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CadianSgtBob wrote:

The thing with Luke gets a bit weird with ANH. He gets dad's lightsaber and it's a new thing, not "oh hey I remember that creepy woman tried to kill me with one of these!". And Owen gets his ass kicked by an evil jedi but still wants to send away the only guy who might be able to stop Luke from getting chopped into tiny pieces next time one shows up?

Luke never sees Reva's lightsaber. When she enters the room in the farm, he's already halfway out the roof hatch and never looks back, and once she's chasing him in the desert it's stowed, and he's unconscious for the last bit. She's just a robed stranger in the dark who he's been told prior is a Tusken.

As for Owen... The one time Obi-Wan's protection but have been useful, he wasn't there. So he's likely not thinking it's any great loss.


That was a fun finale, and did a reasonable job of tying up loose ends and plugging wobbly continuity created by the original movies being made up as they went along. Here's hoping Season 2 goes ahead.


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 LordofHats wrote:

Clearly he did. After being buried in rock he could have just bided his time, let Vader leave, and then slip off. Instead he pursued, clearly intending to finish what started on Mustafar. Then he just doesn't. For no reason.

Ben visibly chokes up and deflates when Vader looks up and he sees Anakin's face looking at him. Felt like a pretty big reason, to me.

Reva Boba’s Tusken Bird?

 insaniak wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:

Clearly he did. After being buried in rock he could have just bided his time, let Vader leave, and then slip off. Instead he pursued, clearly intending to finish what started on Mustafar. Then he just doesn't. For no reason.

Ben visibly chokes up and deflates when Vader looks up and he sees Anakin's face looking at him. Felt like a pretty big reason, to me.

I once again come out of this discussion with the impression that Kenobi is an utter monster, either incapable of mercy or just plain unwilling to give it. He wants his former 'brother' tormented endlessly in a painful half-existence, and finally twist the knife from beyond the grave with a bit of planned patricide at the end. He just refuses the kind ending at every opportunity, and would prefer to sacrifice pawns (like Reva) for another emotional stroke rather than coordinate an end to Vader's continuing rampage on the galaxy.

In retrospect of Kenobi and Boba Fett, compared to The Mandolorian and the MCU tv shows.

I think we’re seeing clear examples of a film plot and script reworked for television (the two former) and something written specifically for tv.

They are different platforms, and each requires different things. And when one is written for the former, then adapted and serialised for the latter, it shows.

I suspect someone which actual competence in such things could do a strategic trimming of Boba and Kenobi, to make each into say, a two hour movie and get pretty decent results.

Whereas Mando and the MCU shows you couldn’t, because they’re more carefully structured for serialised, episodic story telling.

The proof of the pudding SW wise will of course be Andor. So far as I know, unlike Boba and Kenobi, it was always conceived as a tv show, just as Mando was? And so it’s scripts and plots will have been designed to provide interesting stopping and pick up points across its run.

D+ in particular brought a new freedom for episodic storytelling where if one episode only needs 25 minutes to tell it’s tale, but another needs 50 minutes? They can absolutely do that. Because none of it needs to be hammered around broadcasting time slots and advertising.

 Geifer wrote:


Time for a good, old fashioned well actually:

"When I left you I was but the learner. Now I am the master."

Phrased as it is this fits neither this show nor the fight on Mustafar. Both times Obi Wan was the one that left, not Vader. It's a far better fit for leaving the Jedi (and Obi Wan as his master if you prefer to look at it as a personal thing) for apprenticeship with the Sith/Palpi.

There is no need for Obi Wan to win the last fight, much less curb stomp Vader. The way it's phrased Vader cannot possibly refer to their last fight (unless they have another one in the future) and therefore the master part could easily be understood as a reminder that he's no longer the Padawan in need of guidance, which would be more fittingly underlined by getting closer to beating Obi Wan the last time than getting his face wrecked.

Personally I think the writing for this fight misses the point completely. But that's par for the course for this show, I guess.

