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2018/06/26 19:41:28
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Director- Ben Stiller
Star- Ben Stiller
Costar- Charlie Day
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What I ask is for Ben Stiller to make Tropic Thunder in Space. I think he will deliver. Bonus points if he can somehow incorporate Dave Bautista.
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2018/06/26 22:17:05
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Kilkrazy wrote: Kenneth Williams would be awesome as the Immortal God-Emporer.
I don't think you need to see the Immortal God-Emperor in a 40k movie it would be wasted screen time to show a corpse who can't make any actions, he would be better referenced through dialogue or an opening crawl.
Kenneth Williams doesn't make actions, he makes snide comments in Polari, and he's dead. I think he will be great for a lot of scenes.
Cheesecat wrote: With 40k do you do hammy acting cause it's an absurd world to begin with or do you play it straight? I kind of love the campy voice acting in the Dawn of War games, so I always associate 40k with a certain level of cheese.
40k without ham and cheese is not 40k anymore.
So a 40k movie would need a director and actors that can deliver hammy lines convincingly. If you don't have actors that can do it proper, it just becomes a cringefest.
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2018/06/26 22:51:22
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Michael Bay would be perfect, it's exactly his type of movie, he can make it a lot of money and lots of explosions!
Quickest way to kill a film franchise...
Transformer didn't kill the Transformer series.
Transformer 2 didn't kill the Transformer series.
Transformer 3 didn't kill the Transformer series.
Transformer 4 didn't kill the Transformer series.
Transformer 5 didn't kill the Transformer series.
Transformer 6 isn't out yet but if it kills the series, it will be because it wasn't directed by Michael Bay .
I used to not like Michael Bay, but then I watched that video and it changed my mind forever!
NSFW language I guess?
Spoiler:
It didn't kill Transformers but it still sucked.
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Strg Alt wrote: Director: Quentin Tarantino
Stars: CharlizeTheron & Gina Carano as a lesbian Callidus assasin couple.
Plot: An outpost of the SOB has been corrupted by the vile influence of Slaanesh. Our two brave heroines must unravel the mysteries of this lustful sanctuary as they dive deeper and deeper and deeper into it´s unholy depths. There they will learn that love really hurts...
What to expect? Movie shot in glorious black/white. Main protagonists don´t eat anything in the movie. Instead they drink the 40K equivalent of wodka and smoke lho sticks in a lascivious manner. They kick ass in their beloved high-heels so be prepared to see lots of dislocations, knee strikes, SGPs and triangle chokes. Ah, one thing has also to be included: Frequent discharges of various firearms.
And what part does play Quentin? He is the gimp of the sister superior and his face serves as her footrest.
I'm not sure Slaanesh anything is a good idea for introducing the universe as I could see audience members who have no understanding of the universe would think it's some weird pervert sex fantasy, plus you're allowing new audience members to mainly associate 40k with rape and sex
Kilkrazy wrote: Kenneth Williams would be awesome as the Immortal God-Emporer.
I don't think you need to see the Immortal God-Emperor in a 40k movie it would be wasted screen time to show a corpse who can't make any actions, he would be better referenced through dialogue or an opening crawl.
Kenneth Williams doesn't make actions, he makes snide comments in Polari, and he's dead. I think he will be great for a lot of scenes.
That still doesn't address my issue of wasted screen time, as none of that sounds like it would move a plot in a 40k universe in any meaningful way but, I know you're just joke posting anyways.
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2018/06/26 23:06:04
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Cheesecat wrote: It didn't kill Transformers but it still sucked.
Yes but it made money. Are you anti-capitalist?
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2018/06/26 23:32:24
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Cheesecat wrote: It didn't kill Transformers but it still sucked.
Yes but it made money. Are you anti-capitalist?
No, but I don't watch a movie that made a lot of money because it made a lot of money that doesn't make a movie exciting, I watch movie that I think will be good or has an interesting premise. I've never gone "Look at all this money that movie made, I want to watch it now." that's not me.
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2018/06/27 02:14:31
Subject: Re:Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Cheesecat wrote: With 40k do you do hammy acting cause it's an absurd world to begin with or do you play it straight? I kind of love the campy voice acting in the Dawn of War games, so I always associate 40k with a certain level of cheese.
I think there's a wry, self-aware happy medium between po-faced Wardian guff and the kind of "Ministry of Funny Walks/Dead Parrot Routine" absurdity some people insist is the only appropriate tone(the "It's fictional, so it can't ever be taken even a tiny bit seriously or I might have to acknowledge I play with toy soldiers in a manner other than affected irony" crowd).
TBH I think the issue is less who shouldn't but who should, or could. I can't really think of any mainstream directors or well-known actors who'd be a really good fit, everyone that comes to mind would end up either doing a Nolanesque "gritty reboot", or a Carry On-level farce, or be "subversive" and make some noblebright pish.
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2018/06/27 02:50:23
Subject: Re:Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Regardless of your feelings on TLJ, Rian Johnson directed Looper, Brick, and some of the best episodes of Breaking Bad. The idea he's on Michael Bay's level is pants on head.
