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 deffrekka wrote:

 Kaptin_Grubkrumpa wrote:
If the box set is 105 Pounds, and that price is from GW does that mean a 3rd party retailer will be less expensive? (20% off or so?)

My LGS will be doing it for £80.75, and I asked the only Space Wolves played if he wanted to split it and he said no! So If i can get Ghaz from between £35-40 off eBay I will be. If not ill simply wait 6 months. The Nobs and Meganobs arent doing it for me. I have 15 Meganobs and 40 Nobs... If it were a Deffdread and a completely new kit to make Bully Boys I would have been all over it.

You can I just ordered mine off eBay (seller name is wayestar studio) 5 min ago. There are more than 10 available. I’ll convert a grot for Makari though because price is too high for Makari

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

Thank you. People, do this. Send polite mails to them explaining the problem and proposing solutions. Make sure all our unclear rules are clarified this time.

Perhaps we need to collate what needs clarifying, what needs improving and what is just outright bad?

Maybe wait until we know the contents of PA6 first?

We did this a couple of times in the past, but in the end, it seems many voices are louder than one.

Like what ? Should we agree on something for once and act in a decisive and courteous manner?

I think it shouldn't be done until saturday afternoon when we know what strats etc are in the book, (the NDA will drop by then).

As of right now the only thing I'd write in and plead about is the advance & charge on himself. That's an easy fix and seems like a logical way of getting Ghaz to work in more than one way (tellyporta)

That sounds good to me.

 Emicrania wrote:
Like what ? Should we agree on something for once and act in a decisive and courteous manner?

We're Orkz.... that wont happen

 deffrekka wrote:

 Emicrania wrote:
Like what ? Should we agree on something for once and act in a decisive and courteous manner?

We're Orkz.... that wont happen

How fitting that even in Fluff that is the one thing only Ghaz can achieve - uniting the orks

For Ghazzy is worth

People will probably include other things in their email on saturday about ghaz but really the ultimate change needed is just his aura working on himself.
I dont see why HIS version of the waaagh isnt universal (affecting ORK UNIT). That alone would make him rather interesting.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
People will probably include other things in their email on saturday about ghaz but really the ultimate change needed is just his aura working on himself.
I dont see why HIS version of the waaagh isnt universal (affecting ORK UNIT). That alone would make him rather interesting.

I asked for all ork non vehicle models to work with great waaggh
For makari to deploy with ghaz but act as separate units once deployed
For ghaz to automatically make boy units in his Goff detachment skarrboys for free
But emphasized the waaggh is the faq that needs to be done to make ghaz usable.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
People will probably include other things in their email on saturday about ghaz but really the ultimate change needed is just his aura working on himself.
I dont see why HIS version of the waaagh isnt universal (affecting ORK UNIT). That alone would make him rather interesting.

Probably what happened when he could advance and charge was he was actually doing well in play testing with the casual lists they had on the board.

And they couldn’t have that.

Maybe someone with more points in the speech skill could write a form letter we all could send indepently to GW faq email

Keep calm and wait for the PA book with additional rules.

Conclusion could be made only from the whole context.

So relax and think about the color scheme. That' s the only thing, you can seriously discuss right now.

Are we not getting any previews of strats or warlord traits? On another note, I just dont understand the Monster keyword, what real benefits does it have especially over infantry. I still can't believe Guiliman also cannot ride inside a vehicle

 Tomsug wrote:
Keep calm and wait for the PA book with additional rules.

Conclusion could be made only from the whole context.

So relax and think about the color scheme. That' s the only thing, you can seriously discuss right now.

From someone who had a preview copy, apparently the other content doesn’t fix Ghazghkull problems.

I reckon we’ll see lots of other good PA stuff though.

Monster keyword is actually a negative in 8th edition. It went from one of the best unit types to probably the worst, as theres plenty of vehicle based rules and very few monster based ones.

More than likely he's a monster tag purely because...well...he IS a monster.

 Elfric wrote:
Are we not getting any previews of strats or warlord traits? On another note, I just dont understand the Monster keyword, what real benefits does it have especially over infantry. I still can't believe Guiliman also cannot ride inside a vehicle

The monster keyword gives no buffs whatsoever and could even give away more negatives with certain armies getting buffs or strats vs monsters/vehicles. Im surprised Ghaz cant ride in any transport at all. What Warboss cant ride in his own battlewagon/fortress!!! It isnt fluffy or anything. They only gave it him due to his new models size and to stop him from getting healed from a Painboy.