It would have been fantastic for a big punch up (metaphorically) to have taken place, but a damaged and wheezing Vadar to have overcome the weaknesses highlighted previously and beaten Obi Wan. A measure of peace (given he is quite laid back in the first film) and a throwaway line of 'goodbye master' or somesuch, leaving Ben broken and beaten would have fitted better with Vadar becoming a commanding presence, Obi Wan hiding in the desert until sought out. It would also have shown the Empire not just winning, which logically it must have a few times, but actually dominating, which Disney can't bring itself to show. If it wants to do interwar films it will at some point have to bite the bullet of showing why the Empire is calling the shots or give up on being anything more than a fantasy for kids.

 insaniak wrote:
Here's hoping Season 2 goes ahead.

Here's my pitch:

Little Leia is finally old enough to start her political career and is sent on her first ambassadorial assignment to Obadiah. Bail tries to appeal to the senate committee in charge that sending a twelve year old to spice central is not a good idea, and almost succeeds if it wasn't for Leia insisting that nothing could possibly go wrong as Disney princesses don't do drugs. Thus convinced, Bail gets behind the committee's decision and Leia is off on an exciting political adventure.

Meanwhile the Pykes lay the foundation of their long term plan to take over Tatooine from the Hutts by running a choo choo train from A to C via B, where B just so happens to be the Lars farm. Owen of course is not thrilled to find syndicate enforcers asking him very politely to hand over the deed for his farm, but he knows he can rely on Obi Wan to protect them. Obi Wan is there the next time the Pykes show up, waves his hand all weird like and tells them to shove off, and to everyone's surprise, they shove off. But of course that is not a permanent solution, so Obi Wan has to go to Obadiah to somehow alter the syndicate's plans.

Arriving undercover as a merchant looking to buy spice, Obi Wan is surprised to see Leia at a social gathering and only just so manages to stop her from blowing his cover. But as discreet as they are, their familiarity does not go unnoticed by the Pykes and may prove to be Obi Wan's undoing in the end! But for now, he is in the right place to infiltrate the Pykes' planning office and manipulate their documents to run their train through D rather than B. It's a subtle shift that should go unnoticed and save the farm.

Of course the Pykes on Tatooine come back with empty hands after they shoved off in accordance with their own free will and through no outside suggestion at all, and report that for reasons the plan as it stands cannot be put into action. Boss Pyke pulls out his plan and asks them to elaborate after sending the groups leader to a dungeon cell for incompetence, and finds that there is a discrepancy between the plan and his enforcers' report. Checking security footage from the gathering, it seems that the merchant that his underlings identify as one of the farmers on Tatooine excused himself early, and through the wrong door to boot, only to appear again later and act as if nothing had happened. Wanting a word with him, Boss Pyke sends his enforcers to apprehend Obi Wan, but Obi Wan would rather avoid capture and escapes. He returns to Tatooine and all could be well, if only Boss Pyke hadn't connected him to the new ambassador!

Just when Obi Wan takes his leave after telling Owen that everything is sorted out, a messenger droid appears and delivers a sinister threat from Boss Pyke. He has Leia! Who is she to Obi Wan? Who knows? But if she gets Boss Pyke that conversation with Obi Wan, who cares? He is to come within a reasonable time frame, of course alone and unarmed. Obi Wan uses the Force to sense imminent treachery and prefers to come up with a different plan. A bold one, too. The Empire cannot allow criminals to abduct a senator's daughter. That is outrageous and a privilege reserved to Imperials! So Obi Wan does the one thing no one expects. He goes looking for Reva for her obligatory appearance in Obi Wan Kenobi season 2 and asks her for help. She immediately know what to do, dusts off her Inquisitor uniform and drags him out to a remote garrison on the slow side of the Outer Rim. She assembles an Imperial strike force after Force choking an officer who wants to see her orders, and they arrive in orbit over Obadiah soon after. While she invites herself to Boss Pyke's office using lots of big words and demands to inspect their operation, Obi Wan slips into the dungeon unnoticed to find Leia. He gets her out, but a Pyke patrol notices them and sounds the alarm. Cliffhanger time.

