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Does the standard SM Land Speeder box come with the Typhoon MLs and Assault cannon, or are they separate. If separate, how do you get all the necessary sprues for all the options?

Side question: Aside from Ravenwing and maybe White Scars, is there a Chapter that is famous for using Land Speeders?

Thanx

You get the MLs and one of each heavy weapon option.

The weapons are all included with the basic kit.

While all chapters make use of the Land Speeder, its a pretty mainstay vehicle, if you're looking for an SM force that would have a greater emphasis on them I'd probably suggest White Scars as the first one to come to mind.

Just make sure you buy a new or current kit - the Land Speeder kit has come in a bunch of different load-outs over the years. Some exceptionally basic, others with all the latest toys. Don't settle for new-in-box unless you know which it is. I'd assume they've had different box art.

What the kit does not come with, are the double heavy Weston options from the index.

Speeders outside of the DA talon master are pretty meh right now competitively, but any chapter can/will use them.

Thanx for the quick replies!
You may have just talked me out of buying an Attack Bike in favor of a Land Speeder. Bigger model and more dakka.

I ask about what Chapter as I will be painting it to match my current project of painting iconic Marines units with their "traditional" units. So I have an Iron Hands Dreadnought, BA Assault Marine, Salamanders with flamers, an UM Rhino chassis Tank (magnetized to also be Razorback or Predator) etc.
Since I already 2 bikes, White Scar and Ravenwing, I kinda want to avoid reusing that scheme, but I make have to if nothing else stands out.

Thanx for the tip about getting a more recent box. I'll likely be ordering from my LGS, so it should be the most recent iteration.
This will also be for my games at home, so competitiveness is less a factor

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Attack bikes are WAY cheaper, though.

Martel732 wrote:
Attack bikes are WAY cheaper, though.

$27 for 1 Attack Bike or $30 for 1 Land Speeder. I'm I on the wrong GW site?
And in-game, 2 Attack bikes don't have the dakka that 1 Land Speeder gets. I'll also be using Power levels, so it's all good.

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True, but two attack bikes are harder to kill than one speeder for sure. Truly, all I use them for is to fill out brigades anyway. They're not there to DO anything. Just give CP.

Related question: Would Salamanders make heavy use of Land Speeders? If I remember correctly Nocturne had some sort of shifting-gravity thing going on, which I could see making skimmers a really bad idea. The impression I get from reading about Salamanders is that they tend to be the slow and steady type, and don't tend to use a lot of really fast vehicles.

Because of trading I've ended up with a bunch of Land Speeders, Whirlwinds and dreadnoughts. I was thinking either Salamanders or Iron Hands would be a fluffy army for such a force.

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
Related question: Would Salamanders make heavy use of Land Speeders? If I remember correctly Nocturne had some sort of shifting-gravity thing going on, which I could see making skimmers a really bad idea. The impression I get from reading about Salamanders is that they tend to be the slow and steady type, and don't tend to use a lot of really fast vehicles.

Because of trading I've ended up with a bunch of Land Speeders, Whirlwinds and dreadnoughts. I was thinking either Salamanders or Iron Hands would be a fluffy army for such a force.

Funny you should mention Salamanders as they as I may end up painting it that way.

My exist marine collection included 1 Tactical Marine for all 10 legion/chapters that have current rules, plus 1 "special" for each
So I have:
UM tank
IH dread
WS & RW bike
DW & GK termies
BA & RG assault marines

But for Salamanders, I only have a Heavy Flamer/Multi-melta Dev (plus a Tac with flamer) So my Salamander "special" is small compared to the above.
But the same goes for my Imperial & Crimson Fists and Black Templar. The later 2 acting as specials for the former
My Space Wolf special is a Lone Wolf/Wolf Guard on 40mm base with a Fenris wolf

So to fit into my existing project, I can potentially go with Salamanders, Imperial Fists, Templars or Wolves
I rule out wolves since it would require a lot of wolfy add-ons.
I like the Salamander paint scheme the most, so that's probably going to be the winner

BTW, this is the collection so far:


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I've got 75 bucks in real life bets as to how broken the Wolves are gonna be.

