Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress

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**Kanluwen**

Tastyfish wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
According to those at the event, there are Ratlings present in unit numbers for this boxed set--so I'm not quite sure how exactly this is going to work?

Ratlings or Ratings, or Ratling Ratings - the difference is important.

Ratlings. We don't know more than that.

**Adeptus Doritos**

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I had a subscription to WD for the last 2 years and I can count on one hand how many issues had rules for their games. And I can still eat with chopsticks on that same hand.

Then you must have a lot of fingers on your hand. I just had a quick skim through this years eight issues so far, and all of them have at least one article with new rules for a GW game.

Really? Cause all I'm seeing for game support is like 3 issues. One for a new kill-Team for Overkill, and one for the Slaughterpriest, and not much else that I can think of.

**Bobthehero**

Had a blast playing Silver Tower and Shadow over Hammerhal, so if this has heroes that are relevant to my interest, I'll have to see if I can get the group back for this.

**zend**

Just off the top of my head, April or May had GSC for Necromunda rules, another had Chaos for Necro, and August had new stuff for LOTR Battle Companies or whatever it's called.

But anyways, Ratlings, as in space hobbits with guns? We're getting a unit of plastic Ratlings in a WHQ game? Huh.

**Adeptus Doritos**

Bobthehero wrote:
Had a blast playing Silver Tower and Shadow over Hammerhal, so if this has heroes that are relevant to my interest, I'll have to see if I can get the group back for this.

If you didn't have a blast with those games, especially as goofy as Silver Tower was- you're technically not even allowed to play any GW game ever again.

**Chikout**

Adeptus Doritos wrote:
GoatboyBeta wrote:
Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I had a subscription to WD for the last 2 years and I can count on one hand how many issues had rules for their games. And I can still eat with chopsticks on that same hand.

Then you must have a lot of fingers on your hand. I just had a quick skim through this years eight issues so far, and all of them have at least one article with new rules for a GW game.

Really? Cause all I'm seeing for game support is like 3 issues. One for a new kill-Team for Overkill, and one for the Slaughterpriest, and not much else that I can think of.

Rules for middle earth battle companies.
A full campaign for Shadows over Hammerhal across three issues, rules for three Necromunda gangs, nighthaunt and Stormcast heroes and enemies in warhammer Quest, new Knights and gorkanauts in the imperial Knights game, new scenery rules for 40k, new aos battleplans etc.
They even did some new rules for lost patrol.

**Danny76**

I can’t think of an issue since the new format that hasn’t had new rules in it.
Some have had multiple games having content.

**Adeptus Doritos**

Chikout wrote:
Rules for middle earth battle companies.
A full campaign for Shadows over Hammerhal across three issues, rules for three Necromunda gangs, nighthaunt and Stormcast heroes and enemies in warhammer Quest, new Knights and gorkanauts in the imperial Knights game, new scenery rules for 40k, new aos battleplans etc.
They even did some new rules for lost patrol.

I didn't even think Middle-Earth had people that actually played it, I thought it was sort of like the GW Bigfoot.

But I've missed a few, it seems. I might have to go back and flip through them.

**Ghaz**

Adeptus Doritos wrote:
GoatboyBeta wrote:
Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I had a subscription to WD for the last 2 years and I can count on one hand how many issues had rules for their games. And I can still eat with chopsticks on that same hand.

Then you must have a lot of fingers on your hand. I just had a quick skim through this years eight issues so far, and all of them have at least one article with new rules for a GW game.

Really? Cause all I'm seeing for game support is like 3 issues. One for a new kill-Team for Overkill, and one for the Slaughterpriest, and not much else that I can think of.

The new Nighthaunt and Stormcast Eternal models got rules for Warhammer Quest in the July issue of White Dwarf. There were rules for 'Venator' bands for Necromunda in the May issue of White Dwarf., There were rules for Chaos Cult bands for Necromunda in the April issue of White Dwarf. There were rules for Genestealer Cults in the March issue of White Dwarf. There's more issues of White Dwarf with new rules than there is without.

