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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I saw that and wondered if it might be a red herring; it seems too obvious as being part of the upcoming Battletome: Pointy Aelves release. Which then made me wonder if Exodites. But I'm probably overthinking it.

I mean, Pointy Aelves isn't supposed to be until Spring. We're going to see a reveal/teaser at LVO, not the whole range. Some of the Idoneth stuff ended up being a surprise so I can't say I would be shocked on this.

I wish that were the staff top for a skink or something.
Wanting new Seraphon badly.

ccs wrote:
Looks like it's the top of a staff.

In Warhammer, never rule out a hat.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

ccs wrote:
Looks like it's the top of a staff.

In Warhammer, never rule out a hat.

Of course not. It's just that the first thing that comes to my mind is the top of some sort of staff. So that's what I'll assume until we see the actual model.

Seraphon skink priest staff top.
Every time we get new Seraphon it always begins with yet another skink priest lol.

Could just be my desire for more lizards anyway.
Currently I’d kill for a usable book and plastic krox.

It wont be a skink staff. All the current staffs have either glyphs and stone shaped heads with decoration, or are crystals on a stick.

Also, it looks like a topknot style headdress with 'fur' or some other fibres to be the crest. Those don't look like feathers, which is generally what skinks would wear as a symbol of station.

It could be a hat on a glyphed head on a staff.

And now we know. It's the helmet plume of pointy elf spearmen.

Not a fan of the Teclis mini at all, but the spearmen, cavalry and Eltharion are spot on and they'll even fit in my High elves army- 10/10.

Looks good. Get a 3.0 version of the game that is a bit more advanced and removes double turns (preferably alternate activation), removes the absurd level of free extra points via summoning and things like summoning, adds terrain and line of sight changes, and I'd be interested in expanding the elf collection I have.

{eyes Advanced Age of Sigmar rules in mah playtest group and keeps writing}

I mean, saying AoS would be a good game if it weren't AoS is a weird flex...but ok.

Anyway, I am not a super fan of elves in general. Probably a byproduct of the fact that the very first Fantasy novel I read when I was 12 was Dragons of Autumn Twilight...and, well, who wouldn't hate haughty elves after reading that

Now that being said I actually really, really like these sculpts. So much so that I might even grab some for my Cities of Sigmar army just for kicks.

 auticus wrote:
Looks good. Get a 3.0 version of the game that is a bit more advanced and removes double turns (preferably alternate activation), removes the absurd level of free extra points via summoning and things like summoning, adds terrain and line of sight changes, and I'd be interested in expanding the elf collection I have.

{eyes Advanced Age of Sigmar rules in mah playtest group and keeps writing}

I love where AOS is at right now, the only thing i would change would be the double turns, but everything else is fine and i played 3 armies with 0 summoning and 1 with very limited summoning, it has never been a problem for me.
When i start and was new, sure but after knowing the game, nah its fine.

As for Pointing aelves, they look fine other than His pose on that mount. I personally don't like that style of Elf anyways, but i know a lot that do and i'm happy for them. I'm more excited that the Seraphon finally has a Ziggurat lol.

 auticus wrote:
Looks good. Get a 3.0 version of the game that is a bit more advanced and removes double turns (preferably alternate activation), removes the absurd level of free extra points via summoning and things like summoning, adds terrain and line of sight changes, and I'd be interested in expanding the elf collection I have.

{eyes Advanced Age of Sigmar rules in mah playtest group and keeps writing}

Or you could just expand your elves with them anyways for use in whatever version you do play.

We have a rewrite project going on I'm doing on the side of doing Conquest (the fantasy game not 40k). Rewrite being a different version of AOS with army book rebalancings for those new rules using linear regression predictive models (the same basic packages I wrote for Azyr (Azyr comp not Azyr their army builder they created after Azyr Comp) only upgraded to include better machine learning potential)

Once that is done I'm probably going to grab up some of the new chaos models since I am a warriors of chaos player at my core and we are going to be playtesting a bunch. The new elves though do look pretty cool.

I have a dark elf army thats been in a display case since 2015 so I am interested to see what direction they go with those. If they are close to the high elf resculpts they would definitely have my attention with a different set of rules.

I love where AOS is at right now, the only thing i would change would be the double turns, but everything else is fine and i played 3 armies with 0 summoning and 1 with very limited summoning, it has never been a problem for me.
When i start and was new, sure but after knowing the game, nah its fine.

Thats cool. I'm glad you enjoy AOS as it is. I did a conquest content video that explains what motivates and attracts me to a wargame: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPGv-UZMtak

 CoreCommander wrote:
Not a fan of the Teclis mini at all, but the spearmen, cavalry and Eltharion are spot on and they'll even fit in my High elves army- 10/10.

Yep, same feelings here. I like the weird cat-bird monster honestly, but I really don't like the pose they put Teclis in to, or the face on the mini. I much preferred the graceful, serene look from the art. Such a shame, least favorite model is the army's big center-piece!

If they adjusted points to reflect that summoning doesn’t exist anymore (to reflect against things like SC and Dwarves and Elves, etc) I’d be perfectly okay as an HoS player to lose summoning. 100%. And the double turn. But GW seems to feel the double turn is one of the unique aspects of AoS (unique, of necessarily “good”). And summoning is an excuse to buy more models than your army “needs”. So...expect both to stay, unfortunately.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
If they adjusted points to reflect that summoning doesn’t exist anymore (to reflect against things like SC and Dwarves and Elves, etc) I’d be perfectly okay as an HoS player to lose summoning. 100%. And the double turn. But GW seems to feel the double turn is one of the unique aspects of AoS (unique, of necessarily “good”). And summoning is an excuse to buy more models than your army “needs”. So...expect both to stay, unfortunately.

