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geargutz wrote:

geargutz wrote:

Please do not attach non-wargaming images to your posts - BrookM

didnt realize this was a thread rule?

anyways, nova is literally next week. i would've thought this latest vehicle preview would've been there. maybe they will reveal the rumored squigbuggy at nova (so far they've been doing 1 vehicle at a time for us).

are there any other events after nova that we might expect any more news? if not then we would need to rely on leaks all through September.

though whenever there is a leak it seems the community team is quick to release an article. with the latest aos oct whitedwarf leak there was a community post about they very things in the leak right after https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/26/from-the-wild-places/.

either GW plans these leaks or they are very quick to put out an article to not miss the "hype".

I think it's the latter. There's never much in these articles and they'd have the photos ready. Can't imagine it takes very long to bang one out.

Tastyfish wrote:
Blood axes have looted vehicles, so that leaves the jet for Goffs, and Squigs for snakebites...might be what they were thinking?

I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to say. All the clans use looted vehicles, but Death Skulls use the most. The Boomdakka Snazzwagon they previewed was in Death Skulls colors and wasn't a looted vehicle.

It would be cool if squig buggies turned out to be something that Snakebites could use to fill out Fast Attack choices while staying thematic. Kannons and Lobbas were a thematic choice for them in Heavy Support, which is one reason I'm hoping they don't get axed. There's still the Squiggoth, but it is expensive.

geargutz wrote:

geargutz wrote:

Please do not attach non-wargaming images to your posts - BrookM

didnt realize this was a thread rule?.

I'm assuming it was non-gaming related and was an attachment.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/core/forum_rules.jsp

Any image attached to a forum post (as opposed to hot-linking to the image from another site) that is not related to gaming or is copyrighted may be deleted.

geargutz wrote:
either GW plans these leaks or they are very quick to put out an article to not miss the "hype".

They want official pictures out, not blurry earthquake-o-vision photos. That's why they're so quick on the jump.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

geargutz wrote:
either GW plans these leaks or they are very quick to put out an article to not miss the "hype".

They want official pictures out, not blurry earthquake-o-vision photos. That's why they're so quick on the jump.

Agreed. I imagine a few of the recent leaks we've seen would have been officially revealed at NOVA if it weren't for the leaks.

Well, long live the leakers!

 Ghaz wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

geargutz wrote:
either GW plans these leaks or they are very quick to put out an article to not miss the "hype".

They want official pictures out, not blurry earthquake-o-vision photos. That's why they're so quick on the jump.

Agreed. I imagine a few of the recent leaks we've seen would have been officially revealed at NOVA if it weren't for the leaks.

Previously reliable rumour mongers were saying Moonclan for AoS was planned to be shown at GenCon. It's entirely possible that they switched the reveals around so they could show Moonclan, the only one not yet leaked, at NOVA to make a big splash.

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 ceorron wrote:

I haven't been paying very much attention for the past decade or so, but isn't this the first time in a long time that GW has thrown a really overt pop culture reference on a model like this?

I'd be happy to be wrong about this though

 General Helstrom wrote:
I haven't been paying very much attention for the past decade or so, but isn't this the first time in a long time that GW has thrown a really overt pop culture reference on a model like this?

I'd be happy to be wrong about this though

Marbo also has some visible pop culture cues for sure.

Yeah, you'll see a few nods in the Guard, but probably mostly Orks - they're really just the comic relief of the IP. That, and nurglings apparently...

Marbo is a pop culture reference. But yeah, throwing in Snake Plissken’s suppresed machine pistol and Audrey II really seals it up…

Frankly, this new ork speedwagon is a bit tooooo smooth and refined for orks.
Looks a bit too much like it may actually work, on its own,
without faith in Mork and Gork to move it along.
PLus the orks themselves are too.... orruky.
Too neat and crisp and clean, 'like they smell of aftershave and filtered cigarettes.

 jeff white wrote:
Frankly, this new ork speedwagon is a bit tooooo smooth and refined for orks.
Looks a bit too much like it may actually work, on its own,
without faith in Mork and Gork to move it along.
PLus the orks themselves are too.... orruky.
Too neat and crisp and clean, 'like they smell of aftershave and filtered cigarettes.

