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When it was Craftworlds and Drukhari getting the PA treatment, it was a whole week of new rules, model reveals, strats etc. The Orks PA has been total trash. Makari revealed 6 months ago it feels like then nothing. Big effing whoop.

Seriously, if you start this whiny gak again, I'm going to start dreadsocking people. Can't we have a single release without ork player acting like toddlers?

Next week will be the week for rule releases as it was for every other PA.

Also, it's been less than a month since the Makari reveal.

I want to know what Dreadsocking is but yea we can wait until Monday guys. Hopefully the wait will be worth it. Remember we have at least 1 maybe 2 rumour engine pics that look very Orky and aren’t related to Ghaz or Makari. There was also a rumour that we’d get more after PA.

Monday is going to be awesome for me regardless - I find out the sex of my next child as well as what goodies we get for PA

Seems like it’s obvious the real spoilers start on Monday. Two days away, no need to freak out.

Hey, congratulations, Englishman. Got any ideas on what to name the little grot?

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I want to know what Dreadsocking is

Remember the good old days when Dreadnoughts were big, massive lumps of metal? Put one in a sock, hit other guy with it = dreadsocking.

 flandarz wrote:
Hey, congratulations, Englishman. Got any ideas on what to name the little grot?

Might I recommend a middle name of “mag Uruk”?

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I want to know what Dreadsocking is

A "dreadsock" refers to putting a metal deff dread in a sock to use as a weapon
If you lack the proper model, you can also build a kan flail by using three metal killa kanz in a similar fashion

And congratulations on your kid


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No wolves on Fenris wrote:
Might I recommend a middle name of “mag Uruk”?

The she-ork tends to intervene on such shenanigans. My wive vetoed my suggestion for our daughter's middle name, too.
I wonder why... "Hulk" would have been very fitting

 flandarz wrote:
Hey, congratulations, Englishman. Got any ideas on what to name the little grot?

Makari?
Thraka?

We'll have to know the sex first

 Darnok wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I want to know what Dreadsocking is

Remember the good old days when Dreadnoughts were big, massive lumps of metal? Put one in a sock, hit other guy with it = dreadsocking.

Savage. I love it.

Lol I managed to sneak a 40k name on my first child, our son, though it isn't Ork related.

"Look at little Zhadsnark, he/she's so fast and just running around all over the place!" See, it works either way! (On a slightly more serious note, congrats AAE)

Hi all.

I’m playing a tourney that uses ETC rules in the coming weeks. What models or units are best for ETC? I’m used to ICT but don’t really have much time to get games in before the tourney.

All help is greatly appreciated

I assume the ETC tournament is running CA2019 missions?

The main difference IMO is that mobility and the ability to contest backfield objectives is worth much more in EW/Maelstrom than in ITC, while aiming to table your opponent isn't going to guarantee a victory at all.
Best give all the missions that are going to be played there a good read - the little details make the difference.
In general, CA2019 missions seem to be designed to punish stationary castles and skew lists.

As for ork specifics, they key to winning from my experience is hiding gretchin out of sight on objectives while making sure that your opponent can't leave their deployment zone. Take out everything with high mobility as a priority, followed by everything with the means to put out a high number of shots at long range. In my games against competitive armies, I usually have lost the vast majority of my army by turn 3, but my opponent is then left with nothing but slow units that lack the means to wipe out the gretchin scattered across objectives.
I have little experience on going full green tide though, as I hate that play style. I usually run dakka orks or buggies.

Yeah I think so. Need to find that out actually.

My current list is a triple battalion with 2x30 boys, 70 grots, lootas, tank bustas, flash gitz, SSAG, smasha guns and characters. The thing I’m finding is exactly what you’re saying. It’s hard to put pressure on back field objectives even with da jump or deepstriking.

I’ve also tried stormboys in big units but they become target priority number one for the opponents and they’re really hard to hide. Also gave meganobs a shot.
Just hard to get the balance right.

Lootas, tank bustas, smasha guns AND flash gits? That's almost enuff dakka!
In general, you should probably put some less points into shooting and more into bodies and flexibility.

Deep striking MANz are pretty good in EW/maelstrom - you deep strike them onto an objective that is not well defended, destroy whatever is on it and then keep it for yourself. Works especially well with objectives in cover, as 1+ armor MANz are pretty difficult to shift.

Also, don't worry too much about your opponent grinding trough your boyz/storm boyz. Their main objective is keeping your opponent in his deployment zone for the first three turns, and there are little to no VP gained from killing them - unlike in ITC.

