile strategem that basically let's you drop characters reliably even if they can't be seen. Given the popularity of IG company commanders to be CP batteries, having an ability that practically guarantees you can kill him turn 1 is very handy. Now they'd have to hide them in a vehicle or fortification.

Big kicker will be the price, but I like that GW seems to be leaning toward more Xd3 weapons as well for more consistent rolls and averages. I'm pretty sure I'd want the Castellan as it's basically an Executioner tank and a shadowsword wrapped into one titan, but that flamer on the other variant is deadly enough to even threaten most planes.

If the rumours about Armigers are correct then they might be quite spammable.

~165 for a 12 wound guy with decent wounds, speed and ability in cc (especially if the rumours they're gettnig a sweep attack are true) would be a great little unit. I could honestly see a case for taking a whole bunch of them. 6 come in at around 1k points. You could have 8 of them and one of the big guys in 2k.

Whether or not they get the multi-attack is crucial to whether this would work at all. So is the profile of the autocannons on the Helligers.

My gut says the autocannons are just autocannons.... maybe icarus autocannons

Sounds they are 2d3 shot autocannons. Bit odd weapon choice

For $170 USD it would be great if it was a single kit that could be magnetised.

So it would. Why you think gw decided not to?

Someone above ...

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Bit of a shame considering the only difference is from the "elbow" down on each kit.

Oh well. The arms will only be $30-50 each on ebay, I'd wager. Still cheaper than full kits.

As someone (I think) who know very well the bits business and order easily more than 400€ of bits a year, I can guarentee that you wont find the single most desirable bits of a 170$ kit for less than 100 USD.
Thats literally the only thing of value in the box.

ALSO, The Carapace are different on the two models and I dont see GW giving 2 carapace on top of Huge weapons for both types in a single kit for "only" 170$. So definetly 2 different kits.

Do we know if the meltas on the dominus knights can be swapped for something else? I really wouldn't want 60 pts worth of 12' guns on a model that will most likely sit back and lob shells...

So, three single Armigers in a LOW detachment and rhen a second LOW detachment with your main knights? Get 9 command points to work with.

Was thinking of a volcano/plasma dominus with missiles, and either a pair of crusaders or two FW Knights, depending. Will probably run them as freeblades, since Ive painted all my knights in different schemes.

tneva82 wrote:
Sounds they are 2d3 shot autocannons. Bit odd weapon choice

I'd hope that they aren't just D3 shots apiece - especially when the "cannons" on the new Knights are 2D3 apiece... But then... This is GW, and logic doesn't really apply.

If the big Dominus is two kits, I'll take whichever one doesn't have the Plasma-type gun and kitbash from my Plasma Destructor instead.

Thoughts on the super flamer?

Well if the leaked terrain piece does max out random shots then put them both next to your shooting units and delete basically any hoard or CC unit that comes to tarpit or kill them.

I\m betting on rerolls rather than max shots.

Even then, you could still get a noticeable increase if you're only rerolling 1s, 2s and maybe 3s if you feel lucky.

Assuming that's not rerolling to hit's.

If my friend is right, it's max shots, regain d6 Wounds or refresh your used one-shot-weapons. For 32.50€ I'd take one.

Depending on points cost, the Forge Shrine may end up being an autoinclude, shoving a Dominus Knight on it and never leaving so you can keep it at a decent wound count, or max shots on weapons. Refresh a missile may be the lesser choice, depending on how actually effective the shrine is, and how effective the other weapons are. If the shrine max's shots on all weapons, it'll be rather absurd.

The problem with terrain is even if it does slightly improve efficiency it usually costs so much it’s better to just take another unit that actually does real Damage.

So with today’s announcement knights got about twice as durable. 5++ to 4++ on up to two knights will be easy. If the relic holds true that’s two knights always at 4++ with one at 3++ due to RIS.

They will be vulnerable in cc however....


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If you want to get real froggy, and RIS does not specify a max, use all three on a single knight for a 2++ against shooting