Head swaps, heavy washes and weathering and massive conversion freedom/plasticard butchery are the cornerstones of Ork player's modeling experiences.

Any official Ork model is only the beginning, any mek worth his teef knows that.

Disgraceful and frankly glaring error on that model. Genuinely sloppy work tbh.

 Ratius wrote:
Disgraceful and frankly glaring error on that model. Genuinely sloppy work tbh.

Spoiler:

The big button on his dashboard should be RED

I just love how the steering wheel is on the right, as it is in the UK. I think this is the first really traditional-ish vehicle GW did with a steering wheel in a specific position.

The Taurox also has the steering wheel there and the Ork Trukk kit allows you to mount the driver either the right side, or the wrong one, depending on where you reside.

Promises of more Ork spoilers this weekend at Nova. I wonder if they will stick with the week before preview model for update codexs or go into more details like they do for some of the bigger news codexs like Knights.

Well if codex comes in october we are 4-5weeks at least for hints about that

Kendo wrote:
Promises of more Ork spoilers this weekend at Nova. I wonder if they will stick with the week before preview model for update codexs or go into more details like they do for some of the bigger news codexs like Knights.

Preview seminar is on Wednesday.

 Ratius wrote:
Disgraceful and frankly glaring error on that model. Genuinely sloppy work tbh.

Spoiler:

The big button on his dashboard should be RED

Nah, they're Death Skulls, so while you might think red make it go faster, they know that blue makes it luckier.

 jeff white wrote:

Looks a bit too much like it may actually work, on its own,
without faith in Mork and Gork to move it along.

Ugh...this snippet of fluff is my pet hate in 40K. It only appeared in one Ork Codex, back in 3rd Edition IIRC, as one of those 'primary source' documents they were doing at the time, and it was speculation by a Magos Biologis declared a heretic for his borderline-admiration for Orks and their adaptability. I mean, it's broadly consistent with the way Ork psionics works, but it's basically just a joke that for some reason has survived to be repeated uncritically all over the internet. Every wiki treats it like it's some central aspect of Ork fluff when it's never even been mentioned since!

Orks can build stuff that works. Their guns shoot, their buggies drive, their spaceships fly. If they just used their latent psychic energy to power their technology, there'd be no need for Meks' abilities to be encoded into their DNA: they could just nail together bits of any old scrap and just have the Boyz used their mind bullets to kill the enemy.

*Grumble grumble rant rant*

Oh yeah! Personally i pretty much ignore that. It's not like it's presented as truth so not even changing things by ignoring it

Indeed. I tend to think that the "psychic field" might act as "magic grease" to help some bits of gear work slightly better than they should - or work when they shouldn't quite - but that's it. After all, the Diggaz' stuff worked in Gorkamorka, and they weren't Orks.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Indeed. I tend to think that the "psychic field" might act as "magic grease" to help some bits of gear work slightly better than they should - or work when they shouldn't quite - but that's it. After all, the Diggaz' stuff worked in Gorkamorka, and they weren't Orks.

Yeah, and that was before they even made up the clap-your-hands-if-you-believe version of Ork technology!

At the time, in fact, Armageddon Ork Hunters could use their guns too. GW have never been consistent about it, which is why I always treated it as a joke/speculation that could be safely ignored. If it didn't get given undue weight online, it would have rightfully been forgotten.

 jeff white wrote:
Frankly, this new ork speedwagon is a bit tooooo smooth and refined for orks.

It's easier to add plates than remove them and easier to scratch-build angular parts if you prefer those to rounded ones, so I'm all for ork vehicles being fairly smooth and curvy.

