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I don't have any nostalgia for the Ambul and I agree it's a great sculpt.

It's a very nice redesign. I don't remember any ambull lore from the beforetimes so I don't know if the whole thing about it carrying larvae in its skin like a horrific sponge is a new addition, but they've skated a very nice line between faithfulness and reinvention.

it's so gross though!

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
It's a very nice redesign. I don't remember any ambull lore from the beforetimes so I don't know if the whole thing about it carrying larvae in its skin like a horrific sponge is a new addition, but they've skated a very nice line between faithfulness and reinvention.

It's a very faithful reproduction of an Umber Hulk. ^_~

 Chairman Aeon wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
It's a very nice redesign. I don't remember any ambull lore from the beforetimes so I don't know if the whole thing about it carrying larvae in its skin like a horrific sponge is a new addition, but they've skated a very nice line between faithfulness and reinvention.

It's a very faithful reproduction of an Umber Hulk. ^_~

I always thought so too - but now since you've brought it up, I can post one of my favorite pics of it!



Loved Jeff Dee's work, 'back in the day'.

Does the Ambull have a 'confusion' ability too?

Can it burrow through surfaces quickly too?

Would be nice if it could!

And yes, 1st Edition Umber Hulk is best Umber Hulk!

(Maybe 2d Edition too - but boy did they end up screwing it up in later editions! )

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
First expansion?

The Dreaded Ambull!

Ah! That was a rumor mill spoiler image from last year! Nice!

I think i'm going to have to pick up one or two of these for my wandering monster scenarios for AoS. They'll fit perfectly.

 Chairman Aeon wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
It's a very nice redesign. I don't remember any ambull lore from the beforetimes so I don't know if the whole thing about it carrying larvae in its skin like a horrific sponge is a new addition, but they've skated a very nice line between faithfulness and reinvention.

It's a very faithful reproduction of an Umber Hulk. ^_~

The original model was, but this one, not so much. There's never been any discussion of the reproductive cycle of the ambull, so while those grubs are new, they don't contradict anything.


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I think i'm going to have to pick up one or two of these for my wandering monster scenarios for AoS. They'll fit perfectly.

There was once a WFRP scenario featuring an Ambull, so there's precedent.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Chairman Aeon wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
It's a very nice redesign. I don't remember any ambull lore from the beforetimes so I don't know if the whole thing about it carrying larvae in its skin like a horrific sponge is a new addition, but they've skated a very nice line between faithfulness and reinvention.

It's a very faithful reproduction of an Umber Hulk. ^_~

The original model was, but this one, not so much. There's never been any discussion of the reproductive cycle of the ambull, so while those grubs are new, they don't contradict anything.

Well this looks like it's a more current pic of the Umber Hulk, so it does look like a faithful reproduction of the monster...

Yes, the old Ambull looked pretty much exactly like that. The new one? Less so, like I said. They didn't paint it brown, for a start.

It's not the only thing that looks like it escaped from the Monster manual and made its way into 40k; Enslavers aren't a million miles from Beholders, for example. Perhaps they had a page to fill and the deadline looming in 1988.

To me the ambull does look like the Umber Hulk pic I posted (even if it is a different color). It looks more like that Umber Hulk than it does the original artwork...

None of the pics you've posted look anything more than superficially like the new Ambull.

It's a nice enough model, but I think this'll be a solid pass for me unless I can come up with a reason to buy it - a rare and occasional encounter in Blackstone Fortress doesn't justify that cost.

I think it'd see more use in a custom Necromunda scenario, but as a whole, I see nothing that excites me - not even the nostalgia nod.

Was there any hint to what the other expansions would be? Presuming as what others have posted more hero’s & enemies, but any idea of what they would be?

I think (and hope) that anything (and everything) from the early days of the rogue trader era could be expansion fodder.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
None of the pics you've posted look anything more than superficially like the new Ambull.

The third edition one (the color drawing, where the monster is brown) blatantly does. Mandibles, claws, eyes, general shape of the carapace and arms, with 'knuckles' dragging on the ground.
Yes, details differ, but there are clearly influences.

Calistro wrote:Was there any hint to what the other expansions would be? Presuming as what others have posted more hero’s & enemies, but any idea of what they would be?

Didn't see any hints myself, but heroes have pretty much the full range to go through.

Specific RT era critters/monsters that could pop up-
Slaan
Zoats
original flavor (leech head) Genestealers
Astral Hounds and Spectres
Enslavers
Psychneuein
Vampires
Catachan Devils
Cthellean Cudbears (unlikely- think Sasquatch bears, but make them purple and extra fuzzy, described as a 'typical' death world carnivore)

There are some other, fairly boring creatures- Grox (lizard cattle, basically), Crotalids (komodo dragons, without much to recommend them), and Ferro-beast (a GW version of the D&D rust monster)
Oh, and Vampires, psyker shapeshifters that look like humanoid bats in their natural form. Also unlikely, because they're just... vampires, but ugly by default. Really no reason to toss them in modern 40k as is (especially with Blood Angels around).
They'll probably avoid generic warp creatures in favor of chaos god stuff (if any of that hits BS Fortress directly).


