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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 20:33:04
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Stormfiends get 2d3 mortal wounds per model with the flamers. I really want that changed to some sort of hit mechanic.
I honestly hate any form of "this just happens and nothing could have stopped it".
Make them do some sort of hit roll, or on a roll of x, it happens. If Starsoul maces or warpflamers were on a hit roll, I'd have no problem with them.
The Eel Guard is fine, cause you have to roll for damage. It isn't just "It happens if you are by them."
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Nearly 3k+ points of Slaanesh (AoS)
2500 points of Ironjawz
Too many points of Space Marines. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 20:35:16
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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lord_blackfang wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGOWPzoNRuQ
The official AoS tutorial series from GW.
Since we're all inclusive and stuff now, GW hired a random babe to read the rules off a teleprompter and pretend she's not horrified by this weird manchild hobby.
My only two complaints
1) The random desire of whoever is directing to keep jumping the camera around all the time, its somewhat annoying and hopefully if the videos go into a tiny bit more detail it should go away (esp the whole angle where she's facing the left on the left and there' s a blurry background on the right - terribly composed angle that just feels awkward).
2) As an overview its very effective, but at the end doesn't actually tell us much of anything; esp as it feels odd to jump in half way and miss out the army building stage (and she didn't even really say which Age of Sigmar we are playing unless that is a subtle way for GW to push things toward points).
I thnk the rest of the videos when seen as a set should tell us what depth they are going for; baring in mind that its going to be beginner focused and more aimed at getting people into the shop and game rather than being a detailed strategic video series. Though if it does well enough they might advance to that.
As for the choice of presenter, I have no idea who she is, but that she is a she is no problem for me. I don't even see it as being all "inclusive" nor even why it would need mentioning. She could be anything human and it would be fine. That she's a gamer and has a long history of presenting gaming videos is, honestly, fantastic ontop of her being the presenter
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 21:06:40
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Lieutenant General
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I still would have preferred Brian Blessed...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/06/15 21:15:18
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 21:07:45
Subject: Re:New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Endless Spells points linked on reddit:
Pendulum: 40
Balewind: 40
Burning Head: 40
Cogs: 60
Lifeswarm: 60
Geminids: 40
Maelstrom: 20
Palisade: 30
Purple Sun: 100
Quicksilver Swords: 20
Gnashing Jaws: 40
Shackles: 20
Gravetide: 30
Spellportal: 60
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 21:11:26
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Charging Dragon Prince
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Ghaz wrote:I still wold have preferred Brian Blessed...
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 21:19:20
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I too would have liked him to do it and I really hope he does at least one battle report or something with them. Voice, beard, build and all he's just the kind of person who'd fit the bill and make things sound really exciting!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 21:28:59
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Foxy Wildborne
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motyak wrote:Thommy H has the right of it, so before you go writing off someone in a video in such a rude way make sure you have some idea what you're talking about.
So I don't keep track of every woman who blesses geekdom by selling her looks to lonely men. Sue me.
The decision to have the rules explained by someone pretty who has to read off a teleprompter instead of by one of the designers who could explain things organically is still bizarre.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 21:32:41
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Yes. It's very bizarre to hire someone who has a webseries about explaining rules when you need someone to explain your rules. The fact that they found someone to do so who is also attractive and charismatic is disgusting. /s
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 21:51:02
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Fixture of Dakka
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EnTyme wrote:Yes. It's very bizarre to hire someone who has a webseries about explaining rules when you need someone to explain your rules. The fact that they found someone to do so who is also attractive and charismatic is disgusting. /s
Curious what your stance would be if she wasn't attractive.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 21:58:02
Subject: Re:New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Lieutenant General
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EnTyme wrote:Endless Spells points linked on reddit:
Pendulum: 40
Balewind: 40
Burning Head: 40
Cogs: 60
Lifeswarm: 60
Geminids: 40
Maelstrom: 20
Palisade: 30
Purple Sun: 100
Quicksilver Swords: 20
Gnashing Jaws: 40
Shackles: 20
Gravetide: 30
Spellportal: 60
EDIT: NEW ZEALAND PRE-ORDERS ARE UP!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/06/15 22:12:34
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 22:20:27
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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Poor Daughters of Khaine don't get a getting started pack!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 22:28:08
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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lord_blackfang wrote: motyak wrote:Thommy H has the right of it, so before you go writing off someone in a video in such a rude way make sure you have some idea what you're talking about.
So I don't keep track of every woman who blesses geekdom by selling her looks to lonely men. Sue me.
The decision to have the rules explained by someone pretty who has to read off a teleprompter instead of by one of the designers who could explain things organically is still bizarre.
Man, you truly are a paragon of virtue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 22:31:56
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Clousseau
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Its not bizarre at all. Its marketing 101. Which is how beautiful women like that can make a solid living explaining rules of a game that they don't play to a mostly unwashed following of males and it be successful.
Same reason why booth bunnies are at gencon selling swag and game pieces for games they know nothing about but are super successful.
Or why motorcycles spend marketing dollars on bikini clad models sitting on their machines to sell them to men.
Because it works.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 22:32:48
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
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I am very very happy with the new starter set. Got to go into my local GW and help build the spells + new box. Got to look at all the new stuff except generals handbook. Oh it's good. I was wary of the easy to build, but it's actually really nice.
I'm gonna be picking up one of them and swapping knight haunt for 2 stormcast. Hahahaha 2 ballistas and lord ordinator? Yes please.
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insaniak wrote:
You can choose to focus on the parts of a hobby that make you unhappy, or you can choose to focus on the parts that you enjoy. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 22:42:40
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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auticus wrote:Or why motorcycles spend marketing dollars on bikini clad models sitting on their machines to sell them to men.
