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With the products being sold, and Rivet Wars was by another company, that leaves us with(looking at Kickstarter save for Dark Age):

SMOG
Kaosball
Dark Age
Wrath of Kings
Sedition Wars
Rum & Bones(company that now owns Tale of War does not have that)
B-Sieged
XenoShift
Dogs of War
Cardwalion

Only other non IP on the list is Relic Knights, and that is Ignition:Core now.


Time to place your bets.

The last two are licensed IP (Confrontation/Rackham) that Monolith owns. They could sell the rules but nothing else from those games.

CMON also posted a few days ago on the CDMD gamefound site that they are very aware of the tariff problems and will try to keep backers aware of what is going on.
https://gamefound.com/en/projects/cmon/dmd-forbidden-reaches/updates/70?ref=notification_1
Plus most of CMONs best games are associated with Guillotine games, so not sure how that will split out.

So at least they are keeping people updated at least, it could be like Palladium books latest go around with the TMNT RPG books that are in a developmental quagmire
and their updates keep getting fewer as their completion time is long in the rearview mirror, where have we seen that before with them....oh ya..

Looks like CMON sold Zombicide IP to Asmodee.

https://corporate.asmodee.com/news/asmodee-acquires-the-zombicide-ip

This is good news for backers waiting on CMON Kickstarters.

Zombicide is a very valuable IP and likely bought CMON some more time to fulfill their campaigns.

That's their biggest cash cow gone it will fund them short term but where will the money come from in future? unless they have an agreement to licence it back or something or they'll keep the mechanics and reskin it a bit like Massive Darkness.

It is a big cash cow, but they have milked it for a long time. I don't know how many more variations the market will support.

They can do small changes to winning formula and call it something else (like The Dead Keep). The biggest bump in revenue is likely from crowd funding, not ongoing sales.

We will see if the play pays off.

If there was an IP that I wasn't expecting them to sell, that one would be it. It's the one that I most associate with them as a company and was critical to their early success.

It's less surprising then selling, say, Death May Die as I agree with Gallahad it's pretty milked and while I backed White Death it felt like they were running out of fuel for the brand.

But it's still not something I had them selling before some of their other unused IP.

I can also see CMoN still making the games for Asmodee too.

 DaveC wrote:
That's their biggest cash cow gone it will fund them short term but where will the money come from in future? unless they have an agreement to licence it back or something or they'll keep the mechanics and reskin it a bit like Massive Darkness.

Well, with SPIN Master, they have the Marvel United franchise. Well-known IP, known game system, and partner who, maybe, can share the production for the game. CMON still has, as said, Massive Darkness, plus Cthulhu: Death May Die, and the ASOIF line, as well as Marvel Zombies and DCEased, although I'm assuming they're not Zombicide licenses? Marvel United, at least for now, has a low price point so is accessible to the casual market, while their other games have a higher price tag and aren't. You'll note that both Marvel Zombies and DCEased have retail versions, while Zombicide doesn't.

After not just the tariffs but covid, I'm seeing a definite decline in crowdfunding. Transitioning back to retail when you have an evergreen product sounds like a practical strategy.

 Monkeysloth wrote:


I can also see CMoN still making the games for Asmodee too.

Asmodee says Zombicide is going to be operated under the Guillotine Games label so it sounds like they've got that name too (I think they remained a separate studio under exclusive contract when they sold the Zombicide IP to CMON?)

although i guess Asmodee may not retain any of the creative staff given what they did with FFG

I thought CMoN bought Guillotine years ago. They still design like half of CMoNs games.

As some of you may have seen, it's recently been announced that the Zombicide game series is changing hands from CMON to its new home at Asmodee.

What does that mean for DCeased?

This has no impact on DCeased or any other licensed titles that use a similar system. These games are not part of the transition and will continue to be produced and distributed by CMON as usual. This means nothing changes for the fulfillment of this project, so please stay tuned for more updates on DCeased as soon as we have them, and thanks again for your support.

You may have seen the recent announcement regarding Asmodee's acquisition of Zombicide.

So, what does that mean for you? In the short term, nothing changes. You can read more here.

CMON will continue to support all Zombicide: White Death backers for the next six months. That includes handling replacements, answering product questions, and ensuring everything runs smoothly with your pledge. After that period, Asmodee will take over ongoing support.

We know this is a big transition, but we’re here to make it as smooth as possible. Our priority remains delivering a great experience for each of you.

Interesting as Marvel Zombies literally has "A Zombicide Game" printed on the box. I guess that may be removed from DCeased and any future reprints of MZ when someone buys their interest in them out.

they could have a retroactive license to still use that branding and rules for those games.

True.

Well now I feel like I'm going to be stuck with a bunch of half finished armies again. First it was Warmachine, now Asoiaf.

 legionaires wrote:
Well now I feel like I'm going to be stuck with a bunch of half finished armies again. First it was Warmachine, now Asoiaf.

I mean Warmachine is still an active game with Rules and Releases consistently released. ASOIAF suffered from a lack of both.

 legionaires wrote:
Well now I feel like I'm going to be stuck with a bunch of half finished armies again. First it was Warmachine, now Asoiaf.

