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 bullyboy wrote:
This will probably get shot down but I just don't get it. Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Harlequins all released with zero new models, but we get new GC models? Is GC seriously more popular than the Eldar line? Just bewildered really.

It's not about that.

3rd through 7th were all the same basic rules base, just updated over and over again. 8th Ed is a completely new rules base. The release of 8th Ed rendered everything before it incompatible. The priority for GW was getting the new codices out as soon as possible so that people had proper rules to play with and so they wouldn't have to live with the stop-gap tide-you-over indices forever.

This is why we've seen so many codices released in such a short space of time. Remember that 8th Ed just reached its first anniversary. In that time we've had:

Codex: Space Marines**
Codex: Blood Angels
Codex: Dark Angels
Codex: Grey Knights
Codex: Deathwatch
Codex: Tau Empire
Codex: Imperial Guard
Codex: Imperial Knights**
Codex: Necrons
Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus
Codex: Chaos Daemons
Codex: Adeptus Custodes*
Codex: Craftworld Eldar
Codex: Harlequins
Codex: Drew Carey
Codex: Tyranids
Codex: Chaos Space Marines
Codex: Death Guard*
Codex: Thousand Sons**

That's 19 books in 12 months. Plus everything Age of Sigmarines has received (including, now, it's own 2nd Edition), plus the relaunch of Necromunda, Shadespire, and a bunch of other things.

Did you ever think that each of these books would see a major miniature release? Did you think GW had the capacity for such a thing?


*Major release.
**Large release on top of an existing miniature line.

 bullyboy wrote:
This will probably get shot down but I just don't get it. Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Harlequins all released with zero new models, but we get new GC models? Is GC seriously more popular than the Eldar line? Just bewildered really.

By that logic, GW should never make new models for anything other than Space Mari-

Oh, right.

 bullyboy wrote:
This will probably get shot down but I just don't get it. Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Harlequins all released with zero new models, but we get new GC models? Is GC seriously more popular than the Eldar line? Just bewildered really.

Are there units in those codices for which there are no models currently being sold? I ask because I legitimately don't know, and assume that's part of the reason they released a new kit for aberrants. The Primus, well, maybe to add a bit more flavor to the army. Tie-ins to other games like Kill Team may also make sense. Perhaps they have it "figured out" and it's more profitable to sell new models than to replace previously existing kits in their line?

 bullyboy wrote:
This will probably get shot down but I just don't get it. Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Harlequins all released with zero new models, but we get new GC models? Is GC seriously more popular than the Eldar line? Just bewildered really.

We recently had Yvraine and the 2 others in the box set. Eldar are pretty well fleshed out atm and you can make sizable varied armies, with only Harlequins being on the low 'unit' count. GSC arent necessarily more popular, that doesnt really determine the choice to make new models for them. Aberrants have only been available through DW:OK until now. There is always this, ' I can't believe someone else's army got more stuff and mine didn't' thing going around. What makes it bewildering to you?

 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
Perhaps they have it "figured out" and it's more profitable to sell new models than to replace previously existing kits in their line?

Which is a damned shame, because it means we still have things like these kicking around long after they should have been replaced by new plastic kits.

hope we get more than aberrants and a new character

 bullyboy wrote:
This will probably get shot down but I just don't get it. Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Harlequins all released with zero new models, but we get new GC models? Is GC seriously more popular than the Eldar line? Just bewildered really.

Popularity likely isn't the issue. The issue likely is that GSC is considered a less fleshed out faction so far.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Popularity likely isn't the issue. The issue likely is that GSC is considered a less fleshed out faction so far.

Ironically, harlies got only 6 kits, including blisters, 8 if you consider the alternate dataslates.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
This will probably get shot down but I just don't get it. Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Harlequins all released with zero new models, but we get new GC models? Is GC seriously more popular than the Eldar line? Just bewildered really.

Popularity likely isn't the issue. The issue likely is that GSC is considered a less fleshed out faction so far.

Harlequins really could have used a character on a skyweaver or some other vehicle unit. Eldar really need new Aspect warriors....badly. Dark Eldar also need more HQ choices, especially with the patrol special rules they have.