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2018/06/27 06:22:12
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Michael Bay would be perfect, it's exactly his type of movie, he can make it a lot of money and lots of explosions!
Quickest way to kill a film franchise...
Transformer didn't kill the Transformer series.
Transformer 2 didn't kill the Transformer series.
Transformer 3 didn't kill the Transformer series.
Transformer 4 didn't kill the Transformer series.
Transformer 5 didn't kill the Transformer series.
Transformer 6 isn't out yet but if it kills the series, it will be because it wasn't directed by Michael Bay .
I used to not like Michael Bay, but then I watched that video and it changed my mind forever!
NSFW language I guess?
Spoiler:
It didn't kill Transformers but it still sucked.
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Strg Alt wrote: Director: Quentin Tarantino
Stars: CharlizeTheron & Gina Carano as a lesbian Callidus assasin couple.
Plot: An outpost of the SOB has been corrupted by the vile influence of Slaanesh. Our two brave heroines must unravel the mysteries of this lustful sanctuary as they dive deeper and deeper and deeper into it´s unholy depths. There they will learn that love really hurts...
What to expect? Movie shot in glorious black/white. Main protagonists don´t eat anything in the movie. Instead they drink the 40K equivalent of wodka and smoke lho sticks in a lascivious manner. They kick ass in their beloved high-heels so be prepared to see lots of dislocations, knee strikes, SGPs and triangle chokes. Ah, one thing has also to be included: Frequent discharges of various firearms.
And what part does play Quentin? He is the gimp of the sister superior and his face serves as her footrest.
I'm not sure Slaanesh anything is a good idea for introducing the universe as I could see audience members who have no understanding of the universe would think it's some weird pervert sex fantasy, plus you're allowing new audience members to mainly associate 40k with rape and sex
Kilkrazy wrote: Kenneth Williams would be awesome as the Immortal God-Emporer.
I don't think you need to see the Immortal God-Emperor in a 40k movie it would be wasted screen time to show a corpse who can't make any actions, he would be better referenced through dialogue or an opening crawl.
Kenneth Williams doesn't make actions, he makes snide comments in Polari, and he's dead. I think he will be great for a lot of scenes.
That still doesn't address my issue of wasted screen time, as none of that sounds like it would move a plot in a 40k universe in any meaningful way but, I know you're just joke posting anyways.
Quentin is directing. So violence & sex are the main topics here.
2018/06/27 06:22:50
Subject: Re:Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Ouze wrote: Regardless of your feelings on TLJ, Rian Johnson directed Looper, Brick, and some of the best episodes of Breaking Bad. The idea he's on Michael Bay's level is pants on head.
I'm not denying his talent, heck anyone that can churn out a decent flick with the living drag factor that is modern Bruce Willis clearly has something, and if he thought grumpy Star Wars fan's are harsh they are but spoilt younglings to the tiny minority of rabidly frothy 40k'ers nutjobs
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2018/06/27 09:53:04
Subject: Re:Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Cheesecat wrote: With 40k do you do hammy acting cause it's an absurd world to begin with or do you play it straight? I kind of love the campy voice acting in the Dawn of War games, so I always associate 40k with a certain level of cheese.
I think there's a wry, self-aware happy medium between po-faced Wardian guff and the kind of "Ministry of Funny Walks/Dead Parrot Routine" absurdity some people insist is the only appropriate tone(the "It's fictional, so it can't ever be taken even a tiny bit seriously or I might have to acknowledge I play with toy soldiers in a manner other than affected irony" crowd).
TBH I think the issue is less who shouldn't but who should, or could. I can't really think of any mainstream directors or well-known actors who'd be a really good fit, everyone that comes to mind would end up either doing a Nolanesque "gritty reboot", or a Carry On-level farce, or be "subversive" and make some noblebright pish.
I think Denis Villeneuve would be best as he can create Sci-Fi worlds that look lived in and believable.
2018/06/27 13:27:03
Subject: Re:Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Ouze wrote: Regardless of your feelings on TLJ, Rian Johnson directed Looper, Brick, and some of the best episodes of Breaking Bad. The idea he's on Michael Bay's level is pants on head.
Wasn’t Looper that other turd of a movie that had Hayden Christiansen jumping through loops in time and space? Yeah, that sucked too. Worse than Bay.
I stand corrected with a quick google search. I have not seen his other works. But killing Star Wars for me makes me refuse to see any of his other works. Also basically makes him the Anti-Christ of cinema.
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2018/06/27 14:14:10
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
No, Brian Blessed would be chapter master of the Hawk Lords and personally lead the jump pack assault marines.
Or, he could be a Swooping Hawk phoenix lord.
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2018/06/27 14:29:49
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
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Nononono... you're missing the point. Brian Blessed is awesome, and an exceedingly good actor - there's heaps of roles that he would be fantastically suited to in 40k. The point of this thread is to find mismatches, isn't it?
