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Also the burna/loota stratagem requires a Spanner in the unit.

Who the crap uses a spanner lol. If burnas were worth a damn i could see Deathskullz using a spanner purely for another KMB, but nobody else. But of course burnas arent worth a damn lol.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
everybody else gets an auto explode strat "before you roll the die"

We get "after moving, it dies and blows up" seriously? what kind of gak is that? if it had an extra effect on top sure but wtf gw?
So a dakkajet reduced to 0 wounds normally, cant use the auto-explode on. It has to actively destroy itself to auto explode. But everyone else just spends a CP whenever it actually dies.
Talk about horse crap.

I actually like the Flyin' Headbutt, You could do a Flyer Wing of 3 Pyromaniac Burna-Bommers, booming infantry for 3+ for MWs, then fly where YOU want to and denote, showering everyone within 6" straight 3 MWs. At that point the Burna-Bommer has already used it payload and would probably be near death anyway, for 1CP, yeah id do it, kamikaze it right at a castle and let the fire reign. It gives us access to more MWs that is more targettable and also for me, it finally makes me pick between the Blizta and the Burna. I was always quite heavily in the Blitza camp but now Burnas all the way.

"This is a great way for your Boomboyz, Feral Orks, Madboyz and more to gang up together and break some heads."

Feral Orks???

PiñaColada wrote:
Well new psychic powers (one for each clan) could easily be good and the ability to buy the kustom jobs for CP instead of getting them for free with the mekboy workshop is interesting. I really thought they'd make us use that thing. I assume we'll get 1 or 2 worthwhile upgrades out of that.

And the flyer strat is solid AF on a burna-bomma IMO. Auto-explode 6" and flat 3 MWs? Krump that castle!

I will be running two or three in my next game to see the potential. Time to magnetize and paint these two planes I have which were collecting dust

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Also the burna/loota stratagem requires a Spanner in the unit.

Who the crap uses a spanner lol. If burnas were worth a damn i could see Deathskullz using a spanner purely for another KMB, but nobody else. But of course burnas arent worth a damn lol.

Yeah the Klever Spanner strat is pure garbage. I never take a Spanner, and why not just use a CP reroll? Unless your saving it for something else in the shooting phase.... If it was flat 3 shots for 1/2CP then hell yeah. But not for roll an extra dice. If it were roll and extra dice and add both, then we are seriously talking! But obvs we have to get some crap strats.


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Btw whats a Boomboy? I dont remember them at all.

 deffrekka wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Also the burna/loota stratagem requires a Spanner in the unit.

Who the crap uses a spanner lol. If burnas were worth a damn i could see Deathskullz using a spanner purely for another KMB, but nobody else. But of course burnas arent worth a damn lol.

Yeah the Klever Spanner strat is pure garbage. I never take a Spanner, and why not just use a CP reroll? Unless your saving it for something else in the shooting phase.... If it was flat 3 shots for 1/2CP then hell yeah. But not for roll an extra dice. If it were roll and extra dice and add both, then we are seriously talking! But obvs we have to get some crap strats.


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Btw whats a Boomboy? I dont remember them at all.

Probably a subkultur

Well, for Burnas the effect is useful since the D3 is not unit wide like Lootas are.
So for them you'd be rolling 2dice per model. Cant CP reroll the entire unit.

Can you drop both Burna Bombs in a single movement phase?

I don't get how would it work with the new Kustom jobs.

 Emicrania wrote:
I don't get how would it work with the new Kustom jobs.

I imagine its just a CP to upgrade a unit with a Kustom Job, probably more than just 1CP knowing how expensive Ork strats are. If you take a Mek Shop you'll get 1 for free instead (which isnt a good trade).

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Well, for Burnas the effect is useful since the D3 is not unit wide like Lootas are.
So for them you'd be rolling 2dice per model. Cant CP reroll the entire unit.

Actually burnas for burna boyz are unit wide one D3 roll for shots as well, so it's not great on them either.

Think the auto explode is very nasty. Bring 3 burnas, crash each per turn after they bomb. That'll just stop castle armies.

Think even the better aspect of it is people will focus fire them out of fear. That leaves you entire army to move up and do what needs to be done. 3 burnas only costs what... 390?

I think they'll either nerf it to once a game or pull back the burna to d3 like the rest of the planes.

Orkimedez_Atalaya wrote:

 deffrekka wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Also the burna/loota stratagem requires a Spanner in the unit.

Who the crap uses a spanner lol. If burnas were worth a damn i could see Deathskullz using a spanner purely for another KMB, but nobody else. But of course burnas arent worth a damn lol.

Yeah the Klever Spanner strat is pure garbage. I never take a Spanner, and why not just use a CP reroll? Unless your saving it for something else in the shooting phase.... If it was flat 3 shots for 1/2CP then hell yeah. But not for roll an extra dice. If it were roll and extra dice and add both, then we are seriously talking! But obvs we have to get some crap strats.


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Btw whats a Boomboy? I dont remember them at all.

Probably a subkultur

I mean in the lore... we know what Madboyz are and Feral Orkz, but what was a Boomboy. I was thinking a type of Stormboy? Or maybe Orkz that specialise with grenades.

So you need the mek Workshop to access the Kustom Jobs,..?

tulun wrote:
Can you drop both Burna Bombs in a single movement phase?

No. Is a stratagem. So once per phase. Is ok. Nothing groundbreaking.

Ah, I misread the text. I think the Orkymatic Pistons would be a good job if it was army wide, but it is only one unit... So you buy a mek workshop to give a unit that isn't that great +3 to move?

 deffrekka wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Also the burna/loota stratagem requires a Spanner in the unit.

Who the crap uses a spanner lol. If burnas were worth a damn i could see Deathskullz using a spanner purely for another KMB, but nobody else. But of course burnas arent worth a damn lol.