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Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for GC players and the minis look great. I'm just shocked that Aeldari got zero love except a very useless Webway Gate, especially with the popularity of the line.

 bullyboy wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for GC players and the minis look great. I'm just shocked that Aeldari got zero love except a very useless Webway Gate, especially with the popularity of the line.

Again, it's got nothing to do with popularity and everything to do with getting as many books out as quickly as possible.

So, genestealers are new too?

They're just the current ones with a more GSC paint job, I think.

Back left of that pic looks like a very tall neophyte....??

I have to agree with previous comments that being a harlequins and genestealer cult player, both armies could do with fleshing out a little... can't complain thpugh the harlequin codex is awesome, very true to fluff.

 bullyboy wrote:
This will probably get shot down but I just don't get it. Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Harlequins all released with zero new models, but we get new GC models? Is GC seriously more popular than the Eldar line? Just bewildered really.

No (although they just might be as there has been a lot of positive response to the line, and they were reasonably competive especially with the first interpretation of the Cult Ambush rule)

but most likely is that they just don't have that many kits and by releasing an aberrant unit they can discontinue Deathwatch Overkill which is a very cheap source of GSC stuff

Seems like Deathwatch: Overkill has already been discontinued.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for GC players and the minis look great. I'm just shocked that Aeldari got zero love except a very useless Webway Gate, especially with the popularity of the line.

Again, it's got nothing to do with popularity and everything to do with getting as many books out as quickly as possible.

so, why not a GC book with no models? The comment just doesn't make a lot of sense.

 bullyboy wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
This will probably get shot down but I just don't get it. Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Harlequins all released with zero new models, but we get new GC models? Is GC seriously more popular than the Eldar line? Just bewildered really.

Popularity likely isn't the issue. The issue likely is that GSC is considered a less fleshed out faction so far.

Harlequins really could have used a character on a skyweaver or some other vehicle unit. Eldar really need new Aspect warriors....badly. Dark Eldar also need more HQ choices, especially with the patrol special rules they have.

A lot of armies could have used a lot of things.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for GC players and the minis look great. I'm just shocked that Aeldari got zero love except a very useless Webway Gate, especially with the popularity of the line.

Because they got the Triumvirate of Ynnead, plastic Eldrad, the whole Harlequin line, and now the Webway Gate within the same timeframe as it's taken the GSC to get a popular kit(Aberrants) to see general release outside of a board game.

Look, I get it. You want some love for the Eldar. I wanted a Skitarii HQ and some rejigged Guard Veterans. I didn't get either of those things.
We know Ynnari are slated to get a Codex at some point. They've mentioned this multiple times. It's more likely than not that whenever Ynnari get their book, it will have multifaction kits in there.


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 ImAGeek wrote:
Seems like Deathwatch: Overkill has already been discontinued.

Bwhahahaha!

What is Codex Drew Carey?

 Kanluwen wrote:
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We know Ynnari are slated to get a Codex at some point. They've mentioned this multiple times. It's more likely than not that whenever Ynnari get their book, it will have multifaction kits in

 ImAGeek wrote:
Seems like Deathwatch: Overkill has already been discontinued.

Bwhahahaha!

As in, it looks like it has been for a while - I can't find a copy of it on any of my usual sites and it says no longer available online on GW. I dunno how long it's been like that though.

Davor wrote:
What is Codex Drew Carey?

Drukari (Dark Eldar). Been a running joke since they changed the name.

 EnTyme wrote:

Davor wrote:
What is Codex Drew Carey?

Drukari (Dark Eldar). Been a running joke since they changed the name.

Thank you. I never seen it replied to as that.

Davor wrote:
What is Codex Drew Carey?

A stupid American joke that was never funny.


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 bullyboy wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for GC players and the minis look great. I'm just shocked that Aeldari got zero love except a very useless Webway Gate, especially with the popularity of the line.

Again, it's got nothing to do with popularity and everything to do with getting as many books out as quickly as possible.

so, why not a GC book with no models? The comment just doesn't make a lot of sense.

