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it's murderfang but generic ... let's get real

... it's the same thing that happened for the dreadknight; ogryn; ghoul brutes, etc etc (all newly re-purposed builds)

Well, It is not a good sign that the new units mentioned were HH style terminators and Wulfen dread. These are all existing kits (Wulfen dread is most likely just generic version of Murderclaw.)

Agreed! On top of that Wulfen dreads make zero sense from a fluff standpoint. Sigh, why can't GW hire someone who has a clue why people like certain factions. SW were coolest when they were space Vikings, and the mark of the wulfen meant just Viking Berserkers not full fledged were-wolves.

So the best we can expect right now is Primaris boxed with new SW upgrade sprue and Tataros/Cataphractii boxed with new SW upgrade sprue? Bleh. Well I'll probably pick up pony tail guy when he his the bits market if he's cheap. He'll look decent without the pony tail.

Alos I don't see the gunslinger Genestealer Hybrid guy. So this box is full of dissappointment.

Power Axes are the coolest thing and only Space Wolves get to use them on their Primaris.

Lame. Pass. Still sitting on my thumbs for Sisters of Battle.

The Lieutenant equivalent looks nice (unlike the BA one) but... is he wielding a normal bolter? It doesn't look long enough to be a bolt rifle equivalent but might be the Reiver Assault 2 version that resembles a normal bolter.

GoatboyBeta wrote:

pm713 wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 aracersss wrote:
that's it ... no primaris jetbikes/bikes/gak anything ... that's IT!

Look at the article - there's more to come. "Wulfen Dreadnoughts" are referenced, and that hellblaster looks like he's got Wolf upgrades.

Somebody please tell me the article is faked. PLEASE.

If the BA can have Death company Dreads why not a Wulfen one for the SW? It just means that the pilot(or what's left of him) has started to wolf out in his sarcophagus.


Oh and it looks like the SW Intercessor pack leader gets a chainsword on there upgrade sprue.

Putting some crazy and barely controllable inside a giant war machine is incredibly stupid. There's not really a reason that someone with poor enough self control they succumb that fast would be put into a Dreadnought. BA I can live with because it's different for them but this is just GW taking the dumbass crap that ruins SW and making more.

It's pretty sad that Wolves have turned from my favourite faction to something I want nothing to do with.

 warboss wrote:

Spoiler:

The Lieutenant equivalent looks nice (unlike the BA one) but... is he wielding a normal bolter? It doesn't look long enough to be a bolt rifle equivalent but might be the Reiver Assault 2 version that resembles a normal bolter.

Yeah, I was wondering about the bolter too. It is a new design.

 warboss wrote:

Spoiler:

The Lieutenant equivalent looks nice (unlike the BA one) but... is he wielding a normal bolter? It doesn't look long enough to be a bolt rifle equivalent but might be the Reiver Assault 2 version that resembles a normal bolter.

I think all of the Lieutenants have been a bit 'off' when it comes to weapons. I don't know if it's to make things look customized or what, but there's definitely a bit of interesting going on there.

Justyn wrote:


So the best we can expect right now is Primaris boxed with new SW upgrade sprue and Tataros/Cataphractii boxed with new SW upgrade sprue? Bleh. Well I'll probably pick up pony tail guy when he his the bits market if he's cheap. He'll look decent without the pony tail.

It looks like the SW are getting pretty much the same "additions" that the BA and DA got. So I wouldn't hold your breath for Tartaros or Cataphractii specific upgrades.

Sorry I was unclear. That is what I expect, a single upgrade sprue packaged with all of those kits. Not a Primaris Sprue and a Terminator Sprue.

 Dysartes wrote:


...what Hellblaster?

Is it just me or is that wolves head weird looking?

It's weird looking.

Yeah i use very few of the GW SW heads. Some are decent, most are crap.

So, i had to pause that Tooth and Claw video in the article as i was reading the article at the same time... Had a massive "WTF?!?" moment when i read "Wulfen Dreadnought".

I'm curious as to how they are going to try and spin this. A Death Company Dreadnought i can understand, as i presume the mind of the Marine inside falls to the Rage, but, i didn't think a standard marine inside of a dreadnought could succumb to the Wulfen curse? And i'd be raising an eyebrow if they put an already turned Wulfen into a Dreadnought...


edit- it double posted for some reason.

Kdash wrote:
So, i had to pause that Tooth and Claw video in the article as i was reading the article at the same time... Had a massive "WTF?!?" moment when i read "Wulfen Dreadnought".

