Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Episode five tomorrow, and looking forward to it.

My weekend is now nicely bookended by Disco on a Friday, and Walking Dead on a Monday

text removed

Reds8n

Another excellent episode this week, far better than I was expecting when I saw that Section 31 and their USS Edge-terprise were back. Still don't particularly enjoy that sub-plot or the characters within it, but the episode as a whole was smashing, once again putting character front and centre which is always good.

I really do appreciate this series being a bit more 'monster of the week' and more of a slow burn than the very serial, rapid first series. The higher episode count really is doing it some favours in that regard.

Still need to get round to giving the rest of the Bridge crew their moments to shine. Still couldn’t tell you all their names.

Better episode but be nice if the writters tried a little harder to make a coherent plot and narrative.

Tilly was less annoying and loved seeing Burnham put in her place by Georgio who was a joy in every scene. Really enjoy Pike as well - pity he is just there to take orders from Burnham.

its getting better but not a patch on Season 1 at the moment for me.

Still need to get round to giving the rest of the Bridge crew their moments to shine. Still couldn’t tell you all their names

Detmer seems like she should be fun - no idea what to make about the android lady and Linus is crap.

I don't think they will bother much - every episode revolves around Tilly and Burnham - look at the adoring looks everyone gives them as they strut around the bridge at the end of the episode.....

 Mr Morden wrote:
Better episode but be nice if the writters tried a little harder to make a coherent plot and narrative.

Tilly was less annoying and loved seeing Burnham put in her place by Georgio who was a joy in every scene. Really enjoy Pike as well - pity he is just there to take orders from Burnham.

its getting better but not a patch on Season 1 at the moment for me.

Still need to get round to giving the rest of the Bridge crew their moments to shine. Still couldn’t tell you all their names

Detmer seems like she should be fun - no idea what to make about the android lady and Linus is crap.

I don't think they will bother much - every episode revolves around Tilly and Burnham - look at the adoring looks everyone gives them as they strut around the bridge at the end of the episode.....

I was chatting with a bloke about disco and we both struggled to recall pretty much anything about any of the other bridge officers/senior officers. Like the chief engineer, is there one? Cant remember them appearing and I am pretty sure its not Stamets (sp?). It would be really nice to have even some focus on anyone than Tilly and Burnham, it seems more often than not that Burnham is actually in charge and the captain and first officer are a cheer squad.

 ingtaer wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Better episode but be nice if the writters tried a little harder to make a coherent plot and narrative.

Tilly was less annoying and loved seeing Burnham put in her place by Georgio who was a joy in every scene. Really enjoy Pike as well - pity he is just there to take orders from Burnham.

its getting better but not a patch on Season 1 at the moment for me.

Still need to get round to giving the rest of the Bridge crew their moments to shine. Still couldn’t tell you all their names

Detmer seems like she should be fun - no idea what to make about the android lady and Linus is crap.

I don't think they will bother much - every episode revolves around Tilly and Burnham - look at the adoring looks everyone gives them as they strut around the bridge at the end of the episode.....

I was chatting with a bloke about disco and we both struggled to recall pretty much anything about any of the other bridge officers/senior officers. Like the chief engineer, is there one? Cant remember them appearing and I am pretty sure its not Stamets (sp?). It would be really nice to have even some focus on anyone than Tilly and Burnham, it seems more often than not that Burnham is actually in charge and the captain and first officer are a cheer squad.

and apparently the Engineering Commander that Pike brought over and did nothing is now Chief of Security for some reason, not that they apparently use security - ever.

Compared to previous St - there is no Chief Engineer, there is a regular Doctor but she is just one of several, there are some science officers and Stamets is really just a visiting scientist. There is the visiting engineer woman from the wreck who is fun but apparently does nto have a offical role. I guess people just wonder on and off the ship all the time judging by the wierd appearance and disappearnce of Number One went.

Yep its Cap Burnham every epsiode - she tells everyone what to do, how to do it and often then even does it for them. Its really being to grate for me.

I think that new engineer they brought over will become the chief engineer. Stamets is like the senior science officer but he’s more of a specialist for the spore drive. Burnham is the de facto chief science officer. She would be the official head science officer but she got demoted recently and is trying to come back up the ranks. It makes sense that the new chief is security is from Pike’s staff. Their last head of security turned out to be a Klingon and the one before that died a stupid death.
I actually think the premise of STD may be what a Starfleet ship is like that isn’t the best of the best but actually has had a lot of turnover. That’s been done with TOS, TNG, DS9 and Enterprise. Disco has had 3 captains already. Much of the crew is from whatever the first ship was so that’s four. That would leave a lot of crews reeling and it’s kind of interesting.

