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Are you implying this ISN'T very common these days?
Journalism across the board, on both political ends, need to cut the opinions and unbiasedly report more unfiltered facts.
And PragerU using O'Keefe to say these things doesn't come across as supreme irony/hypocrisy?
Sorry for my spelling. I'm not a native speaker and a dyslexic.
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Are you implying this ISN'T very common these days?
Journalism across the board, on both political ends, need to cut the opinions and unbiasedly report more unfiltered facts.
Do you know who that is?
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A Town Called Malus wrote: Wasn't it O'Keefe who released those altered videos in order to try and claim that planned parenthood was selling foetal tissue for profit?
Yes. Which is why i included them. Them using them as a 'source of quality journalism' is hypocripsy at its finest.
Asherian Command wrote: Neither is police or firemen privatization. The whole idea of someone not arriving even when a house is on fire is hilarious and stupid.
Who said this?
Police and Fire are social institutions they are jobs we need to have. Privatizing them is bad for many reasons and also because nowhere else in the world do we have privatized police and fire.
Again, provide a link where they say that fire and police should be privatized. Far as I can tell, they've never said that. I'd happily concede the point, but you've provided nothing that says that they have called for a privatization of fire and police. I have seen no PragerU video entitled "Why firemen should be privatized".
Except charter schools are not successful
I'd say that's not correct to lump them all as unsuccessful. Some are, some aren't. Same as public schools. What the video talked about was that sometimes charter schools provide opportunity for folks in poorly run school systems to escape that system. And in some cases force public and even private schools to up their game. That's a net benefit for students. The rapid growth of charter schools is a testament to some element of success. There are pro's and con's for sure, but to call them "not successful" is a stretch. They have no video entitled, as you claim, "Why public schools are terrible, you should go charter".
And Rationalwiki? Really?
I think a lot of your criticisms of PragerU stem from them just having beliefs that don't mesh with yours.
Did... did you just ignore the entire point of my post?
People use Wikipedia as a source, I used the rational wiki. Yeah, they have a slant on him, but the point is all those have actual sources. If you don't want to read what the leader and founder of PragerU is then that is on you and your argument.
I even posted things which are directly FROM their facebook discrediting the idea I am attacking them because they are 'right' leaning when clearly they have nonsensical arguments which you left out in the discussion you just cherry picked my argument to support your own theory. Which is wrong. I am attacking their hypocrisy as most of their points are not salient or interesting. Merely listing them as an example is not the whole point or crux of the argument.
Privatization clearly works in certain areas, but charter schools are a clear BUSINESS interest to PragerU.
Ignoring who runs it and saying "Oh well they are just trying to educate people." Is misleading. Their goal is to mislead.
That is their point they are just propaganda at this point. Debating and removing historical contexts to issues or not looking at it from a neutral perspective. PragerU slants and misleads people into thinking.
To answer: No Charter schools are not super successful they haven't because they are there for people with money. Some people do not have those opportunities to pay for charter schools or could make it into one. The waiting for Superman documentary's whole purpose was to gloss over and demonify public schools. That is what PragerU was doing as well to mislead entirely on the success of public learning and college learning. Because they are against that.
They use pseudo-intellectuals and sub-par graphics to entice you into belief. They whirl you with the presentation but none of it is true. They are cherry-picked factoids devoid of their actual context.
So no, I am not against them cause they are 'rightwing' I am a traditionalist but I lean left and right. (Social Democrat, Consertative when it comes to states rights). I am against them cause they are propagandists. Does that make sense to you?
Now provide the links to the “classic videos” of “Why Firemen should be privatized” and the “Public schools are trash, go charter”.
Maybe you misremembered, or just projected your own dislike of their videos and dreamt up alternate titles that are barely ancillary to the topic of the videos. It happens.
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Now provide the links to the “classic videos” of “Why Firemen should be privatized” and the “Public schools are trash, go charter”.
Maybe you misremembered, or just projected your own dislike of their videos and dreamt up alternate titles that are barely ancillary to the topic of the videos. It happens.
Are you implying this ISN'T very common these days?
Journalism across the board, on both political ends, need to cut the opinions and unbiasedly report more unfiltered facts.
It has never really been different though: Media have always been highly biased, and they will likely remain so forever. Turns out we people find it very difficult to remain impartial on subjects we care about, and journalists and editors are no exceptions to that. I wouldn't hope for this to change too much. It is something you just have to get around by always using a wide variety of sources with different viewpoints and biases, and you always need to be mindful of these biases when reading something.
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Ouze wrote: It's interesting that they always talk about privatizing the USPS, but never the Pentagon, despite the fact there is a clear and unambiguous direction in the constitution to run a postal service and sweet feth-all about a gigantic, permanent standing army.
It doesn't say there must be, or even should be a Post Office. It just guarantees the rights to be able to open post offices.
It doesn't guarantee your right to buy , sell, or manufacture guns, it just guarantees your right to own one.
