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I placed an order with Shapeways for a couple of 28mm figures and my estimated shipping date is Dec. 20th if I didn't want to pay double extra fees for expedited production and shipping.

Pity, I ordered in the first hour the sale was live and have my entire order in hand today

Congrats! What did you order?

All wrath of kings. I ordered all the stuff that wasn't on sale last year and that came out since. Plus filled in all the gaps in my goritsi range (everything not in the original kickstarter). Also grabbed an extra set of warsmiths since I thought one day I might use them as all my infantry. About $100 in WoK sets all told

I now have the entire range for anything not Hadross and multiples of the units I like the look of/like playing with.

 Hulksmash wrote:
All wrath of kings. I ordered all the stuff that wasn't on sale last year and that came out since. Plus filled in all the gaps in my goritsi range (everything not in the original kickstarter). Also grabbed an extra set of warsmiths since I thought one day I might use them as all my infantry. About $100 in WoK sets all told

I now have the entire range for anything not Hadross and multiples of the units I like the look of/like playing with.

From Shapeways? I didn't know they stocked WoK 3d models. Are we talking about the same thing?

You're not - he got his wires crossed.

He's talking about his CMON order.

No idea what - if anything - he ordered from Shapeways.

Would love to know what you all had for dinner last night though!

 Mysterio wrote:


Would love to know what you all had for dinner last night though!

Sadly nothing made by CMON or from Shapeways, nor was it part of a Black Friday sale.

I'm still waiting for SOMETHING. Everything I ordered is somewhere in transit. I want it NOW... even though I have piles and piles of stuff to work on....

Did CMON at least give you guys confirmation things had shipped? I can't remember if they did in the past.

Yep a tracking email and an order complete email

MM must be seriously jammed up as well. I placed an order on the 24th and it just moved yesterday from order received to the virtual order queue. They must be making a killing on the prioritize shipping checkbox.

MM can't handle their business anymore, they are good at taking preorders but suck at shipping them out.

Well that's often down to companies not delivering on anything like the original time frame (just like KS),

or MM taking unlimited preorders and finding that no, the distributor won't hand over the entire product allocation to them as they've got a bunch of other businesses to service

angel of death 007 wrote:
MM can't handle their business anymore, they are good at taking preorders but suck at shipping them out.

A big part of their current problem that I see (I live 2 miles from their warehouse, and used to stop there 2-3times a week) is them opening a separate brick and mortar store. At the old location they had all their dings and dents out front for people to walk in and buy and even place online orders and get them pulled then and there. Now with the store 7 miles from the warehouse you have to order by midnight for delivery the next mon-Friday business day. It really hurts the quick local pick up, which they were always busy with.

With the new store they have to divert a lot of manpower that the old set up didn’t need. Old store had one person running the register and everyone else working orders. The new set up they have a rotation of 5-6 full timers running a shop, people to transport orders to the facility. Lost revenue while waiting for restocks which once again is Mon-Friday. With two locations they can’t support each other as easily as the old model. I’m sure it will work out, but it isn’t their first year of the Black Friday with both locations.

I ordered Black Friday items from MM just after midnight EST on 11/21 and received them last week, Thursday I think. I was happy that the sale prices were already loaded even though their website said they wouldn't begin until after midnight central time.

My order was small, though, just 6 adventure packs for Lord of the Rings LCG (was thrilled to get them on sale).

I placed an order with MM and have heard nothing, not a squeak. Had deliveries from the other three US based shops I placed orders with but MM still isn't even processing.

Got my notification(s) from MM. Either they split my order into 3 or they are sending me your stuff.

Paypal Credit is having a $20 off of $50 purchase at ebay for NA people. There's a unique code you can put into the coupon area at checkout after selecting Paypal Credit.

Pretty good deal if you stick close to the $50.

What even is Paypal Credit?

 ph34r wrote:
What even is Paypal Credit?

PayPal's internal "credit" program which isn't really a credit line. They don't pull credit reports but they also don't report to credit bureaus. So, you can get it easily, but the interest (at 20% APR, min $2) and charges can pile up quickly and you get no benefit to your credit score.

Most research I've done has naturally uncovered a large number of people dissatisfied with it (since complaints are more common than praise for anything), but it does seem like a fairly sketchy deal overall. Kind of like the "free trial" that's planning on you forgetting to cancel.

BigDaddio wrote:
I ordered Black Friday items from MM just after midnight EST on 11/21 and received them last week, Thursday I think. I was happy that the sale prices were already loaded even though their website said they wouldn't begin until after midnight central time.

