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Ok, I'll admit it. I'm super excited. What will Vault 76 be?

 feeder wrote:
Ok, I'll admit it. I'm super excited. What will Vault 76 be?

The Fallout version of Sim City Online.

Yeah, that's the big question, isn't it? I love Bethesda's RPGs and wouldn't mind more of the same, but I also think the setting has plenty of opportunities for a genre change.

I wonder how much will be retconned or shoehorned in this time around?

Be interesting if you end up becoming the founder of BoS or NCR or similar

Errrrr, no. Not unless things get radically retconned.

Isn't that the question you just asked?

 BrookM wrote:
I wonder how much will be retconned or shoehorned in this time around?

Everything! We'll get all the retcons in one handy package!

Or, if this turns out as I think it will, it'll be too removed from the existing settings and only provide new information, perhaps with the odd continuity error instead of retroactively inventing new power armor.

 feeder wrote:
Be interesting if you end up becoming the founder of BoS or NCR or similar

If I had to guess I'd go with "similar". Vault 76, by its number, sounds very far east. Like, West Virginia east.

Far from the BoS and NCR, both in space and time.

Voss wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vault_76

Just in case anyone wants to know.

Also, VVVVVVEEERRRYYYY pumped for this

Mark me as somewhat interesting depending on what exactly it is and if its higher quality than the FO4 DLCs (which were largely bad, except for the brief attack from the mists at the start of far harbor, which was nicely thematic)

Dont get me wrong, FO4 was the worst of the series with one of the best DLC's of the Series, I am not expecting this new one to blow me away, but I loves me some fallout.

 feeder wrote:
Isn't that the question you just asked?

Derp!

But it would feel weird if the BoS was not founded by Maxwell and the NCR by Tandi.

 BrookM wrote:

 feeder wrote:
Isn't that the question you just asked?

Derp!

But it would feel weird if the BoS was not founded by Maxwell and the NCR by Tandi.

Tandi didnt create the NCR, I did, through my puppet Tandi.... LONG LIVE THE VAULT DWELLER!!!

As much as I love Fallout I will not be buying this one right out of the gate, FO4 was just...bland with a story so bad and full of holes that whomever wrote it should, never, ever write again. Seriously the Institute are basically the sock gnomes of the Fallout universe.

Step 1) Science
Step 2) Make Synths
Step 3)...
Step 4) Profit!

I am really hoping that this game is basically Bethesda's apology for FO4.

 Formosa wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 feeder wrote:
Isn't that the question you just asked?

Derp!

But it would feel weird if the BoS was not founded by Maxwell and the NCR by Tandi.

Tandi didnt create the NCR, I did, through my puppet Tandi.... LONG LIVE THE VAULT DWELLER!!!

Wait! I'm the Vault Dweller! And I didn't found the NCR. I founded a village full of morons.

Yeah, ok. You can be the Vault Dweller. I'll be in the bottom of a glass if you need me.

Fething online MMO by the sounds of it.

Well, the feeling excited for the morning was nice, anyway. :(

 feeder wrote:
Fething online MMO by the sounds of it.

Well, the feeling excited for the morning was nice, anyway. :(

That's a bummer. The only thing that can save it is if multiplayer is optional, although single player is probably going to suffer if aimed at multiplayer.

Sounds a bit more like a online survival game like Ark or DayZ.
Which... uh... I guess if you like that kind of thing, and want yet another one with a fallout paintjob on it?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/05/30/bethesda-announces-brand-new-fallout-game-fallout-76/#1d9a1c432c4b

So based on what people are picking up/deducing, on October 27th you can fight the interface to build crappy bases in West Virginia while thousands of naked idiots with axes try to gank you and steal your stuff.

More news to come at their E3 conference on June 10.


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I kind of hope this isn't true. While many didn't like the changes in FO3 or FO4, I suspect most would rather see more of the same rather than see it spiral further away from a RPG.

Depends how it goes if that is the case. A big problem with a lot of these sandboxy survival type things is crappy graphics, rubbish animations, clunky systems ect. If it's built on the Fallout 4 engine and mechanics then that eliminates a lot of those issues...

On the other hand, can it solve the issues with aggressive players, difficulty of actually getting set up ect?

I kind of like the idea of a shared Fallout 4-esque open world where a few buddies and I can work together on building a society through FO4 settlement mechanics, killing dangerous creatures and dealing with threatening human factions, making the wasteland a safer place. Conversely, I don't like the idea of a more hostile world where every player is out to kill and rob every other one. So a single-player world I can invite some friends into, I can absolutely see myself getting into, a world full of random players who will kill you for your Vault Suit is far less appealing.

An online survival game wouldn't be Fallout, just Rust/ARK/DayZ with a Fallout reskin. I hope it is open world co-opish, but I seriously doubt that it will be.

