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I feel like if anything they would announce him on a saturday w/ preorders for pickup in 2 weeks. Hopefully this saturday but who knows. Id imagine they want to get the PA out before Adepticon and Ghaz probably coming out before or the same time as the PA

Announcements for next preorders come sunday around 18gmt.

My guess is pa6 this week for next week preorder, then something for aos and then 2 weeks for rest of sisters(i presume they don't dump all 8 kits to 1 week). That covers march releases

I've heard rumblings there's a video dropping this weekend on WHC so it's probably something related to PA6/Ghaz. Sunday is usually when they preview what goes on preorder the next saturday so I'd assume then. But I guess "weekend" might even mean tonight

Hmmm I always thought it was saturdays, good to know

No most def been sunday. You can trust me on this. Been smashing f5 around 18gmt sunday past weeks hoping news on rest of sisters(minus last week after gw told sisters come in march making last sunday impossible for sister news unless gw changes release pattern ).

Saturday is when preorders comes live. Sunday is when next week's preorders come.

So I'm still fairly new and don't own the ork codex, I do own the 8th edition rulebook but I've mainly learned how to build because of Battlescribe. I just realized that there are units with multiple copies of the same weapon, (warbikes have 2 dakkaguns?!?) and that means that they shoot however many weapons they have....I feel like my head just exploded. This is both an amazing discovery, and a little frustrating that I missed this in my new army escalation games I've play so far.

I kept trying to figure how how everyone else was rolling soooo many dice and I was rolling a fraction. Which it turns out, I literally was. I wish battlescribe actually listed in the stat lines how many they are equipped with.

 Haasbioroid wrote:
So I'm still fairly new and don't own the ork codex, I do own the 8th edition rulebook but I've mainly learned how to build because of Battlescribe. I just realized that there are units with multiple copies of the same weapon, (warbikes have 2 dakkaguns?!?) and that means that they shoot however many weapons they have....I feel like my head just exploded. This is both an amazing discovery, and a little frustrating that I missed this in my new army escalation games I've play so far.

I kept trying to figure how how everyone else was rolling soooo many dice and I was rolling a fraction. Which it turns out, I literally was. I wish battlescribe actually listed in the stat lines how many they are equipped with.

I mean, while Battlescribe is a useful resource (ESPECIALLY for points! Your Codex is crap for that) it's NOT a rules replacer.

Really?? I had always heard that battlescribe messes up the points sometimes. Surprising to hear that the codex is less reliable in that area.

The Codex is less reliable because GW puts out Chapter Approved, which updates point-costs, on a yearly schedule.

that and the way the codex and CA organizes points is infuriating.
You are flipping pages constantly to get the points. They really want you to use powerlevels, yet they never update them to reflect various balance chances (admech the worst offender of this, a 2k admech list is around 130pl but is 98pl for orks lol)

I cannot link it but there is russian a Wikipedia for 40k with basically everything you need out there.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
that and the way the codex and CA organizes points is infuriating.
You are flipping pages constantly to get the points. They really want you to use powerlevels, yet they never update them to reflect various balance chances (admech the worst offender of this, a 2k admech list is around 130pl but is 98pl for orks lol)

Wow!

But ya, I played against a guy in my escalation game and he SM and Astra Militarum codeces and had them all posted up and was just flipping back and forth for each unit. I was happy to have my print out from battlescribe.


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 Emicrania wrote:
I cannot link it but there is russian a Wikipedia for 40k with basically everything you need out there.

ya, I have it on my phone but I can't access it on my work computer.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
that and the way the codex and CA organizes points is infuriating.
You are flipping pages constantly to get the points. They really want you to use powerlevels, yet they never update them to reflect various balance chances (admech the worst offender of this, a 2k admech list is around 130pl but is 98pl for orks lol)

Ummm you no longer look at codex for points. CA19 is only source for points now. CA19 has FULL list of points. Not only just changes.

Forget the codex points. CA19 has all the changed AND non hanged poiints.

(sorry for typos. I'm seriously drunk. But point is after chapter apprioved 19 there is no longer any need to refer to codex points. It is all in chapter apprived. This is at last how it should have been from get go with chapter approved. It took ages for GW to figure out but with this there's actually good reason to have points at the back rather than at the datasheets! So it took it's sweet time but GW finally figured out how to do point updates right in print format.)