I also posted this in the ork rumours thread but in case anyone hasn't seen it:




I'll make some bullet points later if noone beats me to it. But some interesting stuff in here

The previous leaked clan traits seem to be true unfortunately..
No warboss, painboy or big mek on bike.
New wartrike model.
The squig buggies are actually named rockettrukk squig buggy
Ghaz is apparently amazing, don't know if it's a new model
There's a mekshop that buffs vehicles sort of like the forgeshrine for knights but this one seems good.
Dakkadakkadakka is an army wide rule, 6's generates extra shots.
Apparently the gorkanaut is amazing now.
KFF is now "wholly within" (presumably 9" but not stated)

There's a stratagem that lets orks keep 20 power level off the board and deepstrike in anywhere on the board more than 9" away from the enemy.
Green tide stratagem, Take a boyz unit under half strength and set it up wholly within 6" of table and more than 9" away from the enemy (Don't know if it also replenishes the unit ála tide of traitors)
Grot shield stratagem, when suffering a wound on a 2+ a grot unit within 3" suffers a wound instead. Grots have to be closer to the firing unit
Ramming speed stratagem, ork vehicles can charge 3d6" and does mortal wounds when it successfully charges
Long uncrontrolled bursts stratagem, add +1 for flyers against other flyers
Looted stratagem, ork infantry units gain +1 Save when a vehicle is destroyed near them.
Get stuck in stratagem, ork infantry can pile in and fight again in CC

Thommy H wrote:

 jeff white wrote:

Looks a bit too much like it may actually work, on its own,
without faith in Mork and Gork to move it along.

Ugh...this snippet of fluff is my pet hate in 40K. It only appeared in one Ork Codex, back in 3rd Edition IIRC, as one of those 'primary source' documents they were doing at the time, and it was speculation by a Magos Biologis declared a heretic for his borderline-admiration for Orks and their adaptability. I mean, it's broadly consistent with the way Ork psionics works, but it's basically just a joke that for some reason has survived to be repeated uncritically all over the internet. Every wiki treats it like it's some central aspect of Ork fluff when it's never even been mentioned since!

Orks can build stuff that works. Their guns shoot, their buggies drive, their spaceships fly. If they just used their latent psychic energy to power their technology, there'd be no need for Meks' abilities to be encoded into their DNA: they could just nail together bits of any old scrap and just have the Boyz used their mind bullets to kill the enemy.

*Grumble grumble rant rant*

Thank you!

There is a lot of "fluff" for 40K that is just hands down stupid, this is one of those pieces. Now if we could just get rid of the whole "humanity is afraid of technology" aspect.

 Togusa wrote:

Thommy H wrote:

 jeff white wrote:

Looks a bit too much like it may actually work, on its own,
without faith in Mork and Gork to move it along.

Ugh...this snippet of fluff is my pet hate in 40K. It only appeared in one Ork Codex, back in 3rd Edition IIRC, as one of those 'primary source' documents they were doing at the time, and it was speculation by a Magos Biologis declared a heretic for his borderline-admiration for Orks and their adaptability. I mean, it's broadly consistent with the way Ork psionics works, but it's basically just a joke that for some reason has survived to be repeated uncritically all over the internet. Every wiki treats it like it's some central aspect of Ork fluff when it's never even been mentioned since!

Orks can build stuff that works. Their guns shoot, their buggies drive, their spaceships fly. If they just used their latent psychic energy to power their technology, there'd be no need for Meks' abilities to be encoded into their DNA: they could just nail together bits of any old scrap and just have the Boyz used their mind bullets to kill the enemy.

*Grumble grumble rant rant*

Thank you!

There is a lot of "fluff" for 40K that is just hands down stupid, this is one of those pieces. Now if we could just get rid of the whole "humanity is afraid of technology" aspect.

Considering how advanced tech has a tendency of either getting possessed or going skynet, I think the fear of technology is warranted. Removing that element will also get rid of one the obvious dune references, which was one of the sources of inspiration for Warhammer 40k.

The distrust of technology is just part of a 30,000-year fear of the unknown among humanity. Which is fair enough, when the unknown has a nasty habit of growing a tentacle and eating your soul.