I'm curious as to how they are going to try and spin this. A Death Company Dreadnought i can understand, as i presume the mind of the Marine inside falls to the Rage, but, i didn't think a standard marine inside of a dreadnought could succumb to the Wulfen curse? And i'd be raising an eyebrow if they put an already turned Wulfen into a Dreadnought...


edit- it double posted for some reason.

Not necessarily the only way to do it, but they had that episode where a TS sorcerers tried to turn all Space Wolves into Wulfen through some sorcery shenanigans and was stopped by Blackmane (but not before some did turn Wulfen, possibly including some Dreads).

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:


...what Hellblaster?

Those are definitely new (the head and chest). The head isn't from the old kits and the chest is obviously primaris but not from the upgrade pack.

Can I just mention this....

In Tooth and Claw, the Space Wolves – now reinforced by the Primaris Space Marines – descend upon Vigilus to crush the insidious Genestealer Cults. This is no mere uprising – positioned in one of the only relatively stable channels between each half of the galaxy, Vigilus is both the gateway to the beleaguered “Imperium Nihilus” and a citadel against the Black Legion, Orks and all manner of threats from without. Should the Space Wolves fail, the consequences would be devastating

So this is that narrative release campaign everyone has been talking about. If this box is he first in a line of new space wolf and gsc realeases (new boxes and "wulfen dreadnought") then this could be promising for the orks and black legion.

So, a few months back many people were talking about the Abaddon and chosen terminator type of thing, and people have been begging for orks as long as I can remember. It would make a lot of sense if these things were brought out alongside this narrative thingy

I think that GW are going to start with supplement books like 7th, with a few new models for each. There might be a box of black legion v orks.


By any means, the future looks bright!

Is that Ragnar book even canon anymore? They seemed to 100% ignore it for Siege of Fenris.

 McMagnus Mindbullets wrote:
Can I just mention this....

In Tooth and Claw, the Space Wolves – now reinforced by the Primaris Space Marines – descend upon Vigilus to crush the insidious Genestealer Cults. This is no mere uprising – positioned in one of the only relatively stable channels between each half of the galaxy, Vigilus is both the gateway to the beleaguered “Imperium Nihilus” and a citadel against the Black Legion, Orks and all manner of threats from without. Should the Space Wolves fail, the consequences would be devastating

So this is that narrative release campaign everyone has been talking about. If this box is he first in a line of new space wolf and gsc realeases (new boxes and "wulfen dreadnought") then this could be promising for the orks and black legion.

So, a few months back many people were talking about the Abaddon and chosen terminator type of thing, and people have been begging for orks as long as I can remember. It would make a lot of sense if these things were brought out alongside this narrative thingy

I think that GW are going to start with supplement books like 7th, with a few new models for each. There might be a box of black legion v orks.


By any means, the future looks bright!

This would be nice if it is the case. Could this be how they update codices now for armies that have a codex?

One thing I also like about it if GW keeps doing it, is while I don't want to start large armies, this would be a great way to collect a small army and now would have a use in Kill Teams now. Before I haven't bought these boxsets that GW put out unless I collected that army. Why bother buy something when you can't use it since you would have to buy more because players want bigger games. Now with Kill Teams they can be used.

Are the Abberant's coming out separately?

Thanks, Sunny Side Up - didn't actually see that banner in the article, oddly.

 Dysartes wrote:
Thanks, Sunny Side Up - didn't actually see that banner in the article, oddly.

It wasn't in the article, it was on the Facebook/Twitter links to the articles.

Looks like Russ ain't coming, at least not with the codex. Oh well, the boxset still looks cool.

 dan2026 wrote:
Are the Abberant's coming out separately?

Not yet. This is essentially the "Forgebane" for this setup. The Aberrant and Abomination will likely be out when the codex comes out, with this set being available for as long as stocks last.

pm713 wrote:
Is that Ragnar book even canon anymore? They seemed to 100% ignore it for Siege of Fenris.

I don't think Black Library is ever canon. But if they include it (or something like it) in the Codex, it would be.

Kind of like this set being smaller myself. Think a purchase may be in order.

Looks like the Wolves are become closer and closer to just having a paint scheme and accessory packs amount of separation from being vanilla marines.

I like that SW primaris character and will get one ( then put a helmet on it). Looks like a nice boxset but I really do not need a genestealer cult. btw does it come with a full page rulebook?
Edit: just seen the dices and not my cup of tea.

 Vankraken wrote:
Looks like the Wolves are become closer and closer to just having a paint scheme and accessory packs amount of separation from being vanilla marines.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a stand alone Primaris Codex in the near future where the SW,BA and DA are included as just chapter tactics and a keyword.

A bit sad to see the Aggressors being the easy-to-build option. That's kinda weak.