Martel732 wrote:
I've got 75 bucks in real life bets as to how broken the Wolves are gonna be.

Agreed. Cuz you just know Russ is gonna get rules

Wolves might cause a hiatus from 8th, even. I can't stand them.

Martel732 wrote:
Wolves might cause a hiatus from 8th, even. I can't stand them.

Are you admitting to discrimination against space furries.
Space furries are marines too, except wolfen and direwolfs and santa sledge and frost weapons.
I really hope that Codex furries isn't OP as it's going to resume the marines are fine arguments all over again.

I hate them and want them squatted. If that's discrimination, then so be it. They are everything wrong with 40K squeezed into one codex.

Martel732 wrote:
I hate them and want them squatted. If that's discrimination, then so be it. They are everything wrong with 40K squeezed into one codex.

WOW. I am well aware of your general hatred of Eldar, but they haven't made you quit yet. So the sheer loathing you have for Wolves must be immense.

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Martel732 wrote:
Wolves might cause a hiatus from 8th, even. I can't stand them.

But they're such good boys!

Martel732 wrote:
I hate them and want them squatted. If that's discrimination, then so be it. They are everything wrong with 40K squeezed into one codex.

FINALLY something you and I can agree on.

As a 3rd ed SW player who returned for 8th, it’s pretty funny how much Wolfier things got since then.

Martel732 wrote:
I hate them and want them squatted. If that's discrimination, then so be it. They are everything wrong with 40K squeezed into one codex.

Kind of Harsh coming from the bishōnen vampire faction

Getting back on topic: Can a Land Speeder have both Typhoon MLs and Assault cannon, or it is a "pick one of the following".
I'm using the Index and am not sure if the Codex entry is worded differently. But it appear that you get 2 options:
1) Trade the HB for MM
2) Any model may take an AC, TML, HB, HF, or MM

It is the "or" in option 2 that makes me think you can't take 2 of those options at one time.
But I could also see you being able to take any of those options if "or" is written to mean "and/or", which is possible in a series of items

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It's a "one of the following" thing. Two weapons total. One is the big gun option, the other is a Heavy Bolter you can swap for a MM.

meleti wrote:
It's a "one of the following" thing. Two weapons total. One is the big gun option, the other is a Heavy Bolter you can swap for a MM.

Well that sucks, but makes sense. I was looking forward to having TML, AC and MM. Guess I'll be getting more magnets as my supply is looking a bit low for this project

I may still run a 3 weapon loadout for my games at home. Whoever plays the Marines usually has a uphill battle, which is sad because they have the most vehicles (1 Ven Dread, 1 Razorback/Pred, and soon 1 Land Speeder). But alas, Chaos, Necrons and Eldar are just better, even without army traits and stratagems (which we don't play at home to keep things super simple)

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In one thread:

SM sux0r coz need BobbyG FTW.

This thread:

Popping wood about the possibility of Wuss Wuss.


Hate to be the bearer of bad news but Russ is not the next Primarch to release.

 Primark G wrote:

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but Russ is not the next Primarch to release.

I really hope that for once you're right!

 Crimson wrote:

 Primark G wrote:

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but Russ is not the next Primarch to release.

I really hope that for once you're right!

Hopefully it's the Lion instead!

 ZergSmasher wrote:

Hopefully it's the Lion instead!

Hopefully there will be no more loyalist Primarchs and they have good sense to shove Guilliman back in the stasis too.

 Primark G wrote:
In one thread:

SM sux0r coz need BobbyG FTW.

This thread:

Popping wood about the possibility of Wuss Wuss.


Hate to be the bearer of bad news but Russ is not the next Primarch to release.

and whats your source on that? that sounds like a pretty strong statement, got an inside source that says otherwise?


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Martel732 wrote:
I hate them and want them squatted. If that's discrimination, then so be it. They are everything wrong with 40K squeezed into one codex.

I dislike this so screw all the thousands of people who like it!

 Crimson wrote:

 ZergSmasher wrote:

Hopefully it's the Lion instead!

Hopefully there will be no more loyalist Primarchs and they have good sense to shove Guilliman back in the stasis too.

They started the arms race by putting Chaos primarchs on the tabletop, though.