I quite like that the Disco crew are more fringe loonies and misfits. But again, we need to spend time with more of the bridge crew in general.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I quite like that the Disco crew are more fringe loonies and misfits. But again, we need to spend time with more of the bridge crew in general.

So basically the crew of the Lost Light over in Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye? Yeah, didn't like that comic either...

 Just Tony wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I quite like that the Disco crew are more fringe loonies and misfits. But again, we need to spend time with more of the bridge crew in general.

So basically the crew of the Lost Light over in Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye? Yeah, didn't like that comic either...

I imagine most of the Federation fleet is in pretty bad shape......lots of damaged, grieiving angry people.

Def agree about spending time with people other than Tilly and Burnham - I assume we will get a bit of time with Stamets now?

The freaks are more on the Section 31 ship apparently and the commander of that ship is so out of his depth trying to control the Emperor.....

Well that was one crazy episode. Not sure about the decision to completely upend an entire planet’s civilization. It almost ended up destroying an entire species and they were supposed to be under a “light” Prime Directive too! Oh well, guess it all worked out in the end...

Anyone think that belour (have no idea how it’s spelled) black slime species is the same one as the one that killed Tasha Yar?

I wondered about the Tasha thing as well, but I doubt it as that one seemed far superior to this.

As is I did not like the reveal of the Balour. If they were supposed to be the real prey species, I’d have rather they just made them some half sized frailer looking things instead of that big extra creepy whatever the hell that was.

 AduroT wrote:
I wondered about the Tasha thing as well, but I doubt it as that one seemed far superior to this.

As is I did not like the reveal of the Balour. If they were supposed to be the real prey species, I’d have rather they just made them some half sized frailer looking things instead of that big extra creepy whatever the hell that was.

Yeah, like how is Saru’s species a natural predator for that? I don’t see how the porcupine quills help here. The slime species was cool but they probably should have used that for something else.....like the species that killed Tasha.

Well that was another mess - this series is not going well.

Again Pike was great - when he was not taking orders from Burnham, there was an interesting set up and then they just threw it away so they could get on with the next bit of the Burnham plot - even though of course her and Tilly where the only ones on the ship (apart fomr the android woman (*) capable of doing anything,

Good stuff included Tylers dig back at Pike - "Those of us who actaully fought in the war" - cold dude, cold..

So was there just the one weird black slime monster with its super crappy drones - that was all very odd - what was the rest of the doing, might have been nice to see their reaction to the upending of an entire planets civilisation or if they had communicated to him that Saru's race drove them to the edge of extinction.....

Its all a bit lazy but also rushed like the last two episodes. sad really - thre was an interesting story trying to emerge.

(*) seriously who or what is she - there is a story there (like most of the neglected bridge crew)

Red angel is Burnham.... calling it now, if true this series is dead to me and i will just watch something else until real trek comes back.

 Formosa wrote:
Red angel is Burnham.... calling it now, if true this series is dead to me and i will just watch something else until real trek comes back.

Ughhh I can see that and I hate it.......

 Formosa wrote:
Red angel is Burnham.... calling it now, if true this series is dead to me and i will just watch something else until real trek comes back.

What do you mean “come back”? Orville’s already on its second season.

 AduroT wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
Red angel is Burnham.... calling it now, if true this series is dead to me and i will just watch something else until real trek comes back.

What do you mean “come back”? Orville’s already on its second season.

I have not manged to watch that as I have not liked anything else Seth Mcfarlane has done....(although Candice King was in a episode so that might get me to watch it.)

I'm with you mordon, I can't stand McFarlane either but I've watched the first series of star trek Orville now and it's ... Really good, I'm waiting for the second season to finish before I binge it.

Didn't particularly enjoy the last episode. But hey, every Trek has it's bum notes.

Red Angel? That's not Burnham. I think it's linked to the Red Matter that caused loads of trouble in the movie timeline.

As for the Orville? My detestation of the smug git that is McFarlane means I will never, ever watch it. Just cannot stand him.

Red Matter/Red Angel Burnham - no matter how awful- is not mutually exclusive.

Be more amusing if its the Empress

 Mr Morden wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
Red angel is Burnham.... calling it now, if true this series is dead to me and i will just watch something else until real trek comes back.

What do you mean “come back”? Orville’s already on its second season.

I have not manged to watch that as I have not liked anything else Seth Mcfarlane has done....(although Candice King was in a episode so that might get me to watch it.)

Don't let a dislike of MacFarlane stop you from checking it out. Odds are if you don't like STD you'll like Orville.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Well that was another mess - this series is not going well.