Bikinis are the official attire of motorcycle enthusiasts everywhere. It's one of the reasons I don't ride a motorcycle. I look terrible in a bikini (from the side).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 01:45:30
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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McMagnus Mindbullets wrote:I am very very happy with the new starter set. Got to go into my local GW and help build the spells + new box. Got to look at all the new stuff except generals handbook. Oh it's good. I was wary of the easy to build, but it's actually really nice.
I'm gonna be picking up one of them and swapping knight haunt for 2 stormcast. Hahahaha 2 ballistas and lord ordinator? Yes please.
My fingers hurt after assembling the purple sun. It needs a stab warning.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 02:00:47
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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NinthMusketeer wrote: McMagnus Mindbullets wrote:I am very very happy with the new starter set. Got to go into my local GW and help build the spells + new box. Got to look at all the new stuff except generals handbook. Oh it's good. I was wary of the easy to build, but it's actually really nice.
I'm gonna be picking up one of them and swapping knight haunt for 2 stormcast. Hahahaha 2 ballistas and lord ordinator? Yes please.
My fingers hurt after assembling the purple sun. It needs a stab warning.
During the rather lackluster unboxing, they did mention they thought about adding one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0008/06/16 02:55:34
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The presenter of the how to play videos, does exactly that every week for geek and sundry on twitch and youtube. She did a how to play video for Shadespire (not commissioned by GW) which was very popular. I guess GW was impressed and asked her to do aos too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 03:01:08
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Regular Dakkanaut
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/tg/ has a pdf of all artefacts for realms. I'm dont post too often, but is it kosher to post?
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Nearly 3k+ points of Slaanesh (AoS)
2500 points of Ironjawz
Too many points of Space Marines. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 05:06:57
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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motyak wrote:Thommy H has the right of it, so before you go writing off someone in a video in such a rude way make sure you have some idea what you're talking about.
To be fair, her delivery is very generic 'I'm a model I am paid to read a script and make vague hand motions but I'd look exactly the same in front of any product I were paid to promote'.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 06:56:25
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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lord_blackfang wrote: motyak wrote:Thommy H has the right of it, so before you go writing off someone in a video in such a rude way make sure you have some idea what you're talking about.
So I don't keep track of every woman who blesses geekdom by selling her looks to lonely men. Sue me.
The decision to have the rules explained by someone pretty who has to read off a teleprompter instead of by one of the designers who could explain things organically is still bizarre.
You can't be serious, surely?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 08:03:19
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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NinthMusketeer wrote: McMagnus Mindbullets wrote:I am very very happy with the new starter set. Got to go into my local GW and help build the spells + new box. Got to look at all the new stuff except generals handbook. Oh it's good. I was wary of the easy to build, but it's actually really nice.
I'm gonna be picking up one of them and swapping knight haunt for 2 stormcast. Hahahaha 2 ballistas and lord ordinator? Yes please.
My fingers hurt after assembling the purple sun. It needs a stab warning.
Assembling spiky models is a right of passage and skill. Also its plastic its no where near the same level of pain and torment as metal spiked models - where you've not only got to hold the bits but hold them tight together whilst the glue starts to cure. Where the pain in the fingers is battled against that fear of "don't let go too soon" otherwise all that pain is for nothing and you have to wait to scrape of the dry glue and start afresh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 11:47:15
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Clousseau
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What did you have to do to get access to the models two weeks early
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 12:49:24
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Master Engineer with a Brace of Pistols
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auticus wrote:What did you have to do to get access to the models two weeks early
Get down on your knees?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 13:23:06
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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This is, IMO, one of the biggest issues with the lack of Start Collecting sets as part of the initial range launch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 14:21:35
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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So did anyone else notice on that video that the Liberator warscroll was updated? Some wordings were made clearer, but the paired weapons rule was actually changed. It is now two hits on sixes rather than reroll ones to hit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 14:21:42
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Regular Dakkanaut
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jonolikespie wrote:
To be fair, her delivery is very generic 'I'm a model I am paid to read a script and make vague hand motions but I'd look exactly the same in front of any product I were paid to promote'.
Her delivery is enthusiastic and clear and, yes, she's reading a script. Shockingly, all of GW's videos are scripted!
So maybe think about why you don't accuse Duncan of this kind of thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 14:28:52
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Master Engineer with a Brace of Pistols
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Crimson wrote:So did anyone else notice on that video that the Liberator warscroll was updated? Some wordings were made clearer, but the paired weapons rule was actually changed. It is now two hits on sixes rather than reroll ones to hit.
I really like that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 15:38:58
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Dakka Veteran
Seattle, WA USA
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Thommy H wrote: jonolikespie wrote:
To be fair, her delivery is very generic 'I'm a model I am paid to read a script and make vague hand motions but I'd look exactly the same in front of any product I were paid to promote'.
Her delivery is enthusiastic and clear and, yes, she's reading a script. Shockingly, all of GW's videos are scripted!
So maybe think about why you don't accuse Duncan of this kind of thing.
About the only thing I'd say is that for the ones I watched, her delivery is a little more wooden than I've seen in some of her other videos. The one she did way back on Shadespire, for example, was a lot more animated. Now, I don't know if that was the director or what, but I also wouldn't say it was actively bad or anything. Though some of the camera angle choices were really weird.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/18 00:25:47
Subject: New AOS Edition comes out in June
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Blood Coven?
Edit: Oh, I see. You were talking about the pre-order page on the GW website. It's probably because Blood Coven has been out of stock for ages.
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