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drbored wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:

drbored wrote:
So who else is going to chop the top-knot off of the Chaos leader?

Why is this bothering you?

Just not a fan of the aesthetic of the top knot. I get that it's Abaddon's thing, but on other Chaos Marines it looks... goofy to me. Just personal preference.

I think that the chaos lord will look more badass as bald.

Okay, you could also try to exchange the head with a helmet version but when bald is good enough for you it won´t be necessary.

drbored wrote:
So who else is going to chop the top-knot off of the Chaos leader?

Most certainly i will

Totally agree with you

drbored wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:

drbored wrote:
So who else is going to chop the top-knot off of the Chaos leader?

Why is this bothering you?

Just not a fan of the aesthetic of the top knot. I get that it's Abaddon's thing, but on other Chaos Marines it looks... goofy to me. Just personal preference.

I think that the chaos lord will look more badass as bald.

Among the Sons of Horus (who then became The Black Legion) top knots are pretty common. Just look at their units from the FW site. That being said, it's your personal preference, and ultimately your mini.

deano2099 wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Well, I think it is certainly telling that her performance, looks and credentials are scrutinised in way male presenters' never are...

Yup, I actually agree that the over enthusiasm in the video is insincere and annoying, but no more so than Duncan and Peachy in the same video. You really think they’ve never seen the game before and are learning to play for the first time? That they’re really that excited about the inspiration mechanic?

Though far more annoying than any of that is the director, seemingly the same one who does the Warhammer Conquest videos, who seems to go “hey, perform into this camera, then we will film you from a different one from the side.” I know it’s to break up the to camera bits but it’s horribly artificial and annoying.

She's terrible imo, but GW how to play videos are always terrible. The one for Betrayal at Calth was as bad, and she wasn't involved in it.

They try to go with the ''look how much fun we're having'' theme but it just look forced and corny

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Pretty sure nobody else really cares.

This was apparently not the case.

deano2099 wrote:

Though far more annoying than any of that is the director, seemingly the same one who does the Warhammer Conquest videos, who seems to go “hey, perform into this camera, then we will film you from a different one from the side.” I know it’s to break up the to camera bits but it’s horribly artificial and annoying.

Yes, that is really jarring!

what part of "keep on topic" did you guys not get?
Make your own "Becca Scott" post if you want to keep discussing it, but I'd rather just read about Blackstone Fortress here.

 bullyboy wrote:
what part of "keep on topic" did you guys not get?
Make your own "Becca Scott" post if you want to keep discussing it, but I'd rather just read about Blackstone Fortress here.

Agreed. All of GW's how to play videos come off as insincerely enthusiastic, so I don't really see what the issue is just because someone different is doing it. If it really bothers you and you want to watch a how to play video go watch the GMG one. I'm about half way through it and Ash does a great job (as always).


Speaking of the GMG review Ash mentions that other adventurers are alluded to the background book, what kind of stuff are you guys expecting to see in future expansions?

I dunno man. The "How to Play Blackstone Fortress" video seems like an apt subject in a thread about Blackstone Fortress.

Then again this is a site that said discussing Orktober in the Orktober thread was off topic, so what the hell do I know?

deano2099 wrote:
Though far more annoying than any of that is the director, seemingly the same one who does the Warhammer Conquest videos, who seems to go “hey, perform into this camera, then we will film you from a different one from the side.” I know it’s to break up the to camera bits but it’s horribly artificial and annoying.

That bothered me the second it started.

And yes, I get it's there to add a little movement and life to what is otherwise a straight camera read, but it makes the delivery seem artificial.

As far as being forced is concerned, nah they looked like they were having fun. Peachy was in character as his Ratling duo (I love that one of them is carrying a mini-fridge!), Duncan was using his Ranger to show off to the humans (a very Eldar thing), and the Kroot was getting stuck in and eating everything (and also helping the human that hired him when said human got in too deep, which makes sense).

As for any accusations of 'fakeness', I'll say the same thing I said when I posted a summary of the video - Becca knows the rules through and through. She was being very... careful in how often she had to remind everyone what the rules were, or keep things on track. It was an exercise in diplomacy to keep things moving and make sure - as it was a 'How to play' video - that they didn't wing anything, forget anything or mess anything up whilst at the same time not look like she was nagging them or being a stickler for strict rules observance.

You can dislike her personally sure - 5m going through her Twitter feed screaming about 'the patriarchy' was enough to turn me off - but she very clearly takes her job seriously, even when Peachy kept trying his best to throw everyone off.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I dunno man. The "How to Play Blackstone Fortress" video seems like an apt subject in a thread about Blackstone Fortress.

