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ruralguard wrote:
Pure speculation, but Chaos Lord on separate sprue ready for future individual release?

He's also the only adversary model that doesn't have a duplicate.

I must say, the new Guardsmen sculpts looks excellent (even if they are traitor.) Gives a reasonably good idea what revamped guard might look like.

xerxeshavelock wrote:
Hidden vault will probably be a second campaign.

Eh. If it's just more mission, I'd expect customers to be told to sell more copies.

I honestly expect people who get it early to just tell people what it is. I'm not a fan of hiding material from potential buyers.

Definitely getting a Horizon Zero Dawn vibe from this one.

No idea what this could mean. HZD was, other than robot dinos, a fairly generic open world game with a predictable plot.
And robot Dino's are pretty cliche in their own right.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Folks.

I see in the unboxing thst there’s a sealed envelope included, only to be opened once one has completed the game.

I trust we can all be good sports about this, and not issue spoilers about what is contained?

I for one am defo into keeping it as a reward thing. But even if you’re one to just dive on in (any why not!), can we please keep to spoiler tags about it?

Ahh, this must be what my source was referring to as not wanting to be seen. Hmm, it will be spoiled almost immediately.

Voss wrote:

xerxeshavelock wrote:
Hidden vault will probably be a second campaign.

Eh. If it's just more mission, I'd expect customers to be told to sell more copies.

I honestly expect people who get it early to just tell people what it is. I'm not a fan of hiding material from potential buyers.

Definitely getting a Horizon Zero Dawn vibe from this one.

No idea what this could mean. HZD was, other than robot dinos, a fairly generic open world game with a predictable plot.
And robot Dino's are pretty cliche in their own right.

The "caves" where the dinosaurs were manufactured looked just like the interior of the blackstone fortress. And the plot was neither predictable nor cliche. The art direction and model design was also pretty spectacular.

 Cothonian wrote:
I must say, the new Guardsmen sculpts looks excellent (even if they are traitor.) Gives a reasonably good idea what revamped guard might look like.

Im really happy to see new not nurgle cultists as well non nurgle chaos space marines.

also really stoked that the CSM are way better scaled. squat marines look terrible.

 Asmodai wrote:

ruralguard wrote:
Pure speculation, but Chaos Lord on separate sprue ready for future individual release?

He's also the only adversary model that doesn't have a duplicate.

Is that true? The 2 CSMs don't have dupiclates. Or are there 4 of them in the box?

EDIT: NVM, I see what they did. there's 1 CSM per sprue, but both heads. So you get 2 helmeted and 2 unhelmeted heads.
I also noticed they only have 2 Beastmen legs and torsos per sprue, but by swapping them, you can get 4 "different" poses. Clever

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Thank god, i hate the unhelmeted ones.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Thank god, i hate the unhelmeted ones.

Then I have some bad new for you about the Chaos Lord...

 Crimson wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Thank god, i hate the unhelmeted ones.

Then I have some bad new for you about the Chaos Lord...

Head off, there is only room for one warlord anyways

In the end, despite liking random 40k universe stuff, I decided the models don't justify the price and I doubt the gameplay will measure up to established dungeon crawlers. Already got burned by the dumpster fires called Rogue Trader and Speed Freeks this season (at least the latter has fully usable 40k units). I will surely pick up some cheap hobbit guys at some point for Necromunda.

Fingers crossed the adversaries get expanded into a full Lost and the Damned model line with codex and all.

Only models I’m not entirely convinced by are the Beastmen.

However, we’ve not exactly had nice, clear pics of them. So there’s hope yet. And even then, they’re not awful, just the least good of an otherwise excellent set.

Is there a reason for the coloured plastic GW do lately? Is it purely for people who don't feel like painting the models or is it something else?

Just another thought on the Ur-Ghuls, they're a bit derpy looking, especially with the way the hands are positioned.

Man, I don't want to buy this boxe. I NEED to save money. I can't spend 150 on a boxe, I have so many things to paint. But it is becoming more and more difficult to resist, this release is so perfect !
I guess I could get someone to offer it to me for Xmas ?
And yes, please don't spoil the secret.
(but how are we supposed to open it once we have finished the game if there are millions of different games possible thanks to all the events etc... ?)

You can. You want to.

You know you do......

(It may be 8 years since I was a GW Till Monkey, but the impulse remains!)

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Is there a reason for the coloured plastic GW do lately? Is it purely for people who don't feel like painting the models or is it something else?