Are you referring to the more recent kickstarter set mostly in a different time period? Or are there units/figures already announced for the main GOT/ASOIAF setting that were never released?

 rybackstun wrote:
I mean Warmachine is still an active game with Rules and Releases consistently released. ASOIAF suffered from a lack of both.

Its the Mk3 armies that I'm missing stuff from that is extremely unlikely that SFG will reprint.

 warboss wrote:
Are you referring to the more recent kickstarter set mostly in a different time period? Or are there units/figures already announced for the main GOT/ASOIAF setting that were never released?

The main GOT game. I'm missing a half dozen units from several armies because I am a broke FOMO Gibbon who can't ever finish an army.

 legionaires wrote:

 rybackstun wrote:
I mean Warmachine is still an active game with Rules and Releases consistently released. ASOIAF suffered from a lack of both.

Its the Mk3 armies that I'm missing stuff from that is extremely unlikely that SFG will reprint.

 warboss wrote:
Are you referring to the more recent kickstarter set mostly in a different time period? Or are there units/figures already announced for the main GOT/ASOIAF setting that were never released?

The main GOT game. I'm missing a half dozen units from several armies because I am a broke FOMO Gibbon who can't ever finish an army.

Well there is always hope that Warmachine will be releasing the armies via .STL as they now have a Tribe with monthly releases.

The GOT game is also likely to release again eventually. They had times where certain units took forever to restock, but about a year ago they started getting refreshes out.

 legionaires wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Are you referring to the more recent kickstarter set mostly in a different time period? Or are there units/figures already announced for the main GOT/ASOIAF setting that were never released?

The main GOT game. I'm missing a half dozen units from several armies because I am a broke FOMO Gibbon who can't ever finish an army.

Ah, ok. I thought maybe they very early previewed a bunch of stuff that was never released or something.

 Gallahad wrote:
Looks like CMON sold Zombicide IP to Asmodee.

Just in time for Asmodee to rase prices. ):

From Detective Hawk Games: "On Friday June 13th we were notified by Asmodee that the MSRP on a wide number of products will be going up by 15% on July 15th 2025."

Fantasy Flight Games is the only major Ameritrash company I'm seeing owned by Asmodee, although many popular Euros are owned by Asmodee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asmodee#Products

It really does feel like CMON has reached a tipping point here, selling off Zombicide.

I don't think this is good news in terms of their long term viability.

Or good news in terms of some of the more out there waiting to be fulfilled Kickstarters...

That's it, then. CMON goes from miniatures company to kickstarter company to... well....

The fact that Asmodee only allows price drops on their say so does not look good for Zombicide, at least in the states.

.... Looks like were getting closer to only being able to play poker...

 legionaires wrote:
Well now I feel like I'm going to be stuck with a bunch of half finished armies again. First it was Warmachine, now Asoiaf.

Excepting Brotherhood without Banners, the ASOIAF armies all seem pretty well kitted out for units. Or do you mean your ability to buy the minis while they're still available?

If Asmodee palm it off on AMG, best start buying any gaps in your collection now.

AMG seems to be where Asmodee sends games to die.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If Asmodee palm it off on AMG, best start buying any gaps in your collection now.

AMG seems to be where Asmodee sends games to die.

Somewhat unfair (in part). Under AMG, Legion has seen a massive amount of investment in refreshing the range and replacing all the original waves in hard plastic, alongside a substantial rules revamp. The latter is no doubt divisive as it certainly pushes away some existing players when AMG want to bring the ruleset more in line with their own vision (as much as any edition change tends to) but the intent is clearly a soft reset and to engage new players rather than let the game fade away. I certainly can't fault them for effort when it comes to Legion at least.

X-Wing and Armada are of course different situations and involve plenty of resentment but AMG evidently had little to no interest in the systems nor wanted them under their banner. Presumably Asmodee could have pushed them harder/given them the resources to develop further if they cared or saw a return on investment for it but there does seem to have been a mutual apathy.

It’s not just X-Wing and Armada though. Feels like every year, AMG fart out another Star Wars game, in a slightly different model scale, and drops an existing one.

That doesn't sound quite right. Afaik they dropped the dungeon crawler that was like 10 years old at that point, they're going strong on the army scale Legion they inherited, and added one arena battler.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s not just X-Wing and Armada though. Feels like every year, AMG fart out another Star Wars game, in a slightly different model scale, and drops an existing one.

How so? They've made precisely one SW game of their own (Shatterpoint), which they were working on prior to knowing they were inheriting Legion etc. from FFG and is analogous to their earlier Marvel game.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
That doesn't sound quite right. Afaik they dropped the dungeon crawler that was like 10 years old at that point, they're going strong on the army scale Legion they inherited, and added one arena battler.

Imperial Assault (the dungeon crawler type thing) wasn't, to my knowledge, getting any active updates by FFG even prior to the reshuffle at Asmodee. It's never been under AMG's purview.