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If you want a harder version of Zombicide, this is the way to do it. If you get both optional buys you can kiss ranged combat goodbye, or at least see it drastically reduced in effectiveness. You'd have zombies that can't be killed by ranged attacks, plus zombies that block ranged attacks for themselves and other zombies.

And let's not forget you already have to go hunt down the necromancer lest he advance the spawn points or even just end the game. Throw in some deadeye walkers and/or wolvz from prior campaigns and you would have a ridiculously hard fight on your hands. More interesting, I think, but crazy hard. Just looking at it I don't know that the wall and the chi mechanic from the campaign would make up for it. Then again you probably have to be a little crazy to own all that content, let alone use it all at once. It would be cool to mount the siege weapons on the wall, though. With everything all at once you're starting to look like that crazy Matt Damon Great Wall movie - flaming oil falling, artillery pounding away, hordes advancing relentlessly, people diving off the wall on ropes for desperate missions... maybe I do need to get all the addons.

Four add-on characters right off the bat with names lifted from China's Three Kingdoms era (amusingly, one of those "names" is just the descriptor she's known by, and not her actual name, which has been lost to history), five if you count Red Hare. And the Marquis of Mao character looks suspiciously like Red Hare's rider, Lu Bu. I also wouldn't be surprised if there's at least one more that I missed.

Interesting

The Marquis of Mao is absolutely Wei's Zhang He by way of the older Dynasty Warrior games.



Glad to see CMON fully embracing the beauty of the battlefield, as Zhang He loved to constantly quip in the older games.

On the one hand, you're right - he's got Zhang He's claws. But he's also got streamers attached to the top of his head reminiscent of what Lu Bu is generally depicted as having both in the Koei games, and elsewhere (supposedly phoenix plumes, IIRC).

The title doesn't make any sense for either character, though, afaik.

I keep wondering if they had actually planned an actual Three Kingdoms game at one point and took all those assets and put them here.

Kind of like what happened with the failed Sedition Wars expansions becoming models for CMON's version of Project Elite.

Fine by me at least, even if it's totally random speculation. I'm loving all those samurai models too, and the heroes from other Asian countries getting some representation as well.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I keep wondering if they had actually planned an actual Three Kingdoms game at one point and took all those assets and put them here.

Kind of like what happened with the failed Sedition Wars expansions becoming models for CMON's version of Project Elite.

Fine by me at least, even if it's totally random speculation. I'm loving all those samurai models too, and the heroes from other Asian countries getting some representation as well.

Gosh, I hope that's not the case because this would be a real sad way to see that go down.

Someone needs to get on a 3K game.

rising sun cross over addon



8 Survivor Figures
1 Necromancer Figure
3 Necromancer Cards
8 Survivor ID Cards
1 Rules Leaflet

I was excited when I saw the name, hoping for some kind of crossover with the Rising Sun board game (like maybe using units from it as aboms or heroes) but sadly it is just more survivors and a cool necromancer.

On the bright side the sculpts are great. If I do pick this up I will grab some of my normal clan figures from Rising Sun to use as the guards to go with them.

Also is it me, or is it kind of weird that they used the actual character names for the japanese add-on but the main campaign is full of three kingdoms figures that are often pretty obvious but don't just use the correct name..?

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The Three Kingdoms characters I mentioned above all have the names of real people from that time period. Cao Ren, for example, was a real person. Da Quiao is the nickname (her real name is lost to history) of one sister in a pair who married important members of Wu. Red Hare was the actual name of Lu Bu's horse. We don't know who the Marquis of Mao might have been inspired by. But there are real Three Kingdoms historical figures in that collection using their traditional names.

 Dujek wrote:
I was excited when I saw the name, hoping for some kind of crossover with the Rising Sun board game (like maybe using units from it as aboms or heroes) but sadly it is just more survivors and a cool necromancer.

On the bright side the sculpts are great. If I do pick this up I will grab some of my normal clan figures from Rising Sun to use as the guards to go with them.

Also is it me, or is it kind of weird that they used the actual character names for the Japanese add-on but the main campaign is full of three kingdoms figures that are often pretty obvious but don't just use the correct name..?

Japanese spellings (ie romanization) are pretty consistent in English. Chinese doesn't really have a definitive romanization of their names so some of them are correct for that method of spelling. Others I'm not sure why they use a title or different name but it's likely more just a fluff reason unless Koei does have some trademarks on some of them (which would be odd if they were all from the books/history).

Thanks you two, so it is just me I was thinking of one that looked like Lu Bu and totally forgot/overlooked the rest.

I like all this asian stuff (a lot, actually) but I do hope we are going to see more of the original winter/kislev aesthetic. Most of the new heroes look like they would freeze to death in the game they're supposed to be stretch goals for!

> Also is it me, or is it kind of weird that they used the actual character names for the japanese add-on but the main campaign is full of three kingdoms figures that are often pretty obvious but don't just use the correct name..?

Chinese names are all over the place, especially when Japanese folklore takes over. (: Even in modern times, we had Peking changed to Beijing (even though the duck stayed the same) and Formosa to Taiwan. (The Chinese call China 'Zhongguo', btw, so I'm waiting for that name to change as well.) Of course, when Romans took over Greece, they renamed the Greek Gods to their Roman conceptual counterparts -- now, that's renaming for you. And then there's CMON's filing off the serial numbers to avoid IP, obvious with the anime, dunno about Dynastry Warriors -- even though DW uses historical names, might as well change them to be safe or something.

Just use whatever names you want. We don't have historical records of what these people even looked like, other than the stylized paintings of the time, so the illustrations are even less accurate!