Pretty much just so you can get playing right out of the box without having to paint first. Nice for newbies and veterans alike, IMO. Doesn’t mean you’re never going to paint them, but GW seem to have realized that plenty of us end up with large amounts of unpainted minis lying about, and if both sides are grey, it’s definitely harder to see who is who. I found it pretty useful for Warhammer Underworlds, as I’m a slow painter (very little time), but this way I still got to play with family without the minis themselves being a cause for confusion.

The coloured plastics is for those who just want to boardgame (and aren't familiar with the lore), different colours help you clearly identify one side from the other

So Precipice has it's own book and there are space craft in the game... This is starting to sound a lot more like the '90s version of Warhammer Quest than the recent AoS ones.

For those who wonder, matched play datasheets for 40k are in the datasheets booklet. So the surprise must be something else.

looks better and better. The envloppe thing is midly intriguing, but I expect it to only be the ''fluff ending''. Shame about the coloured plastic though

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 xttz wrote:
I was about to post this one. Crazy how far GW scale creep has progressed over the years!

Spoiler:

Take my exalt !

I laughed.

In all seriousness though, I'd love someone to include the RT, 2nd edition and 3rd edition marines in one big line up.


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 streetsamurai wrote:
looks better and better. The envloppe thing is midly intriguing, but I expect it to only be the ''fluff ending''. Shame about the coloured plastic though

Talisman had something like that, you put a random card in an envelope and only when you got to the end did you find out if you had the crown, or unleashed a dragon or whatever.

I wonder if different boxes will have different endings?

 streetsamurai wrote:
Shame about the coloured plastic though

Why? I have a number of the Shadespire and Kill Team minis and the quality of plastic is exactly the same as that of the normal, grey-dyed plastic. Currently mixing some of the Kill Team gren plastic Orks with normal Grey plastic and the difference isn’t noticable (apart from the c9lour, obviously.) Not like the old coloured Space Hulk minis (which I also have), where the plastic does indeed seem somewhat more brittle - but those are already 9 years old by this point.

I wonder whether the sealed packs are different in different sets, Risk Legacy style

Its a shame about the explorer sprue layout, as it probably means they will not be released outside of the big box.

 Insane Ivan wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Shame about the coloured plastic though

Why? I have a number of the Shadespire and Kill Team minis and the quality of plastic is exactly the same as that of the normal, grey-dyed plastic. Currently mixing some of the Kill Team gren plastic Orks with normal Grey plastic and the difference isn’t noticable (apart from the c9lour, obviously.) Not like the old coloured Space Hulk minis (which I also have), where the plastic does indeed seem somewhat more brittle - but those are already 9 years old by this point.

I only found a substantial difference in colored Plastic when it comes to Terrain, the last one i get of the brown one was noticeable harder to clip it out from the sprue.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Its a shame about the explorer sprue layout, as it probably means they will not be released outside of the big box.

They probably will be; the Marines from Deathwatch Overkill were, after all. They just won't be released as individual characters.

 streetsamurai wrote:
looks better and better. The envloppe thing is midly intriguing, but I expect it to only be the ''fluff ending''. Shame about the coloured plastic though

GW doesn't sell non-coloured plastic (and clear HIPS sprues would be quite a pain to assemble, I'd assume).


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 Lord Perversor wrote:


I only found a substantial difference in colored Plastic when it comes to Terrain, the last one i get of the brown one was noticeable harder to clip it out from the sprue.

That's because they use less softener in that mixture, I'd assume, irrespective of what colour the dye is.

All GW miniatures are not only coloured (including "standard grey"), they are all also artificially softened, or the plastic would be much more rigid, similar to the plastic casing on a TV or toaster or something like that.

I mean, I'm sure it's nice being Technically Correct and all, but you all know fine well what people mean when they say the "coloured plastic" is different and that pulling the "ACKSHOOALEEEEEEEEEEEEEE it's all coloured nyeeeh" routine doesn't address the point.

But just so we're all meeting the correct semantic standard: It has often been noted that the particular mix of colourants and other additives used for the plastics produced for boxed sets sometimes creates an end result that has noticeably different properties relative to the standard mix of colourants and additives used in standard product.

I am hoping for a legacy game. Well, a legacyish game at least.

Don't think its a legacy game, given the lack of sealed compartments.

And a legacy game with minis would be...problematic in general.
After all, you can't advertise the hidden minis or you spoil it, and its a hard sell when you don't tell the people what minis it DOES contain. (and if all minis are naturally available from the get-go it means 0 new enemies over time, making it a bit stale.)