Yeah the Klever Spanner strat is pure garbage. I never take a Spanner, and why not just use a CP reroll? Unless your saving it for something else in the shooting phase.... If it was flat 3 shots for 1/2CP then hell yeah. But not for roll an extra dice. If it were roll and extra dice and add both, then we are seriously talking! But obvs we have to get some crap strats.


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Btw whats a Boomboy? I dont remember them at all.

Isn't the point that you would get the 2 dice pick the best every time you shot? Seems pretty good to me if you're already investing in badmoons double shooting.

 Emicrania wrote:

tulun wrote:
Can you drop both Burna Bombs in a single movement phase?

No. Is a stratagem. Do once per phase.

I meant these:

he meant the actual burna bomb that Burna Bombers drop.

They have 2. And i believe theyre locked to once a turn.

Meaning you are either not using 1 or hoping they dont kill it while you wait a turn to drop another.

 Kaptin_Grubkrumpa wrote:
So you need the mek Workshop to access the Kustom Jobs,..?

no only to get 1 for free


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 careh wrote:

 deffrekka wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Also the burna/loota stratagem requires a Spanner in the unit.

Who the crap uses a spanner lol. If burnas were worth a damn i could see Deathskullz using a spanner purely for another KMB, but nobody else. But of course burnas arent worth a damn lol.

Yeah the Klever Spanner strat is pure garbage. I never take a Spanner, and why not just use a CP reroll? Unless your saving it for something else in the shooting phase.... If it was flat 3 shots for 1/2CP then hell yeah. But not for roll an extra dice. If it were roll and extra dice and add both, then we are seriously talking! But obvs we have to get some crap strats.


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Btw whats a Boomboy? I dont remember them at all.

Isn't the point that you would get the 2 dice pick the best every time you shot? Seems pretty good to me if you're already investing in badmoons double shooting.

Id rather use a CP reroll than blast 2CP on the strat.

Ugh, I have GOT to see these other specialist mobs now.

Any thoughts on using a Morkanaut now that it can move 11" a turn with a Kustom job with reroll advances?

All of a sudden it's keeping up with Battlewagons. Battlewagons at codex points, overpriced. Battlewagons with 5++ maybe more appealing?

 Kaptin_Grubkrumpa wrote:
Ah, I misread the text. I think the Orkymatic Pistons would be a good job if it was army wide, but it is only one unit... So you buy a mek workshop to give a unit that isn't that great +3 to move?

The Mek Shop is only needed to give a Kustom Job for FREE. you can still spend CP to do it WITHOUT the Mek Shop

Also, a unit of Deff Dreads can be 3, correct? So would that mean that each dread in the mob got the +3 to move?

Yeah, that flying headbutt stratagem is almost broken good. It's crazy what you can do with a base that big, especially to armies that try to have a bunch of units clustered around a character for their aura. Or better yet, a bunch of characters all bunched together. I'd happily trade a plane for 10-15 unstoppable mortal wounds, especially since you can drop the burna bomb first and do a bunch more.

Depending on how subcultures work, this could actually make burna boyz useful as well. AP -2 and rerolling wounds in combat is actually pretty nasty, and rerolling the number of shots for shooting actually closes the gap with D6 flamers somewhat.

 Kaptin_Grubkrumpa wrote:
Also, a unit of Deff Dreads can be 3, correct? So would that mean that each dread in the mob got the +3 to move?

Yeah if Kustom Jobs do infact affect the whole unit and not just an individual vehicle

I think that stratagem is best with kanz and deff dredd. [Mek shop]

The plane stratagem, you are REALLY getting overexcited about it. It already exploded on a 4+, which with a reroll was already 75% of chance to explode. Now we pay 1 CP to be sure.
Good? Yeah
Broken? Not by far.

Hmm, looks like they are giving us some cool stuff, the mekboy workshop for Free Upgrade, is interesting, depending on your build could be really useful. And yes Flying Headbutt is hilarious and for just 1 CP My Burnabommer will use it every Game, Until Every body wises up and shoots it out of the sky first turn. Too Bad about Ghazz but there not totally screwing us methinks.

That eadbutt is a dirty dirty boi

It almost demands use just for how much fun cratering an enemy formation would be.

Also equally discriminates against elite infantry or vehicles.

Yeah i dont think i'd ever do that kustom job on a naut.

Reasoning being: Nauts have a lot of heavy guns, you dont wanna advance it as it is and 8" movement is still enough to get places decently quick. I usually dont have an issue getting my morkanaut places, but my kanz? dreads? oh god they'd LOVE that rule.

Im assuming Kustom Jobz will be like relics, 1/3CP for 1/2 kustom jobs and the Mekshop giving a third.
Maybe (doubtful) they will tweak how the mekshop works?

 acme2468 wrote:
Hmm, looks like they are giving us some cool stuff, the mekboy workshop for Free Upgrade, is interesting, depending on your build could be really useful. And yes Flying Headbutt is hilarious and for just 1 CP My Burnabommer will use it every Game, Until Every body wises up and shoots it out of the sky first turn. Too Bad about Ghazz but there not totally screwing us methinks.

It really depends how much CP the Kustom Jobs cost. As your going to have to sacrifice one of your 3 detachments (if you take all 3) to get a Fortification Network and then pay 80pts for the Mek Shop. If you take 3 Battalions your loosing out on an extra 5CP, but if Kustom Jobs are 1CP each then it isnt a fair trade. If Kustom Jobs are 2-3CP then maybe its worth it if you drop like a Spearhead of something for the Mek Shop. As of just now not knowing more, id still rather pay CP than take a Detachment for a Mek Shop that I still wont use physically for my vehicles outside of the Kustom Job.

Unlessssss they update its rules in the PA. Which they could do?