2018/06/27 15:13:23
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Graphite wrote: Nononono... you're missing the point. Brian Blessed is awesome, and an exceedingly good actor - there's heaps of roles that he would be fantastically suited to in 40k. The point of this thread is to find mismatches, isn't it?
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2018/06/27 16:53:15
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Cheesecat wrote: No, but I don't watch a movie that made a lot of money because it made a lot of money that doesn't make a movie exciting, I watch movie that I think will be good or has an interesting premise. I've never gone "Look at all this money that movie made, I want to watch it now." that's not me.
I'm an anticapitalist too !
More seriously, I guess the question is do you want a successful 40k movie or a 40k movie that caters to your tastes.
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2018/06/27 17:39:23
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
If 6' John Rhys-Davies can play Gimli the dwarf, I don't think Com Truise as a 7' Marine is a stretch. He's got a lot of experience as a fanatical cultist already.
I'd like to see Frankie Boyle as a heretical Rogue Trader. He's definitely got the right mindset for it. See his recent absurd, hysterical and sometimes unsettling closing monologues on his "New World Order" show.
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2018/06/27 17:58:46
Subject: Re:Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Cheesecat wrote: With 40k do you do hammy acting cause it's an absurd world to begin with or do you play it straight? I kind of love the campy voice acting in the Dawn of War games, so I always associate 40k with a certain level of cheese.
40k without ham and cheese is not 40k anymore.
So a 40k movie would need a director and actors that can deliver hammy lines convincingly. If you don't have actors that can do it proper, it just becomes a cringefest.
Someone call Jeremy Irons!
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2018/06/27 18:44:06
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Cheesecat wrote: It didn't kill Transformers but it still sucked.
Yes but it made money. Are you anti-capitalist?
No, but I don't watch a movie that made a lot of money because it made a lot of money that doesn't make a movie exciting, I watch movie that I think will be good or has an interesting premise. I've never gone "Look at all this money that movie made, I want to watch it now." that's not me.
I watched Transformers because I wanted to watch giant robots fight each other, so they all pretty much delivered on that front for me.
I don't think I would watch a 40K movie for any weird social commentary or complex story telling. I would watch it for bolter porn.
2018/06/27 20:10:02
Subject: Re:Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Cheesecat wrote: With 40k do you do hammy acting cause it's an absurd world to begin with or do you play it straight? I kind of love the campy voice acting in the Dawn of War games, so I always associate 40k with a certain level of cheese.
40k without ham and cheese is not 40k anymore.
So a 40k movie would need a director and actors that can deliver hammy lines convincingly. If you don't have actors that can do it proper, it just becomes a cringefest.
Someone call Jeremy Irons!
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2018/06/27 21:12:34
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
I guess just about anyone who's both British and grumpy could work.. but all the actors I like best are too old to be super soliders.. Anthony Hopkins, Ian McKlellan, Patrick Stewart, Brian Cox. Maybe one of em could be an old inquisitor? Do Inquisitors even live long enough to become old?
2018/06/27 21:23:22
Subject: Who shouldn’t direct or star in a potential 40k movie?
Cheesecat wrote: It didn't kill Transformers but it still sucked.
Yes but it made money. Are you anti-capitalist?
No, but I don't watch a movie that made a lot of money because it made a lot of money that doesn't make a movie exciting, I watch movie that I think will be good or has an interesting premise. I've never gone "Look at all this money that movie made, I want to watch it now." that's not me.
I watched Transformers because I wanted to watch giant robots fight each other, so they all pretty much delivered on that front for me.
But it's watching robots fight in some of the worse action cinematography in recent memory, there's so much gak happening on the screen I can't even see what's going on so it fails as action schlock for me.
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Necros wrote: Do Inquisitors even live long enough to become old?
Cheesecat wrote: No, but I don't watch a movie that made a lot of money because it made a lot of money that doesn't make a movie exciting, I watch movie that I think will be good or has an interesting premise. I've never gone "Look at all this money that movie made, I want to watch it now." that's not me.
I'm an anticapitalist too !
More seriously, I guess the question is do you want a successful 40k movie or a 40k movie that caters to your tastes.
I never said I was anti-capitalist you're literally putting words in mouth, ideally I would want a 40k movie that is respectful to the IP, is actually good and hopefully makes money, I don't know if any of that is possible though.
Ouze wrote: Regardless of your feelings on TLJ, Rian Johnson directed Looper, Brick, and some of the best episodes of Breaking Bad. The idea he's on Michael Bay's level is pants on head.
Wasn’t Looper that other turd of a movie that had Hayden Christiansen jumping through loops in time and space? Yeah, that sucked too. Worse than Bay.
I stand corrected with a quick google search. I have not seen his other works. But killing Star Wars for me makes me refuse to see any of his other works. Also basically makes him the Anti-Christ of cinema.
You're thinking of another movie, Looper is a Sc-Fi thriller starring Bruce Willis and Joseph Gordon-Levitt that involves contracted killers (called "Loopers") that use time travel to kill their victims.
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