I need some help against marines.
My main opponent has begun running imperial fists primaris with a castle of six dakka centurions in cover, usually deployed near the center of the board.
He has the special apothecary with them who can heal twice per turn, as well as a librarian who can heal.
He keeps a chaplain dread nearby for litanies as well as a special character (I forget the name) who hands out buffs as well.
Between all of these buffs, plus devastator protocols, plus stratagems (trans human, auspex scan, etc.) I cant seem to kill a single one of these guys, nor can I afford to ignore them, as they casually overkill two or three of my units per turn.
He also brings an abundance of stalker bolt rifles for targeting characters, as well as jumpack troops for deep strike shenanigans, and the usual MSU primaris squads for objective grabbing and deep strike mitigation.
All of these other threats are dealt with easily, but man, that castle...
Any wisdom/kunnin from you lot is greatly appreciated.
Our games are usually 2000 points and I run mono clan freebootaz.

As an aside, I have been playing since 2003 and have amassed over 10,000 points of orks,
so let’s just assume I have plenty of everything to choose from for list building.

Except meganobz.
Never could get the hang of mega nobz...or Thursdays.

 Chaos Legionnaire wrote:
I need some help against marines.
My main opponent has begun running imperial fists primaris with a castle of six dakka centurions in cover, usually deployed near the center of the board.
He has the special apothecary with them who can heal twice per turn, as well as a librarian who can heal.
He keeps a chaplain dread nearby for litanies as well as a special character (I forget the name) who hands out buffs as well.
Between all of these buffs, plus devastator protocols, plus stratagems (trans human, auspex scan, etc.) I cant seem to kill a single one of these guys, nor can I afford to ignore them, as they casually overkill two or three of my units per turn.
He also brings an abundance of stalker bolt rifles for targeting characters, as well as jumpack troops for deep strike shenanigans, and the usual MSU primaris squads for objective grabbing and deep strike mitigation.
All of these other threats are dealt with easily, but man, that castle...
Any wisdom/kunnin from you lot is greatly appreciated.
Our games are usually 2000 points and I run mono clan freebootaz.

Well, to start, he can only get Dev Doctrine for one turn now. That should help.

Shouldn't our lord and saviour the SSAG be able to crack that nut too?

Just add 2 more SAGs for flavour. Protect the SSAG with grot shields to prevent him from sniping it out.

IIRC, Freebootaz have a Strat to drop rocks on their heads for 3cp. Works best if they are in multiple units. Even if not, you get a chance to get d3 Mortal per unit and character in the area of effect. The closer they cluster, the more units affected :-)

that strat is pretty useless.
People dont even use the better version of it (which costs the same btw) because its so swingy.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
that strat is pretty useless.
People dont even use the better version of it (which costs the same btw) because its so swingy.

Which better version is that?

As OP has 3 battalions he might not mind spending a few CP on this strat though. Never worked for me, but every NW counts (of it isn't healed right away).

There's a lot of problems with it. First, you have to roll a d3 to see how many areas you can put down. Then you have a roll a d6 for each unit within 6" of one of those areas and you deal 1d3 MWs only if you roll a 5+ (6+ for a character). And for this you spend 3 CP (as much as Unstoppable Green Tide). Even if they bunch up, you have pretty good chance of whiffing the whole thing, but assuming you even make all the rolls for it, it just isn't much damage for 3CP. On average, each Primaris unit that you successfully roll against is gonna lose a single model.

 Singleton Mosby wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
that strat is pretty useless.
People dont even use the better version of it (which costs the same btw) because its so swingy.

Which better version is that?

As OP has 3 battalions he might not mind spending a few CP on this strat though. Never worked for me, but every NW counts (of it isn't healed right away).

uh, literally any other form of that bombardment ability?

Orks are the only one that it happens on a 5+/6+. Every other similar effect works on a 4+/5+ to cause mortal wounds (nonchar/character). And it still costs the same.

I ran a campaign where I could one krooza broadside for each objective I held. Despite firing of whopping twelve of them (so about 30 CP), I killed a total of three primaris and one thunderfire cannon. Just don't use it.

BTW, we have am animated video of Thrakka fighting Ragnar:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/08/sunday-preview-sisters-of-battle-complete/

If they keep true to their models with their art like they have recently, Thrakka will twice the height of a marine.

O man that would be so awesome!

Also seems Thraka has a new dakkagun:

Looks like the gun is a quad big shoota instead of a twin big shoota, although I imagine it's going to be a relic version. So like 8 shots with AP-1 and D2.

He does look redemptor sized in that trailer though, which makes me a happy little grot

Thats pretty dope. They better not kill of Ghazzy, but for the hype of the new model and "bringing the Beast back" they probably wont

This is past of current timeline. Ghaz dead would have been mentioned.

Gw doesn't kill of characters with models anyway. Stasis forever.

PiñaColada wrote:
Looks like the gun is a quad big shoota instead of a twin big shoota, although I imagine it's going to be a relic version. So like 8 shots with AP-1 and D2.

He does look redemptor sized in that trailer though, which makes me a happy little grot

Yeah, I do hope it gets a better profile than the Twin Big Shoota, 12x1 damage shots won't do much without AP — Thraka deserves better. Aint no self-respektin Boss gonna let a buncha flashgitz have snazzier shootas