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New article is out. No Ghaz, no SoB. Colour me surprised and just hella disappointed

No PA6 preorder announcement today :(

Wasn't expecting lizards come today as I figured 3 out of 4 weeks would be 40k(PA and sisters) and thought they wouldn't want 3 weeks in a row.

So I'm betting on PA6 next week followed by 2 weeks of sisters.

Sorry orks. Ghaz keeps you waiting for a while :-/

Called it. They will release it at Adepticon.

Fuckinhg gak

Played games 3 and 4 for my Campaign today.

Game 3 was against Chaos Marines, turn 1 he advanced into my gunline, on my turn I iced his Warlord with my Warlord, killed his cultists with my Scrapjets. Turn 2 he deep struck terminators and heavily damaged both scrapjets but failed to kill either one, on my turn I ran my scrapjets away and shot his terminators to death with my mek gunz and warlord. After this he conceded.

game 4 was against Tyranids, haven't played them much at all. he won the roll off and moved his entire army just out of charge range, on my turn I killed his Zoanthrope, carnifex, a biovore and almost his entire unit of maxed out Genestealers. Turn 2 he deep struck a lictor, his Hive Tyrant and a unit of those little nibbler guys. He moved his genstealer and broodlord into CC range of my Scrapjets, i had luckily positioned my grots very well and his Tyrant and lictor were denied targets of opportunity and had to try to charge the scrapjet as well. In overwatch my scrapjet killed the lictor, then it killed the broodlord then it killed the genestealer, at this point he conceded. I got some seriously lucky rolls with my Scrapjet, had he made it into combat he would have been able to pull my other 2 scrapjets into CC along with a unit of Grotz and at the end very likely my Weirdboy. Game ended with him still having 2 full units of gaunts on the table and his warlord but it was basically over as his warlord was stuck out in the open and the closest unit to my own warlord (SSAG Big Mek) and 2 of my 5 mek gunz.

Big Mek Grot Shokka is making a name for himself in the segmentum.

SemperMortis wrote:
Played games 3 and 4 for my Campaign today.

Game 3 was against Chaos Marines, turn 1 he advanced into my gunline, on my turn I iced his Warlord with my Warlord, killed his cultists with my Scrapjets. Turn 2 he deep struck terminators and heavily damaged both scrapjets but failed to kill either one, on my turn I ran my scrapjets away and shot his terminators to death with my mek gunz and warlord. After this he conceded.

game 4 was against Tyranids, haven't played them much at all. he won the roll off and moved his entire army just out of charge range, on my turn I killed his Zoanthrope, carnifex, a biovore and almost his entire unit of maxed out Genestealers. Turn 2 he deep struck a lictor, his Hive Tyrant and a unit of those little nibbler guys. He moved his genstealer and broodlord into CC range of my Scrapjets, i had luckily positioned my grots very well and his Tyrant and lictor were denied targets of opportunity and had to try to charge the scrapjet as well. In overwatch my scrapjet killed the lictor, then it killed the broodlord then it killed the genestealer, at this point he conceded. I got some seriously lucky rolls with my Scrapjet, had he made it into combat he would have been able to pull my other 2 scrapjets into CC along with a unit of Grotz and at the end very likely my Weirdboy. Game ended with him still having 2 full units of gaunts on the table and his warlord but it was basically over as his warlord was stuck out in the open and the closest unit to my own warlord (SSAG Big Mek) and 2 of my 5 mek gunz.

Big Mek Grot Shokka is making a name for himself in the segmentum.

Did he know the lictor can use the strat to deny overwatch ? Perhaps he underestimated the OW potentil of a scrapjet (it definately can kill a broodlordor a lictor with just a little bit of luck)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/02/a-leg-up/

It does seem like we will have to wait all month long and that the PA will be shown during Adepticon

Is it possible? Sure. I've obviously been wrong about this release but the whole spanner and day counter thing is not related to Ghaz, I don't see how it could be.

The day counter does not tie into real days, this time around it would actually fall on a Saturday which makes it seem a bit more believable but the spanner comic last week (the 24th of Feb) said it was 29 days till the waaagh. So seven days in the real world passed but only 3 in the comic..

The comic is about the little deff skulls trying to fix his gargant for the waaagh.
The author is not directly employed by GW and has multiple other comics running. I'd be highly surprised if he knows anything about their release cycles at all.

Yep. Combined with days not matching not indication of anything.

Possible? Yes. I stick with my prediction that last 2 weeks are sisters which means pa is next

You are both right AND wrong:

Yes? Point being? We saw that cartoon already. Week earlier it was 29 days to waagh.