In spite of the lack of surplus coats at the Pyke's, Obi Wan and Leia make it pretty far before a large force of enforcers corners them. Obi Wan knows he can't fight his way out without endangering Leia, so he waits for the situation to resolve itself. Because wouldn't you know it, while Reva is getting her tour, there's an alarm. Boss Pyke of course assured her there's nothing to worry about and it's probably just one of those unscheduled security drills that are supposed to keep everyone on their toes, but Reva's like yeah, well, choke on this! After Boss Pyke is out of the picture and she taps into Pyke communication, Reva leads her strike force to find and rescue Obi Wan and Leia. They arrive just when things start getting hairy and in an unseen display of competence, the Stormtroopers that unexpectedly find themselves on the right side of history simply massacre those evil drug pushing enforcers. Just when it looks like they can get back on their dropship, plentiful Pykes pour in and surround them. Because who knew, Boss Pyke had a boss of his own. But Pykes are businessmen, so Reva is allowed to explain herself. She pulls out a hologram with Boss Pyke's confession that he abducted a senator's daughter. She tells him that Boss Pyke has paid for his crime with his life and that it would be unfortunate if it was revealed that this was not a crime committed by a rogue individual, and Boss Pyke's boss gets the hint and lets them go back to the safety of their ship. Then wrap up, goodbyes and happy ends all around!

Yes, all that just to explain why Obi Wan thinks Stormtroopers are crack shots.

The best excuse I can offer is that killing Vader doesn't really accomplish anything. He's a pawn, a very very dangerous pawn that it actively killing innocent people across the galaxy, but still a pawn that will be replaced as soon as he falls. If the goal is to train Luke to take on Palpatine, removing Vader overall makes that harder to engineer. I mean, its a pretty dubious "plan" no matter how much "the Force Whils it" you want to lean on.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
In retrospect of Kenobi and Boba Fett, compared to The Mandolorian and the MCU tv shows.

I think we’re seeing clear examples of a film plot and script reworked for television (the two former) and something written specifically for tv.

They are different platforms, and each requires different things. And when one is written for the former, then adapted and serialised for the latter, it shows.

I suspect someone which actual competence in such things could do a strategic trimming of Boba and Kenobi, to make each into say, a two hour movie and get pretty decent results.

Whereas Mando and the MCU shows you couldn’t, because they’re more carefully structured for serialised, episodic story telling.

The proof of the pudding SW wise will of course be Andor. So far as I know, unlike Boba and Kenobi, it was always conceived as a tv show, just as Mando was? And so it’s scripts and plots will have been designed to provide interesting stopping and pick up points across its run.

D+ in particular brought a new freedom for episodic storytelling where if one episode only needs 25 minutes to tell it’s tale, but another needs 50 minutes? They can absolutely do that. Because none of it needs to be hammered around broadcasting time slots and advertising.

I'm not sure it's the runtime. When it comes down to it, once you remove the credits and story so far intros, you're looking a three and a half hours for all six episodes. Granted, the Marvel movies have been able to tell good stories in two hours, so maybe that's the sweet spot you'd like to hit, but then I'm thinking of the Lord of the Rings and those had extended editions which I found to universally improve on the theatrical versions while upping runtime to three and a half hours. If the material is there, if the writers and director are good at their jobs, you can fill that time meaningfully and not make it seem like a drag.

You could easily make a briefer version of Obi Wan, but I'm not sure if anything that's there is just useless padding. For all I criticize the execution and some of the underlying ideas, I don't think I've seen anything that doesn't add something of interest.

The_Real_Chris wrote:

 Geifer wrote:


Time for a good, old fashioned well actually:

"When I left you I was but the learner. Now I am the master."

Phrased as it is this fits neither this show nor the fight on Mustafar. Both times Obi Wan was the one that left, not Vader. It's a far better fit for leaving the Jedi (and Obi Wan as his master if you prefer to look at it as a personal thing) for apprenticeship with the Sith/Palpi.