Then again this is a site that said discussing Orktober in the Orktober thread was off topic, so what the hell do I know?

deano2099 wrote:
Though far more annoying than any of that is the director, seemingly the same one who does the Warhammer Conquest videos, who seems to go “hey, perform into this camera, then we will film you from a different one from the side.” I know it’s to break up the to camera bits but it’s horribly artificial and annoying.

That bothered me the second it started.

And yes, I get it's there to add a little movement and life to what is otherwise a straight camera read, but it makes the delivery seem artificial.

As far as being forced is concerned, nah they looked like they were having fun. Peachy was in character as his Ratling duo (I love that one of them is carrying a mini-fridge!), Duncan was using his Ranger to show off to the humans (a very Eldar thing), and the Kroot was getting stuck in and eating everything (and also helping the human that hired him when said human got in too deep, which makes sense).

As for any accusations of 'fakeness', I'll say the same thing I said when I posted a summary of the video - Becca knows the rules through and through. She was being very... careful in how often she had to remind everyone what the rules were, or keep things on track. It was an exercise in diplomacy to keep things moving and make sure - as it was a 'How to play' video - that they didn't wing anything, forget anything or mess anything up whilst at the same time not look like she was nagging them or being a stickler for strict rules observance.

You can dislike her personally sure - 5m going through her Twitter feed screaming about 'the patriarchy' was enough to turn me off - but she very clearly takes her job seriously, even when Peachy kept trying his best to throw everyone off.

I agree and don´t see why this could be considered off-topic in any way. Her performance made me go to Guerilla Mini Games after listening for approx. three minutes to her presentation. I also thank you for your valuable info about her thought processes on twitter. This will ensure that I won´t waste time with any of her future presentations.

I'll second the recommendation for Ash's video on GMG. He made it look good all by himself and I say this as someone who finds solo play completely pointless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzFF5RIGzMs

 streetsamurai wrote:

deano2099 wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Well, I think it is certainly telling that her performance, looks and credentials are scrutinised in way male presenters' never are...

Yup, I actually agree that the over enthusiasm in the video is insincere and annoying, but no more so than Duncan and Peachy in the same video. You really think they’ve never seen the game before and are learning to play for the first time? That they’re really that excited about the inspiration mechanic?

Though far more annoying than any of that is the director, seemingly the same one who does the Warhammer Conquest videos, who seems to go “hey, perform into this camera, then we will film you from a different one from the side.” I know it’s to break up the to camera bits but it’s horribly artificial and annoying.

She's terrible imo, but GW how to play videos are always terrible. The one for Betrayal at Calth was as bad, and she wasn't involved in it.

They try to go with the ''look how much fun we're having'' theme but it just look forced and corny

And to show an alternative view on the B@C video and the DWOK video, I liked them both.
it's canned to a certain level but you get an idea after a certain point that they really are talking smack with each other.
The Blackstone Fortress video was serviceable IMO.

On topic, there are a bunch of us wanting to pick this up at the FGS.
Many just want the models. I want it for the models and the game.
I'm tempted to buy as it's first coming out but i did that with Silver Tower and never could find a group who would complete the campaign.
With B@C and DWOK I was in a smaller town and found other players (since you only need one opponent for the game to work best for those) who completed those campaigns.

Having watched a number of preview or how to play videos from other games review sites - they all come across as super super enuisiastic and the game is always the best thing ever -especially if its KS related. I esepcially remember the ones about Dropfleet.....

In this case she was being paid to do so (as effectively was everyone round the table), I personally watched it all and found it interesting and useful - I also have been Peachy on a number of occassions getting frustrated that you can't seem to do anything (usually when you have done something stupid) - also the whole who attacks who rang true.

There does seem to be alot of extra flack being dished out which seems to relate to her being female and/or attractive. What are people expecting from a video trying to sell a game!?

I ordered after the run through - I was likely going to anyway but I liked what I saw of the mechanics and since its 1-5 players thats pretty good.

Glancing at her videos - GW ones are her being very tonned down eg:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Having watched a number of preview or how to play videos from other games review sites - they all come across as super super enuisiastic and the game is always the best thing ever -especially if its KS related. I esepcially remember the ones about Dropfleet.....

In this case she was being paid to do so (as effectively was everyone round the table), I personally watched it all and found it interesting and useful - I also have been Peachy on a number of occassions getting frustrated that you can't seem to do anything (usually when you have done something stupid) - also the whole who attacks who rang true.

There does seem to be alot of extra flack being dished out which seems to relate to her being female and/or attractive. What are people expecting from a video trying to sell a game!?

I ordered after the run through - I was likely going to anyway but I liked what I saw of the mechanics and since its 1-5 players thats pretty good.