They could raise a lot of interesting background questions if the fortress has lost or rare Tyranid creatures in a zoo or specimen lab, if they choose to go that route rather than chaos. I'd prefer either to a 'monster of the fiscal quarter' expansion along the lines of this one.

Voss wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
None of the pics you've posted look anything more than superficially like the new Ambull.

The third edition one (the color drawing, where the monster is brown) blatantly does. Mandibles, claws, eyes, general shape of the carapace and arms, with 'knuckles' dragging on the ground.
Yes, details differ, but there are clearly influences.

Calistro wrote:Was there any hint to what the other expansions would be? Presuming as what others have posted more hero’s & enemies, but any idea of what they would be?

Didn't see any hints myself, but heroes have pretty much the full range to go through.

Specific RT era critters/monsters that could pop up-
Slaan
Zoats
original flavor (leech head) Genestealers
Astral Hounds and Spectres
Enslavers
Psychneuein
Vampires
Catachan Devils
Cthellean Cudbears (unlikely- think Sasquatch bears, but make them purple and extra fuzzy, described as a 'typical' death world carnivore)

There are some other, fairly boring creatures- Grox (lizard cattle, basically), Crotalids (komodo dragons, without much to recommend them), and Ferro-beast (a GW version of the D&D rust monster)
Oh, and Vampires, psyker shapeshifters that look like humanoid bats in their natural form. Also unlikely, because they're just... vampires, but ugly by default. Really no reason to toss them in modern 40k as is (especially with Blood Angels around).
They'll probably avoid generic warp creatures in favor of chaos god stuff (if any of that hits BS Fortress directly).


They could raise a lot of interesting background questions if the fortress has lost or rare Tyranid creatures in a zoo or specimen lab, if they choose to go that route rather than chaos. I'd prefer either to a 'monster of the fiscal quarter' expansion along the lines of this one.

Cool, thanks the original rogue trader was quite before my time and know one I know has a copy, but going through the community website they say " We’ll have more news for you about what’ll be in the expansions in the new year, but for now, we can assure you that more explorers will be making their way to the Blackstone Fortress in search of its secrets – while horrors beyond those we’ve already seen lurk further inside its labyrinthine depths." From https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/11/25/the-future-of-warhammer-quest-blackstone-fortressgw-homepage-post-2/

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My bad

I have no intention of getting BSF, but I definitely want The Dreaded Ambull. Its got Metroid Prime written all over it and a fantastic update of the original model!

Seriously, why could this not be a game on its own, dammit!

My guess for a scenario, it's in there running around, found a nice spot to nest up at, and your explorers come across it. OR its is out hunting for food, and you come across it Alien Xenomorph style.... Its the Giant monster scenario that you come across.

He's a big one, looks like around the Dred size, so he's going to be a challenge for one or two guys... you'd better bring your big guns for this one.

Link for reference on this one...
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ambull

Or maybe it stays in the shuttle at the Precipice And you can visit it whenever you are in the mood for a challenge. Can't wait to find out more

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
So we are going down the Kingdom Death Monster route with since enemy expansions...

It made me think even more of Shadows of Brimstone. The game itself seems to owe a lot in design and structure to that game - the town/ship phase especially - and they have similar single monster expansions.

Shadows of Brimstone is heavily influenced by the original Warhammer Quest, which also had a town phase.

Anyone have an idea of when this might be up for release?

Ambull: Move 3, Wounds 16, size Huge
Enormous mandibles - Two triangles at range 1, Null at 2+
Eviscerating blow - every time you suffer a wound, take an additional wound
Always takes two actions (roll, perform action, roll again, perform action).
Never pinned when moving.
Also has some kind of ability to heal each turn (including grievous wounds), and looks like it runs away when it takes 16 or more wounds so you can hunt it (possibly?).

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2125182/dreaded-ambull

Cain killed a nest of THOSE and wanted to make STEAKS out of their bug-infested meat? Eww.



I really like this model. The orange and blue scheme is really striking, no matter how overused the orange-blue contrast might be in art and media.

 Binabik15 wrote:
Cain killed a nest of THOSE and wanted to make STEAKS out of their bug-infested meat? Eww.

It‘s basically a giant lobster, so why not? Surf‘n‘Turf Grim Dark.

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:
Cain killed a nest of THOSE and wanted to make STEAKS out of their bug-infested meat? Eww.

It‘s basically a giant lobster, so why not? Surf‘n‘Turf Grim Dark.

I mean because they're now filled with tiny ugly baby Ambulls, like maggot-spoiled steaks.

...which are now, what, big crawfish sized? - Add still possible to enjoy!

And quite possibly a 40K Delicacy!

GET INTO IT!

Ambull steaks and Ambull caviar. Admittedly you need to wrestle the caviar back into the pot ...