See, this is where the crazy starts. The US postal system effectively predates the 'US' part of it's name, and the major issue with it is that it's been gutted and kneecapped to the point that it went from a profitable operation by the government to one that's in debt up to it's eyeballs.
Remember, when they found out the helium reserve was making money, it had to be disbanded and sold off immediately. Same gak over and over, government must be FORCED to be unprofitable. Otherwise the old narrative from the republicans about how government was bad didn't sell.
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Ouze wrote: It's interesting that they always talk about privatizing the USPS, but never the Pentagon, despite the fact there is a clear and unambiguous direction in the constitution to run a postal service and sweet feth-all about a gigantic, permanent standing army.
It doesn't say there must be, or even should be a Post Office. It just guarantees the rights to be able to open post offices.
The argument that the constitution empowered the federal government to create a postal service and designate roads for exactly that, but didn't think they should actually do that is utterly terrible even by the standards of the OT and you should feel bad for making it.
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Ouze wrote: What an American success story - from running over a puppy with a tank to selling our your country as an apologist for a hostile foreign power. Shine on, Steven Seagal.
It's worse than that, if you've watched his more recent films.
Seagal's great strength was always his hand speed, but he doesn't even do that anymore.
He has a stuntman to do the quick hands, and the camera totally zooms in to hide the fact that it ain't Seagal.
You know who else went to Russia? Lee Harvey Oswald.
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Well new is the admission. Wonder how story changes next. Next admits he knew of meeting in advance? Then say he ordered the contact with russians? But it's all fine and legal of course eh?
Ouze wrote: What an American success story - from running over a puppy with a tank to selling our your country as an apologist for a hostile foreign power. Shine on, Steven Seagal.
It's worse than that, if you've watched his more recent films.
Seagal's great strength was always his hand speed, but he doesn't even do that anymore.
He has a stuntman to do the quick hands, and the camera totally zooms in to hide the fact that it ain't Seagal.
You know who else went to Russia? Lee Harvey Oswald.
What are you implying with that? That Steven Seagal is going to assassinate Trump? Now that is a Seagal movie I'd like to watch to be honest... Also, technically, Oswald lived in Belarus, not Russia.
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It would be the most boring movie ever, considering Trump is the example of fitness we should all strive for according to Ronnie and Seagal is Seagal Plus if Seagal actually beat Trump would people go and see it? I'm taking a wild guess here, Seagal fans probably heavily overlap with Trump fans these years.
Sorry for my spelling. I'm not a native speaker and a dyslexic.
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Disciple of Fate wrote: It would be the most boring movie ever, considering Trump is the example of fitness we should all strive for according to Ronnie and Seagal is Seagal Plus if Seagal actually beat Trump would people go and see it? I'm taking a wild guess here, Seagal fans probably heavily overlap with Trump fans these years.
which is weird considering Seagal's body of work traditionally consisted of environmentally themed anticorporate moralistic action flicks
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Disciple of Fate wrote: It would be the most boring movie ever, considering Trump is the example of fitness we should all strive for according to Ronnie and Seagal is Seagal Plus if Seagal actually beat Trump would people go and see it? I'm taking a wild guess here, Seagal fans probably heavily overlap with Trump fans these years.
which is weird considering Seagal's body of work traditionally consisted of environmentally themed anticorporate moralistic action flicks
It certainly gives a twilight zone feel to the movie in which he fights an evil oil company
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Meanwhile, nobody else in the world is doing so, which is what forced Iran to the table in the first place.
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Meanwhile, nobody else in the world is doing so, which is what forced Iran to the table in the first place.
The EU is adopting the policy of helping EU companies hurt by the sanctions (not mentioned, but I wonder about the approach) and banning them from complying with US measures, the Cuba approach. The US has barely any trade with Iran, you have got to wonder what leverage it has doing this.
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Meanwhile, nobody else in the world is doing so, which is what forced Iran to the table in the first place.
The EU is adopting the policy of helping EU companies hurt by the sanctions (not mentioned, but I wonder about the approach) and banning them from complying with US measures, the Cuba approach. The US has barely any trade with Iran, you have got to wonder what leverage it has doing this.
As with everything trump does, it's more of a show for his base than any real effect.
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Meanwhile, nobody else in the world is doing so, which is what forced Iran to the table in the first place.
The EU is adopting the policy of helping EU companies hurt by the sanctions (not mentioned, but I wonder about the approach) and banning them from complying with US measures, the Cuba approach. The US has barely any trade with Iran, you have got to wonder what leverage it has doing this.
If it's the same, original sanctions*... this may be problematic as the original sanctions essentially told international businesses "you can trade with Iran, or you can trade with the US... but, not both".
The sanctions on international banking does has serious bite.
*I'm assuming it's the same as publications are referring it to "snap back sanctions"... but, I've yet to see what the actual sanctions, so this could indeed be all bark and no bite.