There is no need for Obi Wan to win the last fight, much less curb stomp Vader. The way it's phrased Vader cannot possibly refer to their last fight (unless they have another one in the future) and therefore the master part could easily be understood as a reminder that he's no longer the Padawan in need of guidance, which would be more fittingly underlined by getting closer to beating Obi Wan the last time than getting his face wrecked.

Personally I think the writing for this fight misses the point completely. But that's par for the course for this show, I guess.

It would have been fantastic for a big punch up (metaphorically) to have taken place, but a damaged and wheezing Vadar to have overcome the weaknesses highlighted previously and beaten Obi Wan. A measure of peace (given he is quite laid back in the first film) and a throwaway line of 'goodbye master' or somesuch, leaving Ben broken and beaten would have fitted better with Vadar becoming a commanding presence, Obi Wan hiding in the desert until sought out. It would also have shown the Empire not just winning, which logically it must have a few times, but actually dominating, which Disney can't bring itself to show. If it wants to do interwar films it will at some point have to bite the bullet of showing why the Empire is calling the shots or give up on being anything more than a fantasy for kids.

I can excuse a lot so long as it's fun, but showing the Empire even at the height of its power as useless is a pretty big problem. What's the point if the "big heroes" don't have credible challenges to overcome?

I'm not even sure I can write a lot about that. It's such a simple concept. Would anyone who's into heist movies watch a movie in which the bank robbers put on a fake mustache, walk right past the lone security guard who can't be bothered to take his face out of the newspaper for a single look, go into the unlocked vault to fill up their bags and walk out again unchallenged?

When it comes down to it that's the Empire in Obi Wan (and not just there, unfortunately).

Will there be a Kenobi S2? Officially nothing is announced.

But…..

tneva82 wrote:
Maybe. But obi wan isn't coward and he has beaten vader twlce. I doubt he would hold back because vader might be dangerous to appoach. Attacking intact vader was even more dangerous.

The "can't get himself kill vader in cold blood once he's on ground" i can live with. Not how i would have prefered it to end but beats "he might still be dangerous".

In my opinion we, the public, have basically been prepped and "indoctrinated" by almost all media to see two combatants in conflict with one another who desire to and fight one another to want to kill one another. That's how the conflict is supposed to be resolved. We see the fight between the two character as the "end of the conflict". In the case of Obi-Wan and Vader though, while both detest one another, both desire to fight one another and defeat each other, neither actually want to kill one another which clashes with the standard action drama where the fight between the good and bad guy is resolved by the death of the bad guy in some way.

It's made quite clear in the show that Obi-Wan sees Vader with a mix pity, regret at is own failure and anger at what he is doing and what he became. He doesn't want to kill him, so much as he wants him to face his mistake and come back; something that Vader did mentioned that he tried to do to Luke later on. That's why Obi-Wan can't bring himself to kill Vader at the end of their last fight (to be fair, he might also have been too exhausted and disturbed by seeing Anakin's face and hearing his voice to do it; Jedi draw their strength from a calm mind after all). Vader is ironically in a similar situation. He doesn't want to kill Obi-Wan so much so as he wants to beat him and make him suffer. His obsession isn't the death of Obi-Wan, it's victory over him. That's why he didn't kill him in episode 3 where he could have done so easily; he wanted to defeat Obi-Wan Kenobi not the shadow of his former master so he just toyed with him like an angry cat. That's also why he didn't kill him in episode 6. He almost certainly knew Obi-Wan wasn't dead under all that rock. He can sense his presence. He just left him there "to die" just like he was left behind to die. Ironically though, Vader is probably unaware of it fully himself and is in self denial; one of the most defining trait of Vader's character is his constant denial of his true feelings. The Emperor underlines it at the end of the series. He knows that Vader still can't kill his master and deep down, might still love him and if they keep crossing each other's paths, it might actually end in Vader turning against him hence why he basically orders him to let it go.