Have you ever considered the real reason is that Aberrants are currently only available in the DW:O box? It's a unit that needs a separate release because there's no current way to reasonably get them, unlike every unit in the Aeldari line. What makes it harder is that parts for Aberrants were spread out over multiple sprues with other units in the box set so they've had to design new spures for them and it seems they've thrown in a new sculpt or two as well, which is probably better than buying them in 4's.

 bullyboy wrote:
This will probably get shot down but I just don't get it. Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Harlequins all released with zero new models, but we get new GC models? Is GC seriously more popular than the Eldar line? Just bewildered really.

Not so much more popular, as that they have a tiny model line.

No special characters, Abberants only available in Deathwatch Overkill. A lot of their units are just repainted Guard.

Iirc they have the following

4 HQ- patriarch, magus, primus, iconward
2 troops - neophytes and acolytes
3 elite - pure strain stealers, abberants, metamorphs
1 fast attack - sentinels
2 transports - chimera and Goliath truck
2 heavy support - Goliath rockgrinders and leman Russ
0 flyers
0 superheavy
0 fortifications

Pretty thin model line there, so yes a few more models are in order.


Eldar have a much larger model line, though I won’t argue that they could use updated models for a good chunk of their range.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
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We know Ynnari are slated to get a Codex at some point. They've mentioned this multiple times. It's more likely than not that whenever Ynnari get their book, it will have multifaction kits in

 ImAGeek wrote:
Seems like Deathwatch: Overkill has already been discontinued.

Bwhahahaha!

As in, it looks like it has been for a while - I can't find a copy of it on any of my usual sites and it says no longer available online on GW. I dunno how long it's been like that though.

it has been a while, about a year I think.

 sockwithaticket wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
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We know Ynnari are slated to get a Codex at some point. They've mentioned this multiple times. It's more likely than not that whenever Ynnari get their book, it will have multifaction kits in

 ImAGeek wrote:
Seems like Deathwatch: Overkill has already been discontinued.

Bwhahahaha!

As in, it looks like it has been for a while - I can't find a copy of it on any of my usual sites and it says no longer available online on GW. I dunno how long it's been like that though.

it has been a while, about a year I think.

Random tidbit of info, warhammer world had a couple of copies on the shelf when I was there last week

My local GW store has 3 or 4 boxes on there shelves and some online websites have a few in stock as well.

Cults of all flavours are going to be the next big thing apparently.

 bullyboy wrote:
so, why not a GC book with no models? The comment just doesn't make a lot of sense.

Because these are coming out before the Codex, likely in conjunction with the new Kill Team.

zamerion wrote:

Spoiler:

 xttz wrote:

Sunny Side Up wrote:

No. They already had other teasers for Genestealer Cult on Warhammer Community and the Codex is also set to drop soon.

Everything points to Genestealer Cult being the next sizable 40K release after, likely, mostly miniature-less (bar an Upgrade sprue or so) Space Wolves/Orks mixed into the coming weeks of Age of Sigmar stuff.

With the exception of stuff that leaks unintentionally, GW have a 3-month preview window rule for showing new content. The June update specifically only mentioned GSC models and not the codex. That makes me think that:

Orks/Wolves will receive more substantial updates by early Sept.
These GSC models will be tied to the Killteam releases coming very soon.
The GSC codex will be much later in the year, possibly after the rumoured Chaos / Slaanesh releases.

That all ties with the rumours we saw at the start of the year, which gave been largely accurate so far.

I think exactly the same.

If this is true and they are coming out with small unit box sets like Shadow spire plus keeping rules similar to SWA.. I am going to have to get a better job because I will go broke if all the model sets look something like this...

I was up at WHW for the AOS open day yesterday and i thought i would do a bit of snooping in the exhibition area, i found they have since rearranged the cabinet and have added some more of the Aberrants which i count 5 of not including the one with a familiar already seen, so including the gunslinger there are 7 new GSC minis on the way

Ive added "New" next to them and the 1st 3 pics are of the new minis and the other pics are from different angles, plus a few of the older minis just for