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The Siege of Mandalore was a comic until Clone Wars S7 and they were both Disney.
Regardless apparently BB will fit with that novel anyway.

Voss wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
The best thing about Quinlan Vos is watching YouTube try to explain why he's going to be important in each upcoming Star Wars property to try and justify him. And yes, Asajj's death is a complete waste, particularly given how much they've done with Ahsoka.

It's not so bad. She got better, apparently.
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Or got replaced by her neutral twin, who got all the hair.

Honestly, this feels... weird. Random insertion of edgy 'was everything' background character so the show about storm troopers has more lightsabers. Seriously, her bio reads like she was just in every single force cult the writers ever thought up. Jedi, Sith, Nightsisters, etc, plus oh, a bounty hunter as well? This was somebody's Mary Sue and somebody up top rightfully took an axe to her. Now someone was worried about the season 2 ratings of Bad Batch and just shoved her in for a ratings bump (probably for just 1-2 episodes at the mid-season slump)

I suppose if you read a synopsis, the background overload feels real. I never got that impression from watching Clone Wars, though.

Asajj spends the first three or so seasons as a Sith assassin and she is very much defined by it. When she gets dropped by Dooku, she returns to the only home she has left, but pretty much to do a typical Sith thing and go on a quest for revenge. She isn't really comfortable there and never gets the chance to change that when the Nightsisters get wiped out. She's wanted by the Jedi/Republic and Dooku/the Separatists, and has very specific professional skills. At that point she has few options but to work a shady job. I mean, she could take up farming in the Outer Rim, but that doesn't seem in character for her. Even at the start of her bounty hunting career she's into stabbing people and taking revenge when the opportunity arises. That only gets tempered later.

That she's trained as a Jedi isn't even worth mentioning. At the time that's just what happens to a force sensitive who catches the attention of the Jedi.

All of this is to say that as presented in the show, the progression felt perfectly natural to me.

Agreed on the motivation for including her, though.

Asajj is definitely All In The Execution.

Her journey isn’t an especially rapid one. And the changes that take place are rarely those of her own volition. Overall, she’s the victim of the machinations of others, only kept around as long as she’s immediately useful, then discarded out of hand.

And so we see an increasingly tragic tale unfold.

Bad Batch Season 3

After the going-nowhere-doing-nothing tail chasing doldrums of Season 2?

Season 3 is off to a more sure footed start. Certainly the stuff on Taniss has me riveted.

Didn't know it was already here!

Good start indeed.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
After the going-nowhere-doing-nothing tail chasing doldrums of Season 2?

I happened to watch the first two seasons again last month. I was in the mood and blissfully unaware that season three was only a month and a half away, so it wasn't prep or anything. Good timing though, albeit by complete accident.

Season one is better because it is a lot more focused, but season two flows much better when watched in one go instead of the weekly drop. Might not be the most impactful thing to say since I've been reasonably positive about season two to begin with, but it feels less meandering without the time to dwell on each individual episode. It isn't focused, but the overall story development across the season doesn't feel as dragged out.

That said, I expect season three to be more focused again, what with it being the final season. Seems to hold true so far.

I know it's to tie in with the very bad sequels but it also does some cool things linking with some interesting ideas from Legends, even though that stuff was never part of my SW circle growing up.

So far Bad Batch S3 is solid. Let's hope they can keep it going and finish strong.

Saw the first two episodes and overall it's a big improvement. Hopefuly it keeps its focus to the end.

Bad Batch S3E4 is up, and I enjoyed it overall. It advanced the plot, at least, unlike all the filler episodes from the first couple of seasons.

I’d agree.

Omega’s voice I think is doomed to always annoy me, but this moved at a decent pace and brought the rest of the show along for the road, which is definitely pleasing.

I’m beginning to wonder if we can simply ignore S2 entirely? Outside of a couple of episodes, there’s not a lot to see.

Certainly it lacked real impact moments like the truly sublime destruction of Kamino, which was an absolutely beautifully executed scene.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

I’m beginning to wonder if we can simply ignore S2 entirely? Outside of a couple of episodes, there’s not a lot to see.

I felt like the recap basically covered the entire thing well. I'd still recommend seeing the two Crosshair episodes and.... yeah, that's about it.

 LunarSol wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

I’m beginning to wonder if we can simply ignore S2 entirely? Outside of a couple of episodes, there’s not a lot to see.

I felt like the recap basically covered the entire thing well. I'd still recommend seeing the two Crosshair episodes and.... yeah, that's about it.