No, you are wrong. Take a look at my post on page 54. I have absolutely nothing against attractive females, it is only her presentation style that bothered me. There is no need to be a White Knight in this case. But thanks to H.B.M.C.´s revelation there is another reason to avoid her.

deano2099 wrote:
Though far more annoying than any of that is the director, seemingly the same one who does the Warhammer Conquest videos, who seems to go “hey, perform into this camera, then we will film you from a different one from the side.” I know it’s to break up the to camera bits but it’s horribly artificial and annoying.

Oh, this, so very much this! It is such a bizarre and annoying "technique"! I can't watch videos that do this - I had to bring up other windows to cover it, and resort to listening only, which meant I didn't get the full detail of mechanics / board pieces etc.

I've had to sit through "training" videos at work using this dreadful practice as well, and it just is befuddling as to why anyone thinks we want to watch someone talk off-screen like that...


Anyway, I felt that the gameplay was a little too simplistic for me - no real customisations with the heroes, no decisions for the bad guys. I was hoping for a light DnD-esque game set in the 40k world, but this feels more like an overly long game of Monopoly. Even the old (original) WHQ had more choices in it, and the recent DnD Adventures felt more exploratory (and scaled!!). Rather disappointed, currently.

 Mr Morden wrote:

I ordered after the run through - I was likely going to anyway but I liked what I saw of the mechanics and since its 1-5 players thats pretty good.

Even better, the game supports any number of players. There are always exactly 4 heroes but as long as you work out how one player controls several heroes, or several players control a single hero, you can have anywhere from 1 player to hundreds of players!

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

I ordered after the run through - I was likely going to anyway but I liked what I saw of the mechanics and since its 1-5 players thats pretty good.

Even better, the game supports any number of players. There are always exactly 4 heroes but as long as you work out how one player controls several heroes, or several players control a single hero, you can have anywhere from 1 player to hundreds of players!

Twitch plays Blackstone Fortress.
I can imagine 1d4chan organizing something like that for gaks and giggles.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

I ordered after the run through - I was likely going to anyway but I liked what I saw of the mechanics and since its 1-5 players thats pretty good.

Even better, the game supports any number of players. There are always exactly 4 heroes but as long as you work out how one player controls several heroes, or several players control a single hero, you can have anywhere from 1 player to hundreds of players!

yeah its just like Last Night on earth etc - you can play one or multiple hereo's - it really does not matter.

This thread is about Blackstone Fortress.

Please start a different thread if you want to carry on discussing Becca Scott.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Jesus, what happened to those Marines. Did they take a few days off and bring in some Stormcast to sub, or just *really* skipped leg day? o_0

It's a lovely "holding court" scene, but those Marines are downright dainty.

What's wrong with their legs ?

 godardc wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Jesus, what happened to those Marines. Did they take a few days off and bring in some Stormcast to sub, or just *really* skipped leg day? o_0

It's a lovely "holding court" scene, but those Marines are downright dainty.

What's wrong with their legs ?

The reference to Stormcast and the word "dainty" didn't make the issue clear? OK - their legs are thin. Freakishly thin, for Marines. They look like they're wearing Stormcast molded armour, not the chunky greaves and big honkin' plate-feet of a Marine.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 godardc wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Jesus, what happened to those Marines. Did they take a few days off and bring in some Stormcast to sub, or just *really* skipped leg day? o_0

It's a lovely "holding court" scene, but those Marines are downright dainty.

What's wrong with their legs ?

The reference to Stormcast and the word "dainty" didn't make the issue clear? OK - their legs are thin. Freakishly thin, for Marines. They look like they're wearing Stormcast molded armour, not the chunky greaves and big honkin' plate-feet of a Marine.

I disagree. I think the issue is just that black is a slimming color, and therefore they look thin because of that. Compared to a Primaris, they look very similar in proportions.

For those not sure what the discussion is about, I believe Yodhrin is referring to this pic.

He means in the art. I think they look great in the art, fitting a more realistic look.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
He means in the art. I think they look great in the art, fitting a more realistic look.

Thanks; I got that after I traced the comment back and looked at the earlier link.

No worries, I saw that after I posted, you had already edited.

Anyone know about the facing of the D6, D8, D12 special dice?

Different strokes I guess, Space Marines aren't supposed to look "realistic" IMO, they're supposed to look like 7+ foot tall walking tanks made of muscle and armour.

 Strg Alt wrote:

drbored wrote:
So who else is going to chop the top-knot off of the Chaos leader?

Why is this bothering you?

I forget sometimes anyone can have a reaction to topknots that is something other than absolute loathing.

Every single model I've ever gotten with a topknot I've shaved off, often I clip it off at the sprue. They look incredibly doofy and I don't blame anyone for hating them. Thankfully they're easy to remove.

Chopstick wrote:
Anyone know about the facing of the D6, D8, D12 special dice?

I'm also curious about this, from a stats point of view