**Adeptus Doritos**

Ghaz wrote:
The new Nighthaunt and Stormcast Eternal models got rules for Warhammer Quest in the July issue of White Dwarf. There were rules for 'Venator' bands for Necromunda in the May issue of White Dwarf., There were rules for Chaos Cult bands for Necromunda in the April issue of White Dwarf. There were rules for Genestealer Cults in the March issue of White Dwarf. There's more issues of White Dwarf with new rules than there is without.

Huh. I might have to open some of them. The whole reason I stopped doing that was because none of them for a few months had anything useful in it.

**Azazelx**

Chikout wrote:
They said in the Q and A that 40k Quest would be getting continued support. What exactly that means is another question. Silver tower got new heroes and enemies as recently as a couple of months ago, but has never got a proper expansion.

Out of interest - when/where was this?

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Leggy wrote:

Space Marines are iconic to 40k, so I guess people just assume there'll be one.
Having a Space Marine does set a higher bar for the heroes though. You can't just have "normal" humans rubbing shoulders with power armoured supersoldiers without breaking the balance or the fluff. Plus you have to explain why the marine is alone. Is he Deathwatch? An Exile? Some new rank of Primaris commando spy?

Still, my best guess for the heroes are the Rogue Trader in the picture (including the Servo Skull lamp), a Space Marine, a psyker, a Craftworld Eldar (probs a ranger) then 1 or two other more esoteric choices.

Rogue Traders having a detachment of Marines, Guard (Army) and anything else under their command as they set off to plunder the stars is as old as the fluff for Rogue Traders.

I can imagine an all-imperial party, but there's also lots of pre-existing fluff for others to fit in there. Some of the sourcebooks for the FFG RPGs even featured rules for Orkish members of RT entourages. It also depends on what the backstory is - how our heroes ended up inside the Blackstone Fortress...

**Promethius**

When Abaddon nicked the blacstones in the 12th Black Crusade, he required two artefacts (?eye of night and hand of darkness) , one of which he took from the ratling homeworld. It would make sense then that a ratling(s) would be present in any attempt to receive said artefacts/return the blacstones. Digging through my IG collection a couple of weeks ago I found my ratling models and thought how awesome a palstic kit will be. Looking forward to this.

**notprop**

My guess for characters; a choice of 6 different Space Marines...

**AndrewGPaul**

Like how Silver Tower had six different Stormcast?

Something more like the mix in Rogue Trader is more likely, with perhaps a Xenos or two. That will depend on the precise nature of the setting, I suppose; Silver Tower was six strangers gathered up at random. This game might have all the characters being from Rogue Trader Draik's crew, or they could be a mix of Rogue Traders and other assorted adventurers, space pirates, aliens, etc.

**notprop**

My guess is no less valid than any other at this point.

Or the Fortress has been discovered by a Kroot Warsphere and you have a choice of six differently coloured birdmen...

**H.B.M.C.**

notprop wrote:
My guess is no less valid than any other at this point.

Except we know some of the plot behind this, and it involves a Rogue Trader.

**AndrewGPaul**

That, and both AoS Warhammer Quest games have had quite a varied cast of characters. Admittedly nine out of ten are from the Grand Alliance of Order, but you've got a Stormcast Eternal, one of the Free Peoples, a Duardin, two Aelfs and a human follower of Chaos in Silver Tower, and a Stormcast, a Duardin and two more Aelfs in Shadows Over Hammerhal. I expect all the heroes in this to be Imperial, but after that? Who knows?

**Grot 6**

Combining it with the Rogue Trader boxed set, and obligatory expansions.. The lean tword smaller skirmish level looks like a good one.

**The Phazer**

AndrewGPaul wrote:
That, and both AoS Warhammer Quest games have had quite a varied cast of characters. Admittedly nine out of ten are from the Grand Alliance of Order, but you've got a Stormcast Eternal, one of the Free Peoples, a Duardin, two Aelfs and a human follower of Chaos in Silver Tower, and a Stormcast, a Duardin and two more Aelfs in Shadows Over Hammerhal. I expect all the heroes in this to be Imperial, but after that? Who knows?