I think Conan Exiles has non-PvP servers. And I know you can have your own private server for that game. Fallout 76 might do something similar.

Hey a new Fallout game. Maybe they won't screw it up this time.

Oh, its an online survival game? Moving on...

I wonder what the main studio's working on if the rumour it was developed by another is true? Honestly, another Rust style game doesn't sound appealing at all. If they're taking the worst elements out of Fallout 4 and turning them into their own game then I'll have to pass. Settlement building with even less substance in terms of its relation to the plot isn't a great selling factor.

Hmn, I guess a Fallout skin is the only draw it'd have for me. Though that's the only reason I invested time into The Elder Scrolls Online, and I'd argue that's still a crap game (if it didn't have that antithetic then nobody would play it).

Hopefully this won't be the beginning of further dilution of their licenses with these spin off games. The main Fallout and Elder Scrolls series have been becoming more generic with each release, and with this and the other games are made by different studios, it is indicative of the parent company's handling of the licenses.

What's the chances this'll have a cash shop? It is Zenimax...

Voss wrote:
Sounds a bit more like a online survival game like Ark or DayZ.
Which... uh... I guess if you like that kind of thing, and want yet another one with a fallout paintjob on it?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/05/30/bethesda-announces-brand-new-fallout-game-fallout-76/#1d9a1c432c4b

So based on what people are picking up/deducing, on October 27th you can fight the interface to build crappy bases in West Virginia while thousands of naked idiots with axes try to gank you and steal your stuff.

More news to come at their E3 conference on June 10.


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I can of hope this isn't true. While many didn't like the changes in FO3 or FO4, I suspect most would rather see more of the same rather than see it spiral further away from a RPG.

Read the article and thats not what it says at all "Rumours are its built around base building" and "it could have a multiplayer element"

Neither one of those translates into a DayZ kind of game, you had me very very worried there :/

 Formosa wrote:

Voss wrote:
Sounds a bit more like a online survival game like Ark or DayZ.
Which... uh... I guess if you like that kind of thing, and want yet another one with a fallout paintjob on it?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/05/30/bethesda-announces-brand-new-fallout-game-fallout-76/#1d9a1c432c4b

So based on what people are picking up/deducing, on October 27th you can fight the interface to build crappy bases in West Virginia while thousands of naked idiots with axes try to gank you and steal your stuff.

More news to come at their E3 conference on June 10.


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I kind of hope this isn't true. While many didn't like the changes in FO3 or FO4, I suspect most would rather see more of the same rather than see it spiral further away from a RPG.

Read the article and thats not what it says at all "Rumours are its built around base building" and "it could have a multiplayer element"

Neither one of those translates into a DayZ kind of game, you had me very very worried there :/

Read the other one (posted by feeder)- that's what I was responding to with the Dayz comment, rather than an online MMO. I added the Forbes article for another perspective (which also mentions base building and online multiplayer, neither of which are much use in a traditional fallout game). Plus it focuses on the 27th Oct date and the West Virginia song.

here is the Kotaku article feeder posted again: https://kotaku.com/sources-fallout-76-is-an-online-survival-rpg-1826425333

But Fallout 76 is in fact an online survival RPG that’s heavily inspired by games like DayZ and Rust, according to three people familiar with the project.

 Wyrmalla wrote:

What's the chances this'll have a cash shop? It is Zenimax...

Well, technically... it's Bethesda Game Studios and Bethesda Game Studios Austin (formerly Battlecry) game, published by Bethesda Softworks which also publishes titles by Zenimax Online Studios (ie, the ES MMO), and BS is owned by ZeniMax Media (as is Id and Arkane). So 'Zenimax' is two levels up the shell game or not involved at all, depending on which one you're referring to.

Umm.. multiplayer? Yay? It's what I always wanted, right?

I guess it doesn't cost me anything to keep an open mind. If it's cooperative or even has one of those private server thingies as mentioned for Conan (not that I have a clue how any of that works...) it could still be good. But I'm not really interested in PvP.

Not a fan of monthly subscriptions or microtransactions either, which is pretty much unavoidable with online games.

But it's Fallout. If anything were to turn me into an MMO zombie, it's this. I guess.

Voss wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

Voss wrote:
Sounds a bit more like a online survival game like Ark or DayZ.
Which... uh... I guess if you like that kind of thing, and want yet another one with a fallout paintjob on it?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/05/30/bethesda-announces-brand-new-fallout-game-fallout-76/#1d9a1c432c4b

So based on what people are picking up/deducing, on October 27th you can fight the interface to build crappy bases in West Virginia while thousands of naked idiots with axes try to gank you and steal your stuff.

More news to come at their E3 conference on June 10.


