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Random math attack:

Chances per numbers of shots for a full unit of lootas
15: 33.33%
30: 33.33%
45. 33.33%

Re-rolling all ones with CP:
15: 11.11%
30: 44.44%
45: 44.44%

New spanner stratagem (2d3, pick highest)
14: 11.11%
28: 33.33%
42: 55.55%

New spanner stratagem and using CP to not get a one
14: 3.70%
28: 37.04%
42: 59,26%

New spanner stratagem and using CP to roll a three, always re-rolling the lower dice
14: 3.70%
28: 22.22%
42: 74,03%

Just in case you wondered...

better odds for sure but MAN is that cp hungry.
Theyre already CP hungry as it is due to grot shields and showin' off.

Yeah. I think that loota Strat is a dud because it’s too expensive. If it was 1 CP for 14/1 it would be good.

Expensive as in CP cost or the idea of getting 45 friggin lootas!?

5th edition players already have 45 lootas


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In general, it's better than I expected it do be. Might be an option for people who aren't bad moons but want to run lootas.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/20/waaagh-grotsgw-homepage-post-2/

Grot klan rules! Am I the only one that thinks that a 6++ and rerolling 1's to hit on mek guns is pretty strong? A small grot spearhead seems like a good move IMO

Well that's it for me to be playing for ?? Local Gamerooms in the Gamestores have been shutdown here in Kentuckiana . Well it'll give me time to give PA6 a good deep study and figure out the best way to retool my tourney list with it. When-If thing ever get back to normal My WAAAGH!!! will be Better, Stronger, Faster!
And who know maybe even more painted too

PiñaColada wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/20/waaagh-grotsgw-homepage-post-2/

Grot klan rules! Am I the only one that thinks that a 6++ and rerolling 1's to hit on mek guns is pretty strong? A small grot spearhead seems like a good move IMO

hell go batallion and dump a wierdboy or kff mek/badrukk (if you are already bringing flash gitz) for better cp.

PiñaColada wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/20/waaagh-grotsgw-homepage-post-2/

Grot klan rules! Am I the only one that thinks that a 6++ and rerolling 1's to hit on mek guns is pretty strong? A small grot spearhead seems like a good move IMO

Mek guns gain 6++ invul and get better at killing vehicles?

Yeah that’s really good. If they are somehow also “deathskulls” or whatever, that’s so good

So Killa Kanz will be getting re-roll 1's in CC and shooting?

 Elfric wrote:
So Killa Kanz will be getting re-roll 1's in CC and shooting?

Yup, its just to hit rolls, so it applies to both.

Between that and the buff to hit in CC with a WAAAGH! Banner, that could make Kanz actually worth considering, especially with the Mekboy Workshop upgrade.


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PiñaColada wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/20/waaagh-grotsgw-homepage-post-2/

Grot klan rules! Am I the only one that thinks that a 6++ and rerolling 1's to hit on mek guns is pretty strong? A small grot spearhead seems like a good move IMO

I think given how Mek Gunz are already one of our strongest units in our codex, we'll be seeing a spearhead or battalion with the grot subkultur in every competitive list now. It's a flat upgrade with pretty much no downside if you take Weirdboyz as your mandatory HQ's.

Now that means you have kanz with 4 Klaw A a piece hitting on 5's rerolling 1's +3" move 3+ 6++. If they can use some stratagems to get a bit better or less LD dependent, you got a nice deal

I think Mek Guns have not been showing up in Top 4 / 8 lists actually, due to how easily they give up Gangbusters and such.

But who knows, maybe this'll push them over the top again, given this is a really solid offensive and defensive buff...


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 Emicrania wrote:
Now that means you have kanz with 4 Klaw A a piece hitting on 5's rerolling 1's +3" move 3+ 6++. If they can use some stratagems to get a bit better or less LD dependent, you got a nice deal

I somehow don't think we'll get much in the way of LD buffs for KK. They'll have to be babysat by your Warboss.

Not the end of the world, but I'm not sure I'd take them in a competitive list. And given how most people's warbosses are Evil Suns and you probably want this as like.. bad moons or death skulls, not sure if your warboss will even be the right clan for breakin' heads.

Mek gunz have their flaws too, if you play competitively. They take up a big chunk of the deployment, they give up easily VP and once you charge thru with a DS unit, you can shut down 3 or per ds unit pretty easily.


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tulun wrote:


Not the end of the world, but I'm not sure I'd take them in a competitive list. And given how most people's warbosses are Evil Suns and you probably want this as like.. bad moons or death skulls, not sure if your warboss will even be the right clan for breakin' heads.

Agree here. Just us gonna be nice to try it in more relaxed atmosphere or corona-TTS environment

 Emicrania wrote:
Now that means you have kanz with 4 Klaw A a piece hitting on 5's rerolling 1's +3" move 3+ 6++. If they can use some stratagems to get a bit better or less LD dependent, you got a nice deal

Yeah but are you going to spend a CP/buy a mek workshop to give them the +3 M?

So, less chance of mortal wounds on KMK? Good, good.

killakanz are going to absolutely love that grot kulture....
Combined with the 3" movement and adv reroll bonus? killakanz might be pretty good now.

What gets me real hyped is that this kultur is pretty good and per the article there's more than one of them. Combine this with some grot strats maybe and we're in real business. I'd love to field more of my little gribblies!

Grot rules are interesting In a multi detachment list.
It makes playing Mek Guns, and possibly kans better. This is worse then deathskulls though for big meks.

But what got me in the preview is how they included the Shokk atk gun Mek when it doesn’t have a Gretchin keyword unless you take the optional oiler? Is this subculture not locked to Gretchin units?

Also it’s exciting to see forgeworld units are being promoted on the community page.

You can probably include other units in with the Subculture, but they won't benefit from it.

So im thinking ideally you would want to take battallions with 2HQ (SSAG and Weirdboy), 3x 10 grots and a bunch of mek guns? Most people were basically taking this anyway for CP, but now the mek guns will get rerolls!

Yeah exactly, it's probably just the current grot rule in reverse

I really wonder whether we get to pick two of those abilities or if it's just one per detachment.

What might be interesting and thematic is if they allowed runtherdz to be HQs in a Gretchin subculture.

 Jidmah wrote:
I really wonder whether we get to pick two of those abilities or if it's just one per detachment.

Yeah it really needs to be two if they want people to base whole armies.

Like the pyrotechnics detachment seems amazing only on an air wing, not a 3 detachment army.

 Billagio wrote:
So im thinking ideally you would want to take battallions with 2HQ (SSAG and Weirdboy), 3x 10 grots and a bunch of mek guns? Most people were basically taking this anyway for CP, but now the mek guns will get rerolls!

And a 6++ (unless they lack the keyword ?) ! That can cause an extra lascanon to be directed at them ! There might be salt again thrown at our dear smashas

 Jidmah wrote:
I really wonder whether we get to pick two of those abilities or if it's just one per detachment.

Ill put money on it and say no. By the looks of it we arent building our own klans but using a replacement. So the two that we have had previewed wouldnt be taken as both together as a single klan tactic but 1 for each separate detachment each. We are already getting numerous benefits from each new subkulture, looking at the build-a-bear ones from previous PAs they dont have numerous benefits per option, like long range marksmen is just +3" range, not +3" and reroll 1s to hit. So im pretty certain we just pick 1 per detachment i you wanna replace a klan.

When is the ndr gonna drop?

 Emicrania wrote:
When is the ndr gonna drop?

Tomorrow at 10am


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its always as soon as preorders are live which is 10am

Grot subculture is insane
My 18 smasha guns thank you gw!!