That cartoon isn't even trying to be synced with irl. Next monday it could be 6 days to waagh.

It's cartoon drawn by non gw artist. He isn't privy to release schedules

Stop me if this has come up already and I missed it, but it occurred to me that they keep saying that Ghazghkull has been spotted in multiple places across the galaxy at once and nobody can figure out how he's doing it except by teleporting using the great rift. I wish to present an alternative hypothesis: there is more than one Ghazghkull.

Specifically, Ghazghkull is the "Great Beast" but there are other warbosses who have achieved Beast status, the same as during the War of the Beast. I predict the kit will be like a Greater Daemon kit that makes either a generic Beast warboss or a special character variant, namely Ghazghkull. That could mean getting a ghazghkull level character that can be given other clan traits, relics, etc.

I just got an Artel W Iron Boss so that would make me happy.

The legends MA boss is just weak sauce.

Ya, I have the Iron Boss too. My only hope is that the new Ghaz is bigger than the Iron Boss. Currently he towers over current Ghaz.

 Haasbioroid wrote:
Ya, I have the Iron Boss too. My only hope is that the new Ghaz is bigger than the Iron Boss. Currently he towers over current Ghaz.

I picked up some kommandos too.

I gotta say, this sculptor is incredible. It's easily the best resin model I've built / worked with.

But yeah, I'm hoping something cool comes out of PA with a newer, big boss sort of MA mini. I'd love to field this guy a generic big boss (but ya know, he doesn't totally suck ass like the legends version), then Ghazzy when it's actually ghazzy.

 office_waaagh wrote:
Stop me if this has come up already and I missed it, but it occurred to me that they keep saying that Ghazghkull has been spotted in multiple places across the galaxy at once and nobody can figure out how he's doing it except by teleporting using the great rift. I wish to present an alternative hypothesis: there is more than one Ghazghkull.

Specifically, Ghazghkull is the "Great Beast" but there are other warbosses who have achieved Beast status, the same as during the War of the Beast. I predict the kit will be like a Greater Daemon kit that makes either a generic Beast warboss or a special character variant, namely Ghazghkull. That could mean getting a ghazghkull level character that can be given other clan traits, relics, etc.

Alternatively orks get a big Mek with KFF kit with an alternative named orkimedes version and some gakky lore about orkimedes using the rift to get ghaz all over.

To be fair I expect an ork big Mek kit more then GW retconning the legends entry they did recently.
It’s also pretty much given the warlord on bike will be in the new forgeworld book as well.
It seems the legends choices were done with future rules releases in mind so I don’t expect warlord in mega armour to be an option.
But an orkimedes or mogrok (which was in the lore today) option would be interesting named addition!

I thought Gork and Mork were basically teleporting him around ever since he left Armageddon?

Ghaz Size SAG. Just blasting him around the galaxy.

 Haasbioroid wrote:
Ghaz Size SAG. Just blasting him around the galaxy.

You mean the Orks most formidable weapon? The GAG?

The latest codex suggests that Gork and Mork are teleporting Ghaz' around not just space but also time. That is how he can appear in multiple places at once. He has a scrap, wins, then goes to another war zone a week earlier. The alternative theory; that there are other warbosses that have gone beast mode, is also a good one. Would be great to get generic 'Beast Bosses'.

that would be hilarious if we got "Beast Boss" as a replacement for the megaboss.
Better than a regular boss in more ways than just a 2+ armor. It would also be kinda smart for GW to do that because all they'd have to do is swap heads on the upcoming Ghaz model, maybe make his gun arm have options, and bam theyre gonna sell 2-3 of them instead of just 1.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
that would be hilarious if we got "Beast Boss" as a replacement for the megaboss.
Better than a regular boss in more ways than just a 2+ armor. It would also be kinda smart for GW to do that because all they'd have to do is swap heads on the upcoming Ghaz model, maybe make his gun arm have options, and bam theyre gonna sell 2-3 of them instead of just 1.

That was kinda my thinking as well, a more versatile kit that could sell better, and it seems like they've set it up nicely with the novel series having the "big reveal" be that there's actually more than one Beast. The codex does say that he's getting teleported around the galaxy, but the codex also says that Makari got sat on and his banner became a relic and now he's getting a model, so they're obviously prepared to retcon just about anything if they can come up with a cool model to justify it.

Although an hilarious Ork version of Scotty from Star Trek with a Ghaz-sized shokk attack gun would be possibly the greatest thing to happen to 40k lore since the Deff Skwadron.