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Meanwhile, nobody else in the world is doing so, which is what forced Iran to the table in the first place.
The EU is adopting the policy of helping EU companies hurt by the sanctions (not mentioned, but I wonder about the approach) and banning them from complying with US measures, the Cuba approach. The US has barely any trade with Iran, you have got to wonder what leverage it has doing this.
If it's the same, original sanctions*... this may be problematic as the original sanctions essentially told international businesses "you can trade with Iran, or you can trade with the US... but, not both".
The sanctions on international banking does has serious bite.
*I'm assuming it's the same as publications are referring it to "snap back sanctions"... but, I've yet to see what the actual sanctions, so this could indeed be all bark and no bite.
Last time the US tried to do that over Cuba, EU retaliatory measures forced the US to back down. The EU could take the US to trade court again over WTO violations by doing this for Iran.
Sorry for my spelling. I'm not a native speaker and a dyslexic.
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Meanwhile, nobody else in the world is doing so, which is what forced Iran to the table in the first place.
The EU is adopting the policy of helping EU companies hurt by the sanctions (not mentioned, but I wonder about the approach) and banning them from complying with US measures, the Cuba approach. The US has barely any trade with Iran, you have got to wonder what leverage it has doing this.
If it's the same, original sanctions*... this may be problematic as the original sanctions essentially told international businesses "you can trade with Iran, or you can trade with the US... but, not both".
The sanctions on international banking does has serious bite.
*I'm assuming it's the same as publications are referring it to "snap back sanctions"... but, I've yet to see what the actual sanctions, so this could indeed be all bark and no bite.
Last time the US tried to do that over Cuba, EU retaliatory measures forced the US to back down. The EU could take the US to trade court again over WTO violations by doing this for Iran.
The positions between US and EU is basically "damned if they do business with Iran and damned if they don’t?" This may backfire on the EU if they begin to penalize US-based companies who might decide to relocate away from the EU to escape their jurisdiction. Or, (and?)It could just as easily backfire on the US isolating them from key allies. I find it amazballs that the EU routinely handwaves Iranian's refusal to allow inspections at key military facilities. Additionally to continually ignore Iranian's funding of armed groups in Yemen, providing Bashar al-Assad with military support, as well as providing material support for Hezbollah and Hamas. They have also continued to develop their missile systems, including long-range weapons that put US/EU/Israel's interests at risk. They haven’t even released or accounted for all of the Americans held by their regime. I mean, its really tough to say that the deal changed anything, except providing the mullah regimes a mulligan in the international stage .
Meanwhile, nobody else in the world is doing so, which is what forced Iran to the table in the first place.
The EU is adopting the policy of helping EU companies hurt by the sanctions (not mentioned, but I wonder about the approach) and banning them from complying with US measures, the Cuba approach. The US has barely any trade with Iran, you have got to wonder what leverage it has doing this.
If it's the same, original sanctions*... this may be problematic as the original sanctions essentially told international businesses "you can trade with Iran, or you can trade with the US... but, not both".
The sanctions on international banking does has serious bite.
*I'm assuming it's the same as publications are referring it to "snap back sanctions"... but, I've yet to see what the actual sanctions, so this could indeed be all bark and no bite.
Last time the US tried to do that over Cuba, EU retaliatory measures forced the US to back down. The EU could take the US to trade court again over WTO violations by doing this for Iran.
The positions between US and EU is basically "damned if they do business with Iran and damned if they don’t?" This may backfire on the EU if they begin to penalize US-based companies who might decide to relocate away from the EU to escape their jurisdiction. Or, (and?)It could just as easily backfire on the US isolating them from key allies. I find it amazballs that the EU routinely handwaves Iranian's refusal to allow inspections at key military facilities. Additionally to continually ignore Iranian's funding of armed groups in Yemen, providing Bashar al-Assad with military support, as well as providing material support for Hezbollah and Hamas. They have also continued to develop their missile systems, including long-range weapons that put US/EU/Israel's interests at risk. They haven’t even released or accounted for all of the Americans held by their regime. I mean, its really tough to say that the deal changed anything, except providing the mullah regimes a mulligan in the international stage .
You do realize its also about sanctioning the US as a whole if the US pressures EU companies? This would probably end up in front of the WTO too. The US's one man crusade should be careful not to damage relations with key allies over this stupidity. As for handwaving, when the US gives full access to its enemies maybe its comparable, as a country that routinely ignores the rules you shouldn't keep adding new ones to existing deals, all signs pointed towards Iran holding up their end. But we all know it was because of Obama, the Trump admin has no problem trying to hold onto a worse 'deal' for NK.
As for Hezbollah, Yemen and Syria, perhaps people in Saudi/Pakistani houses shouldn't throw stones. You know what won't stop Iran from supporting terrorism? Treating them like an international pariah. Iran could be a valuable regional ally, but instead the US drives it further and further into the arms of Russia and China to appease little Bibi. The tail is doing some fine work on that dog.
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