I really wouldn't be surprised if one character was an Eldar Ranger.

**Irbis**

Leggy wrote:
Having a Space Marine does set a higher bar for the heroes though. You can't just have "normal" humans rubbing shoulders with power armoured supersoldiers without breaking the balance or the fluff. Plus you have to explain why the marine is alone. Is he Deathwatch? An Exile? Some new rank of Primaris commando spy?

Funny you mention that, pit say Inquisitor, Comissar Lord or any of the named IG character against Tactical squad sarge and tell me who won with ease. That balance/fluff issue ceased to exist in 'normal' 40K ages ago anyway, sooo...

As for lone SM, explanation is trivially easy. Chapter just gave the RT a bodyguard (or a squad) as a token of thanks for help with something, done. See Ragnar Blackmane series, half of it is him protecting one Imperial official or another.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

I wonder if we might see factional warbands?

So Marines, Rogue Trader, Ig etc, rather than individuals?

**Bobthehero**

AndrewGPaul wrote:
Like how Silver Tower had six different Stormcast?

If you bought the extra character cards, I think it did have 6+ Stormcast, same deal with Khornates

As for humans and SM, give the humans the good stuff, leave Marines in basic PA with boltguns, while the Guardsman has a plasma gun or the Scion has a Volleygun.

**Kanluwen**

Bobthehero wrote:
AndrewGPaul wrote:
Like how Silver Tower had six different Stormcast?

If you bought the extra character cards, I think it did have 6+ Stormcast, same deal with Khornates

There were quite a few, but at least 2 were because it was the same kit(Knight Venator/Azyros) with two different build options.

As for humans and SM, give the humans the good stuff, leave Marines in basic PA with boltguns, while the Guardsman has a plasma gun or the Scion has a Volleygun.

I'm dreaming of Kasrkin personally.

I realize that some might argue I'm crazy...but since the Eye of Terror book we've never actually seen them as their own unique unit. We had them there and never again. And there is a niche open for Guard to get Regiment specific units like Kasrkin or Catachan Devils potentially.

**AndrewGPaul**

I wasn't talking about the extras; if you include those, it had heroes from just about every faction anyway.

If we get a Marine, it won't be an Intercessor. It'll be something that's an exemplar of whichever Chapter he's from, or something really odd.

**StraightSilver**

I wouldn't be totally surprised if we saw at a least a few of the Japanese Space Marine Heroes in there.

So far 5 have been included in Space marine Adventures: Tomb of the Necrons but that's US and Germany only so I think we might either get repeats of these or at least some of the remaining ones.

**Kanluwen**

StraightSilver wrote:
I wouldn't be totally surprised if we saw at a least a few of the Japanese Space Marine Heroes in there.

So far 5 have been included in Space marine Adventures: Tomb of the Necrons but that's US and Germany only so I think we might either get repeats of these or at least some of the remaining ones.

I highly doubt that. They've said they're planning on/trying to figure out a way to bring the Space Marine Heroes range into other markets.

Personal guess with regards to Marines? AndrewGPaul has the right of it. It'll be a hero of some kind, possibly a new unit themed loadout for a Captain or Lieutenant, that could further be fluffed as an exemplar of the Chapter he hails from.

A Reiver outfitted Lieutenant with a Stalker Bolt Rifle and Camo Cloak from the Raven Guard would be a hell of a thing...

**Bobthehero**

AndrewGPaul wrote:
I wasn't talking about the extras; if you include those, it had heroes from just about every faction anyway

Still waiting on the Freeguilds hero...

**AndrewGPaul**

Peachy's using one in the Hang Out & Play videos, although he's not in the Silver Tower app. Not sure where the card for him is from.

**Kanluwen**

AndrewGPaul wrote:
Peachy's using one in the Hang Out & Play videos, although he's not in the Silver Tower app. Not sure where the card for him is from.

There was a big box of cards for Heroes that you could get, maybe he's in there?

**Bobthehero**

He is not, we have the card pack.