Fully expect both to stay that was my point of no return.

Anyone got any ideas of how big eltharion is?
Trying to find a shot that gives away how big he is.

Would make a great recruit in my Nighthaunt army.

Jackal90 wrote:
Anyone got any ideas of how big eltharion is?
Trying to find a shot that gives away how big he is.

Would make a great recruit in my Nighthaunt army.

He looks like (but not known, just IMO) he is on a 40mm base, i would say about the same size of Drazhar maybe?

I'm still not 100% on the new Teclis mini. I keep hearing 'Can't Touch This' playing in my head when I look at it. But the rest of the range is sweet.

And yeah I think AoS is in a good place over all. It's just the three usual suspects (double turn, summoning and mortal wound spamming) that are problematic. And I still think that there's a way to fix those.

 Amishprn86 wrote:

Jackal90 wrote:
Anyone got any ideas of how big eltharion is?
Trying to find a shot that gives away how big he is.

Would make a great recruit in my Nighthaunt army.

He looks like (but not known, just IMO) he is on a 40mm base, i would say about the same size of Drazhar maybe?

That was my first thought as I was trying to work out scaling by his base decoration.
Just worried as AoS has a bad habit of making things unnaturally large lol.

I can make use out of him on a 40mm or even a 60mm, but in between would be a pain.

Jackal90 wrote:

 Amishprn86 wrote:

Jackal90 wrote:
Anyone got any ideas of how big eltharion is?
Trying to find a shot that gives away how big he is.

Would make a great recruit in my Nighthaunt army.

He looks like (but not known, just IMO) he is on a 40mm base, i would say about the same size of Drazhar maybe?

That was my first thought as I was trying to work out scaling by his base decoration.
Just worried as AoS has a bad habit of making things unnaturally large lol.

I can make use out of him on a 40mm or even a 60mm, but in between would be a pain.

Yeah, but at the same time sometimes they are smaller, me and my local thought the new Mortek Guard was going to be bigger and on 28mm bases lol. I'm pretty sure its about 40mm, maybe 50mm, i can't see it on 60mm at all, but again i could be wrong.

 Amishprn86 wrote:

Jackal90 wrote:

 Amishprn86 wrote:

Jackal90 wrote:
Anyone got any ideas of how big eltharion is?
Trying to find a shot that gives away how big he is.

Would make a great recruit in my Nighthaunt army.

He looks like (but not known, just IMO) he is on a 40mm base, i would say about the same size of Drazhar maybe?

That was my first thought as I was trying to work out scaling by his base decoration.
Just worried as AoS has a bad habit of making things unnaturally large lol.

I can make use out of him on a 40mm or even a 60mm, but in between would be a pain.

Yeah, but at the same time sometimes they are smaller, me and my local thought the new Mortek Guard was going to be bigger and on 28mm bases lol. I'm pretty sure its about 40mm, maybe 50mm, i can't see it on 60mm at all, but again i could be wrong.

As long as it’s either normal character or monster size I can use it in my Nighthaunt lol.
Anything in between the 2 and I won’t have any real use for it sadly.

Okay, for funsies lets hear silly list ideas! (No, this is not for balance discussion.) 2000 points matched play, must be at least viable but doesn't need to be strong.

Nurgle; Lord of Afflictions, 3x4 Pusgoyles, Affliction Cyst, Gutrot Spume, 10x Blightkings. Null-deploy army that goes completely in reserve... With NURGLE! The advantage here is obvious, with the plan being that tactical freedom and later-game summons for objectives can overcome lack of numbers.

Tzeentch, Guild of Summoners; 6x Gaunt Summoners, 3x Acolytes, 260 points of anvil/chaff. First hero phase each gaunt brings in a unit of pink horrors, making for 15 potential spellcasts. Get 9 of them off and you can summon a Lord of Change for a semi-reliable 3560 points he table turn one which I'm pretty sure that is a new record. At this point the sheer amount of shooters and magic present sould be more than enough to overcome their poor composition.

Bonereapers, Crematorians; Soulmason, 3x40 Mortek Guard, Shield-Corps, 2x Harvester. No subtlety, no tactics, just march forward with a wall and trust that 120 tough exploding regenerating skeletons will deplete the enemy bodies before the enemy does them.

That Tzeentch list doesn't sound fun to paint (not that That Guy would care), and definitely not fun to play against. Hopefully something will happen in the FAQ to prevent that sort of thing. Maybe their free summon can be limited to only one Gaunt Summoner per game, or Gaunt Summoners could become a unique profile. Based on their lore, they should probably be unique anyway. If only 9 exist in the multiverse, why would Tzeentch risk more than one in a single battle?

Until you go against 1 drop army with shooting and then you go second, all your Gaunt summoners are shot off so you don't have to place them.

Lol! That's the mitigating factor, I guess. If you can get in range of them, Gaunt Summoners die to a dirty look.

 EnTyme wrote:
If only 9 exist in the multiverse, why would Tzeentch risk more than one in a single battle?

Because he's got a plan! And a plan within that plan. And a plan within the plan that's within the first plan. And on it goes.

"I'm the dude playin' a dude disguised as another dude!" - The Changeling

 EnTyme wrote:
Lol! That's the mitigating factor, I guess. If you can get in range of them, Gaunt Summoners die to a dirty look.

Well kinda being funny but at the same time serious.

There are 2 armies right now that can 1 drop with shooting and get to them easily. DoT and BoC. Both can have insane shooting at range and fast moving (18-24" range with 15-24" movements and teleports).