--
I kind of hope this isn't true. While many didn't like the changes in FO3 or FO4, I suspect most would rather see more of the same rather than see it spiral further away from a RPG.

Read the article and thats not what it says at all "Rumours are its built around base building" and "it could have a multiplayer element"

Neither one of those translates into a DayZ kind of game, you had me very very worried there :/

Read the other one (posted by feeder)- that's what I was responding to with the Dayz comment, rather than an online MMO. I added the Forbes article for another perspective (which also mentions base building and online multiplayer, neither of which are much use in a traditional fallout game). Plus it focuses on the 27th Oct date and the West Virginia song.

here is the Kotaku article feeder posted again: https://kotaku.com/sources-fallout-76-is-an-online-survival-rpg-1826425333

But Fallout 76 is in fact an online survival RPG that’s heavily inspired by games like DayZ and Rust, according to three people familiar with the project.

 Wyrmalla wrote:

What's the chances this'll have a cash shop? It is Zenimax...

Well, technically... it's Bethesda Game Studios and Bethesda Game Studios Austin (formerly Battlecry) game, published by Bethesda Softworks which also publishes titles by Zenimax Online Studios (ie, the ES MMO), and BS is owned by ZeniMax Media (as is Id and Arkane). So 'Zenimax' is two levels up the shell game or not involved at all, depending on which one you're referring to.

Well.... thats me out then, I HATE those survival games, unless there is a story and single player without all the douche bags ruining my fun, I am not interested.

Voss wrote:


Well, technically... it's Bethesda Game Studios and Bethesda Game Studios Austin (formerly Battlecry) game, published by Bethesda Softworks which also publishes titles by Zenimax Online Studios (ie, the ES MMO), and BS is owned by ZeniMax Media (as is Id and Arkane). So 'Zenimax' is two levels up the shell game or not involved at all, depending on which one you're referring to.

Ah, I assumed that the MMORPG was published by Zenimax and no Bethesda Game Studios. In which case. "What's the chances this'll have a cash shop? It is Bethesda..." - given how full of micro transactions ESO is.

I'll bet my next model purchase that there's a battle royale mode/requirement in order to progress through the settlement construction.

This has got to be one of the bigger disappointments in gaming, at least for me.

I get why they might be doing it though. Though I don't really like this style of game, content is an order of magnitude easier than that of an RPG, where players can quickly tear through everything. Plus this type of game has easy monetization options on top.

The catch is I'm not sure if this game model has hit its peak yet or not. If players are already tired of online survival games, it could fall completely flat. Just hope that they don't come to the wrong conclusion and decide its the fallout license that's played out.

New trailer from Microsoft's E3 conference.



Still not much to go on, but from the looks of this it appears to be very much another slice of Fallout 4. Animations, general art style, armour pieces and such all match what's in FO4. Apparently the map was mentioned at being 4 times larger, which is impressive if true, and it's available for pre-order June 15th.

Still no confirmation as to whether it's an online or a single player thing (or some hybrid of the two) but at the very least, we know it's more open world Fallout rather than a new style of game. And it looks, to me at least, rather glorious.

I’m sure we’ll find out more tonight but I’m getting unduly excited...

I'll admit, the setting sold me on it. They nailed West Virginia.

And the massive coal mines, the 'secret' military base are both really there!

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I’m sure we’ll find out more tonight but I’m getting unduly excited...

Might as well wait til tomorrow. The Bethesda conference is... uh... Loud and shouty? A joke metal meathead piano concert and a pair of... developers? producers? trying to hype up the crowd for rage 2. They're really good at sucking the energy out of the crowd, but not much else.


The trailer is interesting- I suspect Bethesda is a little annoyed MS scooped them on it.


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Actual points:

Online only
Can play solo (story and quests and things)

Foray into multiplayer. "They just had to do it."

Lots of new enemies, some based on West Virginia 'folklore.'

"Softcore survival" [yes. actual quote]
Death isn't loss of progression, or character, character can be moved between 'servers' (which don't behave like servers).

Multiplayer is 'dozens of people'

Bounty system for 'un-neighborly' players


Build where-ever and move what you build.

Buildings are destructible, and critters will show up to wreck them.

Todd Howard is really boring to listen to.

Nuke sites are on the map, and you can nuke people/locations. And you can get 'rare resources' from place you've nuked.

I... have no idea why you'd want to play this with people.
First group with 5+ people in power armor just wins.


Ugh. BETA announcement
Obligatory joke about bugs in Bethesda games. Audience is *dead silent*

Tchokes- glow in the dark map of the region and some cheap plastic toys.


November 14th, this year. Huzzah or something. I'll get excited when its clear how 'single player' it can be, given the multiplayer focus and 'multiplayer is easier' quote.


Also Fallout Shelter on playstations and switches or something.. Woo.