The series end with basically both Obi-Wan and Vader hardening one another against each other. Obi-Wan, as time pass, learns to dissociate more and more Vader from Anakin and lose more and more compassion and guilt towards him while Vader discard his desire for vengeance and victory and starts to regard Obi-Wan as a nuisance more than a nemesis and a friend.

epronovost wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Maybe. But obi wan isn't coward and he has beaten vader twlce. I doubt he would hold back because vader might be dangerous to appoach. Attacking intact vader was even more dangerous.

The "can't get himself kill vader in cold blood once he's on ground" i can live with. Not how i would have prefered it to end but beats "he might still be dangerous".

In my opinion we, the public, have basically been prepped and "indoctrinated" by almost all media to see two combatants in conflict with one another who desire to and fight one another to want to kill one another. That's how the conflict is supposed to be resolved. We see the fight between the two character as the "end of the conflict". In the case of Obi-Wan and Vader though, while both detest one another, both desire to fight one another and defeat each other, neither actually want to kill one another which clashes with the standard action drama where the fight between the good and bad guy is resolved by the death of the bad guy in some way.

I'm going to disagree with all that. Partly because my preferred genre is animation, where 'death of the bad guy' is almost never the desired or actual result, and even in live shows (like older star treks) its actively rejected.
In good shows, fights between characters tend to be resulting from or side effects of the real conflict, but never the end of it.

'Face off fight to the death' is bad action movie/antique westerns kind of thinking.

Okay you've made some great points. Salute to Lord of Hats

Reva is not a mary sue but in the end it seems like no one here liked her writing. No matter the actress who played the role they just wrote her overall arc shoddily. I get the vibe they didnt give it a second look over and assumed it would work.

I will say I loved the last two episodes (5 and 6). I think I just didn't like her scenes in the earlier episodes

 Stevefamine wrote:
Okay you've made some great points. Salute to Lord of Hats

Reva is not a mary sue but in the end it seems like no one here liked her writing. No matter the actress who played the role they just wrote her overall arc shoddily. I get the vibe they didnt give it a second look over and assumed it would work.

I will say I loved the last two episodes (5 and 6). I think I just didn't like her scenes in the earlier episodes

I’d like to argue her being kind of pathetic, yet ambitious is itself a solid character.

We know she was one of very few Younglings to survive Vader’s purge of the temple. Whilst we don’t exactly why or how she was spared? We see the other Inquisitors constantly dumping on her. You’re the least of us, is a specific quote. We then see her ambition outstrip her ability, and lead to her downfall, but also redemption.

That is a character unto itself. Granted one we don’t often see, let alone in Star Wars. But it’s certainly a challenging and dare I say authentic character for us to wrap our heads around.

Its not that rare. The abuse victim that grows to become their abusers and tries to escape the cycle of abuse is an established thing. And can be really well done- Catra from the She-ra reboot, for example

I'm just not sure the writers are aware that is the character they created, and instead opted for REVENGE! as a More Manic Inigo Montoya or bafflingly tried to play straight with 'Shorty-Greasy Spot-Spot' from Black Adder II.

I feel you may be being overly harsh here.

There are definitely shades of Asajj Ventriss, who was a character of amazing potential killed off for the mangst of no-mark “I’m sorry, who?” barely used character Quinlan “so….just another slightly naughty Jedi then” Vos.

Me? Bitter and angry that an interesting character ended up as mangst?

Not me, guv. Honest guv.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I feel you may be being overly harsh here.

Well, the black adder reference is mostly a joke. Her being one note revenge rather than a nuanced character? Not so much.

There are definitely shades of Asajj Ventriss, who was a character of amazing potential killed off for the mangst of no-mark “I’m sorry, who?” barely used character Quinlan “so….just another slightly naughty Jedi then” Vos.

Me? Bitter and angry that an interesting character ended up as mangst?

Not me, guv. Honest guv.

Am I going to regret doing a search for 'mangst' or do you just mean angst? I'm never sure with your over-use of regional slang.

Mangst is something specific. A lazy literary trope where any female character is killed off to provide a male character with motivation.