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-lets-call-beijing-peking/

Zhong guo literally means "central country" (aka the country in the center of the world), so I don't think that one's going to change anytime soon.



Peking to Beijing is just a change in Romanization. As odd as it sounds, the man who invented the Peking "spelling" meant it to sound like Beijing. But he was a linguist, so his phonetic alphabet was a bit unusual by common standards...

Really, though, the Chinese names on this appear to be fairly straightforward, and - aside from the Marquis - are all easily identifiable if you have familiarity with the source material (or enter it into a search engine). All but two are from Three Kingdoms. The other two are Caishen Ye, named after the god of wealth, and Sha Wujing, who's named after the dragon transformed into a horse in The Journey to the West (I'm guessing the more famous Sun Wuking will be revealed as a daily unlock). Again, that leaves the Marquis of Mao. I'm not aware of anyone with that title. And the word Mao itself can mean either cat or hat (yes, like the book by Dr. Suess ) depending on the accent stress.

Turtles Timecrash expansion coming today

Will go to retail but Jennika is KS exclusive

Oh nice. I have the original turtles set from a few years ago but I'm glad to get a reskin.

man the Three Kingdoms Box has me real tempted, but I have no interest in White Death. =/

The ninja turtle one at first made me roll my eyes but they won me over. The Turtles in traditional armor? Fantastic.

New tiles that mix bits of modern city with wrecked snowy medieval bits? Brilliant..

Actual Foot clan that work as a new enemy type? Marvelous.

I don't like that April is not really any different than random hero #5. At least Casey still has a hockey stick.

I have to say that in general there are turning out to be a lot of good add-ons and the core pledge alone has a metric ton of heroes, aboms, and special zombies. At first I was not thrilled how much they were straying from the core aesthetic (which seems like a poncy git kind of thing to say, I know) but the sheer variety at this point has become a lot of fun.

I've got the Thundercats models for zombicide already, and now there are Turtles... what old cartoon will they tap next?..

Some backers were disappointed that the CMON walls lacked ladders, stairs, and cauldrons, and weren't tall enough (they're shorter for gaming), so here are some alternatives. You're paying 3x more, so obviously you'd want them if you could use them for more than WD.

All lack cauldrons. While not difficult to find on eBay, Etsy, and Amazon, cauldrons are not cheap. Maybe you can find dollhouse plastic ones at a crafts store, like Michael's? :/

Battle System's "Dungeon Terrain". Multistory dungeon, with walls, walkways, ladders, stairs, and more. Either wait for retail or make a Late Pledge on the Maladum KS.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/battlesystems/maladum-dungeons-of-enveron/
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/battlesystems/maladum-dungeons-of-enveron/posts/3770977

Battle System's "Citadel". No ladders, but if you have other BS fantasy sets, such as the Village Set, you already have ladders.
https://battlesystems.co.uk/product/fantasy-citadel/

Archon's "Grand Stronghold". Pic is small, but I'm only seeing stairs.
https://shop.archon-studio.com/

EDIT: .stl for the 3D printers! : https://www.reddit.com/r/zombicide/comments/12owa8p/zombicide_white_death_3d_printed_battlements_set/

I'm not that interested in Zombicide, but that Samurai TMNT set is a nice callback to the movie. I do hope it comes to retail and that I can get it then, as I don't want to get the base game (CMON kickstarter requirement) just so I can get this expansion.

TMNT is planned for retail, but they're still an expansion for WD, as the 10 missions require the WD tiles (and other components, I guess). You can, of course, use the Survivors, Hand, and Shredder in other games.

EDIT: Then there's eBay...! : https://www.ebay.com/b/Samurai-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Action-Figures-Accessories/246/bn_85769040

The TMNT pack will be available at retail, it's not marked as KS-exclusive. Same for the campaign and crossfire expansions. Knowing how the last few retail expansions have gone, you will be able to get them cheaper once they're released, so there is not a lot of incentive to get them as part of the kickstarter (besides a few extra figures in some cases). My guess is that having some of the best stuff not be exclusive has hurt the kickstarter total but who knows.

The walls are probably priced OK for what I would eyeball to be around four feet's worth of width in total. But there is nothing particularly remarkable about them, they're just generic brick walls, and they're pretty short too. No asian flavor nor winter flavor. Anyone with a 3d printer, or a friend who has one, can easily do much better.

I think it is funny how this has turned into "Zombicide: Furry Edition".

Everybody can enjoy whatever they want! I just think it is funny how far this diverged from what everyone thought it would be originally.

Honestly I'm loving the crazy ways this KS has swung around properties and different cultures. I'm just treating as a crazy TMNT what If comic now.

I think it would be fun to use the TMNT as heroes in HeroQuest.

Turtles and 3 Kingdoms sold me on this, unfortunately lol.

I just went basic plus the few add-ons I wanted. Still waiting for my Marvel Zombies KS stuff tho :(

about 24 hours left and the campaign has reached 3 million USD.

All in pledge for $380 but it doesn't include the walls, dice, extra tiles or Massive Darkness 2 compatibility pack.



Mulan is the next unlock which should easily happen.

She's in and now we've got a really nice rendition of the Monkey King!

That’s 3 of the 4 Journey to the West characters so Zhu Bajie “Pigsy” must be likely for tomorrow. As always the core pledge is packed full of value the rest will depend on the charges in the PM.

Greatly tempted by this one and this theme and the minis look great, but I never played any of the others and eventually sold/gave them all away...

Honestly that's a great reason not to back.