They probably wont though.... Ghaz will (99% sure) just make Ghaz. Thats like making Abaddon or Calgar a multipart kit to make other Chapter Masters and Chaos Warlords. Even Shadowsun, her armour was rare? As Shas O'Kais wore it too in Dawn of War Dark Crusade and in the older T'au codexes it was said it wasnt just Shadowsun that wore it, but she isnt multipart.

And also it cheapens Ghaz's new size if all Warbosses are his size too... Yeah maybe have a kit that makes a Megaboss sized Warlord (not Warboss) to represent the bigger Orkz out there, Snagrod, Nazdreg, Uglak, Deffrekka. Those are notably bigger Orkz for their class.

So they "COULD" make Ghaz multipart to make a standard Ork Warlord, but I highly doubt it.

Well that's certainly possible but I feel like it takes away a bit of the gravitas of getting a beast Ghaz if there's suddenly enough of them that are running around that you can create one that isn't even a unique character. I always read the Ghaz appearing at multiple places at once as a part of his ascension, but all of his avatars are still him. A non-unique beast boss HQ option would be someone else entirely.

In regards to the Makari "retcon" it's heavily insinuated by GW in the makari focus article that he's a new grot and Ghaz simply just named this one makari as well..

Sidenote, I'm sure GW will love having multiple versions of Ghaz running around, the flavour of the week SM character get to kill him and it doesn't impede on the story at all!

Edit: Apparently deffrekka is on the same train of thought as myself..

What I would prefer is for us to get a Mekboss (Like Buzzgob), a Painboss, Bikerboss (outside of Zhadsnark from FW), a bigger Warphead (bring back Ol' Zogwart!) and even a Stormboss!

But these things wont happen! But I would like for us to get Warboss Equivalents of the Oddboys but sadly its only Buzzgob who has that privilege :(


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PiñaColada wrote:
Well that's certainly possible but I feel like it takes away a bit of the gravitas of getting a beast Ghaz if there's suddenly enough of them that are running around that you can create one that isn't even a unique character. I always read the Ghaz appearing at multiple places at once as a part of his ascension, but all of his avatars are still him. A non-unique beast boss HQ option would be someone else entirely.

In regards to the Makari "retcon" it's heavily insinuated by GW in the makari focus article that he's a new grot and Ghaz simply just named this one makari as well..

Sidenote, I'm sure GW will love having multiple versions of Ghaz running around, the flavour of the week SM character get to kill him and it doesn't impede on the story at all!

Edit: Apparently deffrekka is on the same train of thought as myself..

great Orkz think alike!

Somewhere I still have a Zodgrod model from 2nd edition, he was a runtherd special character. He made your snotlings better. I'm not making this up.

We sort of do have characters for the specialist mobs, they're just all special characters like Snikrot, Badrukk, Zagstruk, etc. Ol' Zogwort and Wazdakka didn't ever have models I don't think, sadly. Snikrot and Badrukk are pretty decent too, actually.

We still have buzzgrob, snikrot, Maddoc, zagstrukk, zhardsark, Ghazghkull, the only oddboy we are missing is a warp head.

I wouldn’t rule out Morgok from being a dual kit w a big Mek model in the beast rises. But no ghaz is a solo character model.

Old Zogwort was our warphead character but he never had a model so he went the way of the dodo.
i miss squigifying people with him, even if it almost...never...ever...went off lol

 Vineheart01 wrote:
that would be hilarious if we got "Beast Boss" as a replacement for the megaboss.
Better than a regular boss in more ways than just a 2+ armor. It would also be kinda smart for GW to do that because all they'd have to do is swap heads on the upcoming Ghaz model, maybe make his gun arm have options, and bam theyre gonna sell 2-3 of them instead of just 1.

It would also devalue ghaz when bunch of random bosses would be equal in power then

tneva82 wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
that would be hilarious if we got "Beast Boss" as a replacement for the megaboss.
Better than a regular boss in more ways than just a 2+ armor. It would also be kinda smart for GW to do that because all they'd have to do is swap heads on the upcoming Ghaz model, maybe make his gun arm have options, and bam theyre gonna sell 2-3 of them instead of just 1.

It would also devalue ghaz when bunch of random bosses would be equal in power then

Unless he drew them from Octarius since that has some truly massive boys running around and could justify some beast-like Bosses.

If you have other beasts of equal size you have other bosses in equal power to Ghaz. No more Ghaz being exceptional.