Hence I’m so pissed off that was Asajj’s fate. That character could’ve been a very interesting lens to consider Grey Force Users, one’s neither Sith nor Jedi, but somewhere in between.

Sadly? Nah. Kill her off. Give this comparative no mark a reason for reasons.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Mangst is something specific. A lazy literary trope where any female character is killed off to provide a male character with motivation.

Aka the refrigerator thing.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Mangst is something specific. A lazy literary trope where any female character is killed off to provide a male character with motivation.

Hence I’m so pissed off that was Asajj’s fate. That character could’ve been a very interesting lens to consider Grey Force Users, one’s neither Sith nor Jedi, but somewhere in between.

Sadly? Nah. Kill her off. Give this comparative no mark a reason for reasons.

I believe the more commonly known term for what you're referring to is "fridging".

Do agree that it was really weird that they got rid of her off-screen in the comics versus having her having a more central role once she got ditched by Dooku. Reva definitely lacks both her backstory and development, and I'd find any attempts for them to push her to be a neutral "Grey Jedi" equivalent pretty forced unless they took a few seasons to develop that which is highly unlikely.

I ended up liking Reva in the end, though its pretty clear her arc is feature film length. Overall, I ended up liking the character, but it felt like the pacing of her story wasn't very smooth to accommodate the episodic structure.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Could be compassion. Could be Jedi don’t murder. Jedi aren’t there to kill.

Hence the part of the genius of Palpatine’s plan was to set them against Droid armies for the most part.

Maybe but surely killing him there and then saves a lot of the remaining Jedi and Force Sensitives in hiding (and mundanes helping them), as its only him and Ahsoka that would stand any kind of non fatal interaction with Vader as he's the end game if the Inquisitors are bested by nearly trained Jedi like Kanan or the like, it would most likely break Obi but take half the properly trained Force users off the baddies side of the board, the Inquisitors appear to be trained to the bear minimum like a lot of the Empires ideas (although thinking more and more Palp is like some crazed chaos god or the factions from 1984, he has no intention of "winning" just creating constant misery and big brain I told you so moments)

Palpatine would have found a new apprentice, and the cycle would begin again. Hell, he could even put the apprentice in the same suit and keep calling him Vader. The new apprentice might not be as powerful but Palpatine already had two others so a fourth isn't out of the question. And IIRC, the Inquisitors are taught enough to be competent Dark Side users, not to the level of the likes of Maul and Dooku or even someone like Ventriss or Savage. But they can always be trained more and with a group already there, the Emperor could pit them against each other to find his new apprentice ensuring only the strongest came out alive.

One of the more compelling reasons I've seen for his decision to sacrifice himself instead of fighting in ANH is that because of his connection to Anakin, he can't kill Vader without succumbing to dark side influences.

Retrospectively we can also include knowledge of what he'll be able to do once he becomes a force ghost as well.

If he kills Vader out of any sort of rage or fear, he betrays the Jedi principles, and that makes an already complicated emotional situation even messier.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Could be compassion. Could be Jedi don’t murder. Jedi aren’t there to kill.

There are piles of dismembered body parts from dead people from various movies, books, shows and games that make me go... what?
Luke went through Jabba's flunkies like a Cuisinart. Blowing up the death star would be an utterly deplorable dark side act of mass murder.

Hence the part of the genius of Palpatine’s plan was to set them against Droid armies for the most part.

No... that's dumb. If your initial premise were actually true, trying to corrupt them/destroy them by forcing them to kill would be a _much_ better plan.

 insaniak wrote:
Luke never sees Reva's lightsaber. When she enters the room in the farm, he's already halfway out the roof hatch and never looks back, and once she's chasing him in the desert it's stowed, and he's unconscious for the last bit. She's just a robed stranger in the dark who he's been told prior is a Tusken.

Watched it again and you might be right, based on the timing I feel like Luke should have seen her with the lightsaber active coming through the door but on screen you never see him looking back.

As for Owen... The one time Obi-Wan's protection but have been useful, he wasn't there. So he's likely not thinking it's any great loss.