That feels a bit limiting to me. I'd at least consider the Coruscant episodes and the finale. Maybe even the one with the Zillo beast There's some good state of the Empire stuff in there, and in the case of the latter more stuff on the cloning program that fits with the main plot.

The standalone episodes with more or less personal impact on the main characters don't bother me and I'd still watch them, but if you want to skip anything in pursuit of a streamlined experience, thematically they are least relevant to the cloning program plot.

Bad Batch S3 E5

 LunarSol wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

I’m beginning to wonder if we can simply ignore S2 entirely? Outside of a couple of episodes, there’s not a lot to see.

I felt like the recap basically covered the entire thing well. I'd still recommend seeing the two Crosshair episodes and.... yeah, that's about it.

The first 2-3 and last 2-3, plus the Crosshair episodes, of S2 are the only episodes worth watching. Everything else is naked padding.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Bad Batch S3 E5

Spoiler:

Split opinion on this one.

It does cover necessary ground, the Batch learning to trust Crosshair, and also work around the loss of Tech.

But it feels like it could’ve been done in a more interesting way, because this was a bit hollow. Not to mention the “oh we’ll get that from this abandoned base I know, HALP BIG MONSTER” is a trope I’m a bit tired of. And no, Wrecker commenting on that only compounds the issue.

Hopefully we’ll get something more involving next week, because this was barely half a tea cake.

I feel positive about the latest episode because the narrative structure in this season has returned to the way the first season handled things. The overarching season plot exists in each episode and has relevance regardless of any side quest of the week material that serves as backdrop.

That's the way to go in my opinion.

That’s fair.

I think it’s just the sudden big monster bit I’m more tired of.

Watching Star Wars Rebels from the beginning again.

Whilst probably still the weakest of its seasons, Season One is better than I recall. Perhaps a bit heavy on the comedy side, but there is plenty of world building and character development in it.

Certainly it’s much less filler than Bad Batch S2.

Rebels is much better in hindsight because you know its going somewhere. A lot of why season 1 was rough as it was airing is just that there's no way to know that its ever going to be more than some troublemakers on a sandbox planet getting away from the bumbling officer who shakes his fist and vows to get them next week. Shoehorned cameos do little to shake this vibe. It's really not until Grand Inquisitor is introduced that the show starts to tip its hand and begins to become the Clone Wars follow up that removes the inconsequential facade.

I think the other difference is that the Rebel's target audience was kids.
Not that BB or CW weren't cos y'know toys and Lego but the tone is much more similar to the early seasons of CW and I think that's what jarred people the most.
Going from what were objectively dark and serious stories towards the end of CW to "Haha look at the funny officer who can't catch a kid" in Rebels, is tonal whiplash.
Then once the initial stages are out of the way, we get the build-up of "Oh word the Empire is kind of annoyed" to "Oh hell they just killed the comedy relief Imperials".

Fair comments, and I find myself agreeing, especially that foreknowledge of what’s to come adds much needed context. And definitely an excellent observation that picking up from the best bits of Clone Wars wouldn’t have helped a fledgling show in its “getting to know you” period,

Just finished Season 2. And it’s remarkable just how quickly it ramps up.

There’s also nice touches like changes to character design. Wounds become scars, hair styles change. Relatively minor as such things go, but they help to show passage of time and even character growth.


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Ooh! Bad Batch treating us to a science fiction double feature today!

E6 was really cool. Lots going on, without particularly raising or changing the stakes. Also a very sweet ship debut. Love a new starship, me.

E7 is a direct continuation. And also pretty good. One scene felt a bit forced, but overall it’s fun.

Pair of great episodes. I wish this side plot featured more prominently rather than just being a once per season deal. Real treat to see Wolfe.

Good episodes and nice of them get them on the same day. I do enjoy a look at the wider situation.

Neatly completed my Rebels re-watch.

Given the Mortis Gods and their link to the World Between Worlds, I think I know how Ahsoka and Sabine are going to return in Ahsoka.

Edited to correct meself.

Seems we can expect a trailer or teaser trailer for The Acolyte. Which is releasing 4 June

I’m hype!




Eff knows what happened to Skellington Crew though.

Looks good. And without an hang ups of needing to be between the OT and the ST it should have room to breathe and just be.

Looks... great actually. Here's hoping it can provide a strong story in a freer setting.

This might be our first Star Wars media not linked to the exploits of the Skywalkers?

We’ve had bits one step removed (Mando, Ahsoka, Rebels). But I think this is the first about as entirely removed as you can get whilst still including the Jedi Order?