I NEED that Datasheet !!!
If they don't release anything today, than is Adepticon ...

Nah, it's almost guaranteed to be tomorrow

Probably a moot point to be mulling over questionable FW units with an index update somewhere on the horizon, but:

Meka-Dreads? Semi-viable? The static BS 4+, Ramshackle Monster + KFF, and Big Zappa is what draws me in. I'd be all over it if you could ditch the Rippa Claw for a second ranged weapon like another Big Zappa or even a Rattler Kannon. They're a bit cheaper than a Morkanaut for a couple less wounds, though the drop from T8 to T7 is bad it might shake out ok with Ramshackle Monster.

Though I am probably overrating the Big Zappa. You compare it to an SAG and it's worse in most respects.

PiñaColada wrote:
Nah, it's almost guaranteed to be tomorrow

G(M)ork what a torture!!

Madjob wrote:
Probably a moot point to be mulling over questionable FW units with an index update somewhere on the horizon, but:

Meka-Dreads? Semi-viable? The static BS 4+, Ramshackle Monster + KFF, and Big Zappa is what draws me in. I'd be all over it if you could ditch the Rippa Claw for a second ranged weapon like another Big Zappa or even a Rattler Kannon. They're a bit cheaper than a Morkanaut for a couple less wounds, though the drop from T8 to T7 is bad it might shake out ok with Ramshackle Monster.

Though I am probably overrating the Big Zappa. You compare it to an SAG and it's worse in most respects.

Mork is just magnitudes better for like 30 more points. Do it for fun, not for competitive play.

Meka-Dreadz are decent, but, as mentioned, they ain't optimal. I've taken one instead of a Mork, when I've been low on points.

Mekas are...usable but unless you own one and for some reason not a naut (either version) you really have no reason to run it.
Even if its a fair bit cheaper, its not proportionally weaker. Its somewhere around half (slightly better than half really) of the naut variants for not much less in points.

The T7 is the main problem, the other issues are minor and explained by the cost difference. But that T7 hurts. If it was like 30-40pts cheaper or T8 it would be pretty much spot on imo

It would be nice if they had a smash attack too. Morks and gorks can get hordes of attacks in CC.


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Ultimately though, like most Ork FW stuff, it’s just over costed and/or trash tier, or just okay.

I think I’d happily take the Supa Skorcha big trakk or a Chinork and not much else. Garg Squig is close though. It needs to be able to move and shoot heavy weapons without penalty and it actually might be good.

No preorder for PA this week, hopefully it will be previews this week and preorder and third party review videos next sunday.

I'd bet almost anything we'll get the preview in 7 hours. The only small hesitation is if it's the last of the SoB instead I suppose..

Seraphons are also immident release. Battleome has been out of sale completely for few weeks and we know new one plus terrain is coming(terrain has already been shown).

But yeah good odds PA6 today.

I’m expecting sisters stuff preorder next sat and ghaz and pa6 preorder the week after. Mostly because I think the older rumour of a spacewolf and ork box set is coming...

I doubt that. First 8 sister kits took 2 weeks. I expect remaining 8 to take 2 weeks as well. Unless they do all in one or like sister - pa - sister -seraphon(or swap last 2). We know all 8 sister kits comes to preorder 28.3 by latest as well so no release some and then 2 month wait again.

But 2.5 hours and mystery shall be revealed

(would personally prefer all sisters now as if not i don't get some stuff for tournament. But not too sad of orks coming either)

Off topic - we’re still allowed to tellyporta DS turn 1 right? I remember GW posting an infographic or something saying we could

No-you can Da Jump T1, But not true deepstrike.

 Billagio wrote:
Off topic - we’re still allowed to tellyporta DS turn 1 right? I remember GW posting an infographic or something saying we could

No the graphic was pre-september faq for stuff like da jump and grey knight spell.

In nutshell if after deployment unit is either on board or in transport or is space marine drop pod you can move it around with spells etc. Otherwise it's in reserve and can't be brought in turn 1.

Da jump is what you CAN use in T1.

Thanks lads