He wasn't there, but Owen had just told him to GTFO and stay away from Luke. I guess you can argue that Owen being a stubborn ass is part of his character but it still seems like a pretty poor decision.


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 LordofHats wrote:
There's zero reason for Obi-Wan to have walked off except that he can't kill Vader because Vader is alive later and the plot doesn't bother at all to explain why he walked off. He does it for no reason after all but dealing the finishing blow.

The plot doesn't need to explicitly explain it, it's all right there in his visible emotions. He goes into the fight intending to kill Vader, he wins the fight, and when Vader is lying defeated on the ground he starts to make the killing blow but can't bring himself to do it. I'm not sure why you think "damn, killing my old best friend while he's sitting there looking so pitiful is harder than I thought" is a plot hole you can't accept?

Nope, but they didn't give us that. We got 'bye' and he walks off.

Maybe you're missing it because it's a "show, don't tell" thing but it was blindingly obvious what was happening. Look at Obi Wan's expression, voice, etc. It's all right there even if Obi Wan doesn't say the words "killing you is too hard".

And I'm sure he intended to finish it.

It would have been easy enough to just make the fight end in a draw that forced Obi to retreat and Vader to do some "I must become the master' bit, but no.

But, again, a draw doesn't fit with ANH. Vader's words are clear: when they last met Vader was the learner, now he is the master. He's very directly saying that he has learned from his defeat and will beat Obi Wan this time. Forcing his old master to retreat would have already proved that Vader is stronger and he'd be saying something more like "dude, I beat you once already, WTF are you thinking coming back here to die".

They might think that, but they'd also think she was with some rebels not that long ago and might want to find some revels and that Leia might have information on where they last were.

She's a ten year old kid. We as the audience know that she's important and becomes a main character later but from an in-universe point of view she's just an annoying kid and any information she might have is likely to be undermined by the fact that annoying kids don't fully understand the world. And once she's gone the rebels are going to be doing their best to cover their tracks, very quickly making any fragments of information Leia might still remember obsolete. That hardly seems worth angering the senate, a senate that even after another decade of the Emperor consolidating his power was still enough of a concern that Tarkin's subordinates were afraid of what the senate might do if they found out about the attack on Leia's thinly-veiled spy mission.

I've managed to finish watching it all the way through. and over all I enjoyed this series. Reva seemed poorly written but I did enjoy her time with Princess Laia in interrogation. I think that was probably the strongest or at least most enjoyable action in the series for Reva.

I didn't feel this show was very good or bad or special until Vader arrived and the spectacle was worth it. I even enjoyed the last big fight in Ep 6. I love it when force users use the force. And the strength of both Vader and Obiwan was nice to see.

I had suspected the larger plan was to keep Reva around as a big bad to cross over with the Mandlorian and have a long run with Grogu but they did something different and that fine, maybe even better. Now that she's in the universe and established I hope they continue to use her character and develop her more.
Was it the best star wars ever, no. Was it good, sure. Was there some bad writing and did it more or less feel like a string of video cut scenes? Mostly, more or less, sometimes.

Just my thoughts on it.

If we get a Obi Wan season 2, they are going to have to check all the boxes all over again to put everyone back into the same places so that A New Hope can happen again. It's going to be even worse.

Season 2 doesn't specifically need to include Inquisitors or Vader. And he's got more spare time now that he's stepped back from watching over Luke...

I think the question isn't so much whether they should go for a fun random adventure over fate of the galaxy stuff where all the major players show up, but whether they can resist doing the latter.

 Lance845 wrote:
If we get a Obi Wan season 2, they are going to have to check all the boxes all over again to put everyone back into the same places so that A New Hope can happen again. It's going to be even worse.

Yeah, it also makes his whole point of being in hiding and watching over Luke kinda pointless if he just keeps leaving the planet every other week to go on an adventure smacking Imperials around. And if he stays on Tatooine, what, are we just going to see him fight Sand People and gangsters? I already saw enough of that from book of boba, no more vespa scooter gangs please.