My order was small, though, just 6 adventure packs for Lord of the Rings LCG (was thrilled to get them on sale).

My black friday order finally shows shipped. Problem is the other 4 preorders I did previously all have the items as in but not one preorder has moved at all. I emailed them they broke my preorders down so they could "ship them" and now they are just fragmented orders sitting in the matrix. Can't even check on them anymore. Most of my preorders (fallout, A song of ice and fire, and Star Wars legion were preordered 3 months to 6 months inadvance. Makes me not really feel like preordering when my local LGS i can walk to and pick them up off the shelf.

It has put a very bad path for future preorders. Much like Kickstarter did with Relic Knights I think I am done with preorders as this years experiences have ruined both preorders and kickstarter for me. Wonder what they would do if i requested a refund on the 5 orders I have out... almost a grand? It is kind of tempting enough to try.

angel of death 007 wrote:
Most of my preorders (fallout, A song of ice and fire, and Star Wars legion were preordered 3 months to 6 months inadvance. Makes me not really feel like preordering when my local LGS i can walk to and pick them up off the shelf.

It has put a very bad path for future preorders. Much like Kickstarter did with Relic Knights I think I am done with preorders as this years experiences have ruined both preorders and kickstarter for me. Wonder what they would do if i requested a refund on the 5 orders I have out... almost a grand? It is kind of tempting enough to try.

You should do that if you're stuck in limbo with them while the same product sits on shelves. They'll probably end up suddenly finding the time to ship you what you paid for. If they don't refund you despite having it available in the past, then you're still in the chargeback period assuming you paid with a credit card. You're not powerless and dealing with kickstarter this time so stand up for your consumer rights.

Game Surplus still has its sale. $120 for free shipping.

$80 for Song of Ice and Fire. : https://www.gamesurplus.com/shop/a-song-of-ice-fire-tabletop-miniatures-game-stark-vs-lannister-starter-set/
$30 for LOAD. : https://www.gamesurplus.com/shop/load-league-of-ancient-defenders/

$40 for Thunderstone Quest : https://www.gamesurplus.com/shop/thunderstone-quest/
$35 for Charterstone : https://www.gamesurplus.com/shop/charterstone/
$12 for Jungle Speed : https://www.gamesurplus.com/shop/jungle-speed/
$10 for Codename: Pictures : https://www.gamesurplus.com/shop/codenames-pictures/

Clearance : https://www.gamesurplus.com/product-category/holidayclearancesale/

It just occurred to me today that my CMON Black Friday order still hasn't shipped. Anyone else in the same boat? This was the first time I ordered directly from them, so just wondering if this is par for the course.

Not on CMON but I'm still waiting for my Shapeways order to be produced. In their defense, they did actually estimate it would take this long.

Triple9 wrote:
It just occurred to me today that my CMON Black Friday order still hasn't shipped. Anyone else in the same boat? This was the first time I ordered directly from them, so just wondering if this is par for the course.

Yes. My CMON order just shipped yesterday. Tracking shows it should arrive tomorrow. I didn’t get any notice, I had to log in to my account to see that.

I just got my CMON order yesterday, did anyone who ordered from Knight models get anything or shipping notifications just wondering as i haven’t heard anything yet?

My CMON order is supposed to arrive this afternoon.

Still irritated I didn't get as many Dark Age kits as I wanted. What's even more frustrating is the stuff I wanted isn't even showing up on eBay.

I guess getting Xenoshyft for about 10 bucks eases the frustration, along with filling in the last few gaps in my Wrath of Kings collection.

Well my CMON haul arrived safely and complete today about 2 months faster than last time (and with a lot better coms)… I placed the order within a few hours of the BF sale going live so they clearly started from the right end of the order pile this time unlike last year

that's me pretty much completed my Wrath of Kings collection (or at least anything I like to any degree) so I can play (and provide any opponents a selection of forces too), pretty much essential as i'm certain the game is dead even if CMON never makes the official announcement plus a few duplicates for conversion (more flying pig men that I don't need to worry about cutting up, why yes I think I will)

A selection of The Others: Seven Sins boxes to be robbed for body horror minis (plus dice for the dice jar I hadn't realised were in there)…. the game didn't grab me but the minis are decent


and most useful a huge number of plastic SF doors, gun turrets and other bits in the sedition wars terrain

My one regret is not going nuts on Sedition Wars terrain.

My CMON order arrived to Spain last week.

Still waiting on CMON order as well, no tracking notice or anything. I ordered early, too. Hope I still get the Gotha Knights I ordered.

And those wondering about Knight Models, well all I can say is good luck with that. They make CMON look fast and organized.