I want a strategem that lets Ghaz use a trukk and use that as a club for lots of attacks. That would be propa orky! SMASH!!!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/17/orks-da-new-rulezgw-homepage-post-3/

'ere we go, mostly flying 'eadbutt that interests me here but fun stuff overall

Edit: I mean the spanner strat is great for big blobs of lootas (and not so much for burnas), assuming you have CP and really want something dead. I also really want to know what a Forktress is

God, those are all basically bad.

The Loota one is 2 CP.. so just like, use a command reroll if you need to? Not like your Lootas will survive 3 rounds anyway.

The flyer one is slightly interesting, about it.

new Rulez!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/17/orks-da-new-rulezgw-homepage-post-3/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=40k&utm_content=40kork170320&fbclid=IwAR1_wR9keVt593tALGWqClB_nIWufn-FYubccgvFMAvUOnz9JLtItUY8J4g

Well new psychic powers (one for each clan) could easily be good and the ability to buy the kustom jobs for CP instead of getting them for free with the mekboy workshop is interesting. I really thought they'd make us use that thing. I assume we'll get 1 or 2 worthwhile upgrades out of that.

And the flyer strat is solid AF on a burna-bomma IMO. Auto-explode 6" and flat 3 MWs? Krump that castle!

I love the idea of the Crash and Burn automatically with a flyer

PiñaColada wrote:
Well new psychic powers (one for each clan) could easily be good and the ability to buy the kustom jobs for CP instead of getting them for free with the mekboy workshop is interesting. I really thought they'd make us use that thing. I assume we'll get 1 or 2 worthwhile upgrades out of that.

And the flyer strat is solid AF on a burna-bomma IMO. Auto-explode 6" and flat 3 MWs? Krump that castle!

Let's hope the other upgrades are better. Maybe one will be Grot Gunners, which would probably be an auto take.

That psychic power would be epic on Evil Suns. Maybe there will be something to boost the Blood Axe charge rate.

Gruxz wrote:
I want a strategem that lets Ghaz use a trukk and use that as a club for lots of attacks. That would be propa orky! SMASH!!!

Hell yeah ! Best idea ever

That bloodaxe power is actually really interesting. It lasts untill your next turn. In other words, you get to fight first twice! If you want something dead in CC, thats the way to go.

But still... it's bloodaxes lol

Tbh that Blood Axe psychic power is pretty damn good, and the fact it has no range limit is crazy! Just need line of sight. The bad part is its on Blood Axes only and only affects their units


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The Piston Kustom Job seems alright, for maybe a walking dread unit. Im assuming it works for all the unit. Have as Evil Sunz and they are moving 10" with a reroll to advance. Pair that with a Deffkilla Wartrike and they can charge after. Pretty tasty.


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Also I would never get a Mek Shop just to get a kustom Job for free. 1. the Mek Shop is still squig gak. 2. it uses up one of your force org slots..... you could have 3 Battalions and simply pay the CP for the Kustom Job. Otherwise your loosing 5CP anyway to take a force org for a fortification

everybody else gets an auto explode strat "before you roll the die"

We get "after moving, it dies and blows up" seriously? what kind of gak is that? if it had an extra effect on top sure but wtf gw?
So a dakkajet reduced to 0 wounds normally, cant use the auto-explode on. It has to actively destroy itself to auto explode. But everyone else just spends a CP whenever it actually dies.
Talk about horse crap.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
everybody else gets an auto explode strat "before you roll the die"

We get "after moving, it dies and blows up" seriously? what kind of gak is that? if it had an extra effect on top sure but wtf gw?
So a dakkajet reduced to 0 wounds normally, cant use the auto-explode on. It has to actively destroy itself to auto explode. But everyone else just spends a CP whenever it actually dies.
Talk about horse crap.

Actually could be very good on Burna Bombers. You use he Burna Bombs in the movement phase, then just blow yourself up. Probably do much damage then you'd ever do keeping it alive.

Honestly, I think you'd want to use the Piston Kustom Job on a mob of Kanz. 9"+1d6" rerollable Advance means their slow speed is far less of an issue.