Again Pike was great - when he was not taking orders from Burnham, there was an interesting set up and then they just threw it away so they could get on with the next bit of the Burnham plot - even though of course her and Tilly where the only ones on the ship (apart fomr the android woman (*) capable of doing anything,

Good stuff included Tylers dig back at Pike - "Those of us who actaully fought in the war" - cold dude, cold..

So was there just the one weird black slime monster with its super crappy drones - that was all very odd - what was the rest of the doing, might have been nice to see their reaction to the upending of an entire planets civilisation or if they had communicated to him that Saru's race drove them to the edge of extinction.....

Its all a bit lazy but also rushed like the last two episodes. sad really - thre was an interesting story trying to emerge.

(*) seriously who or what is she - there is a story there (like most of the neglected bridge crew)

Airiam. She's a "Cybernetically augmented humanoid alien" (no specific species has been named). First played by Sara Mitich (who also played Gia, the belter prostitute on Ceres that was teaching Havelock (the "earther") how to speak "belter"). Her official role is Spore drive Ops control.

And we’re getting a third season. Announced today, which is nice.

Judging from the clearer pic posted of the red angel (don't watch the show myself though), my guess from the hips and body type would be future Tilly. Has anyone actually checked the credits to see if someone is listed as the red angel?




Automatically Appended Next Post:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And we’re getting a third season. Announced today, which is nice.

That's disappointing. Maybe the new co-showrunner will make it into something that I might like.

That’s nice pet.

Have you tried, like, not watching stuff you don’t enjoy, and letting each be unto their own?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That’s nice pet.

Have you tried, like, not watching stuff you don’t enjoy, and letting each be unto their own?

You mean like I'm doing this season by not watching after having watched the first and being disappointed? This is a discussion forum and I'm discussing the recent development on the show. If you don't like it, have you tried, like, starting a blog where you can just post monologues all day/every day and approve comments before posting so that you don't risk encountering opinions that don't match your own?

 warboss wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That’s nice pet.

Have you tried, like, not watching stuff you don’t enjoy, and letting each be unto their own?

You mean like I'm doing this season by not watching after having watched the first and being disappointed? This is a discussion forum and I'm discussing the recent development on the show. If you don't like it, have you tried, like, starting a blog where you can just post monologues all day/every day and approve comments before posting so that you don't risk encountering opinions that don't match your own?

Hahaha Burn..ham.

Anywho, anyone seen this fan theory that says the Red angel might be spock trying to merge the timelines? so STD, Prime and Kelvin timelines? if true that would go a long way to fixing some of the inconsistencies within the series and could mean Picard series could be part of it, what do you all think?

 warboss wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That’s nice pet.

Have you tried, like, not watching stuff you don’t enjoy, and letting each be unto their own?

You mean like I'm doing this season by not watching after having watched the first and being disappointed? This is a discussion forum and I'm discussing the recent development on the show. If you don't like it, have you tried, like, starting a blog where you can just post monologues all day/every day and approve comments before posting so that you don't risk encountering opinions that don't match your own?

I just don’t get the need to harp on constantly about it, or comment on it.

I could list a great number of well loved TV series that I utterly loathe. But I don’t feel any compulsion to do so. I just don’t watch them, and let each be about their own. And that includes follow ups to series I have enjoyed. And indeed, specific seasons of shows I loved, loathed, then loved again.

I mean, what’s the actual point? What does such an activity achieve? What’s the endgame? Where’s the gain?

It’s like The Last Jedi. I for one enjoyed it. And whilst I get opinions very much vary, I don’t actually care. Yet try starting a Star Wars thread on Dakka, and not have it devolve into mindless, repetive tripe by those that didn’t like The Last Jedi. You can’t. At all.

That’s not say those that didn’t enjoy it are wrong. Just that they’ve proven to be crushing bores over the matter.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 Formosa wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That’s nice pet.

Have you tried, like, not watching stuff you don’t enjoy, and letting each be unto their own?

You mean like I'm doing this season by not watching after having watched the first and being disappointed? This is a discussion forum and I'm discussing the recent development on the show. If you don't like it, have you tried, like, starting a blog where you can just post monologues all day/every day and approve comments before posting so that you don't risk encountering opinions that don't match your own?

Hahaha Burn..ham.

Anywho, anyone seen this fan theory that says the Red angel might be spock trying to merge the timelines? so STD, Prime and Kelvin timelines? if true that would go a long way to fixing some of the inconsistencies within the series and could mean Picard series could be part of it, what do you all think?

On the second bit, I did postulate there may be a link twixt Spock, Red Matter and The Red Angel. I’ve not put much thought into it (thinks are for work, where I’m paid well for them). Would be an interesting plot point. Which doesn’t mean it’s immune to poor execution or criticism.