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We can probably move on from the Primer vs Base Coat argument - they don't appear to be marketed as a primer, just as a base coat, so we can safely assume that they're intended as a base coat and not a primer.
Whether or not that means you need to buy a separate primer will come down to how well these adhere to and cover models without one, which we're not really going to know until they're out in the wild.
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insaniak wrote: We can probably move on from the Primer vs Base Coat argument - they don't appear to be marketed as a primer, just as a base coat, so we can safely assume that they're intended as a base coat and not a primer.
Whether or not that means you need to buy a separate primer will come down to how well these adhere to and cover models without one, which we're not really going to know until they're out in the wild.
From Vallejo's Facebook page:
Acrylicos Vallejo wrote: Yes, you can use it like Primer on plastic, metal and resin without any problem.
Still if you want a proper primer from Vallejo, get something with 'primer' in the name.
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- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
It's unlikely to be an issue. Miniatures, particularly plastics, really don't need an actual primer. So their statement is effectively correct, assuming the sprays are reasonable quality.
Weirdly excited for this! Who would have thought spray cans could make me giddy. Hopefully this will make other manufacturers up their game too. As long as they are as good as they look.
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They've only been available for 10 days and it's Christmas time...admittedly I sent an email to Neal at the Warstore and don't believe I heard back. This time of year is hectic, so I assume we'll see some actual stuff on the street by mid-January.
This is great as I find Army Painter and especially Citadel to be way overpriced. Sadly there aren't many places to get Vallejo here without ordering; a few stores stock some of the range but nobody stocks all of it.
This looks to be in line with the AP prices for the amount you'll likely be getting. You can get AP for around $12 a can, GW closer to $20, and this looks like - with discount - it may be around $10 or so, albeit 3 oz. less.
Interesting at first, but looking through their color selection I see little of use to me. Their desert yellow and Panzer yellow don't match the Vallejo paints I use for these purposes, and usinf a spay can to base coat 15mm infantry is kind of pointless since you invariably need to go over it with a brush anyway to get complete coverage. Nothing else I do requires mass painting miniatures in one color.
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Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
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Amazing and just what I've been waiting for. Finally get can the backlog of models completed at a much more rapid pace... assuming my store can order these.
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This is irritating. Two months since announcement, one month since they're ostensibly available, but still not for sale anywhere I can find and the couple of places I phoned(big online hobby retailers who stock Vallejo) hadn't even heard of them.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
I fear they'll be like some of the colours of Tamiya spary paints, they exist on paper but nobody in the supply chain ever sees them
actually I'm wrong ebay has just had a UK model shop listing some of these so it looks like they're just appearing (or perhaps they've special ordered direct from Vallejo)
My distributor here in Canada has told me that they expect to receive their first shipment of these from Vallejo sometime in late January or early February. Looking forward to it!
A little more info on the product, but none on who will be carrying the paint
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
I managed to get hold of a can of the German Field Grey through ebay(it seems pretty much the only place this stuff is actually for sale is bloody Poland), and apart from the trouble getting it, I can say it's great stuff.
The colour match with the Model Air version of the colour is very good, it's nice and opaque so covers well, and it seems to work well enough as a primer(it took an actual metal tool to scrape it off my test sprue).
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
ACD Distribution is showing that these paints were released yesterday, so if your FLGS has an account with them they should be able to order them for you.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Starting to see them on eBay sporadically but at inflated prices with awful shipping. Haven't seen it at any of my online go-to shops yet. Lots of UK listings on eBay as well.
Normal local store, not a big chain. I wanna say they are $12.99, but that might be off by a dollar. Minor quibble, they don’t Say what color they are on the can, they just color the top area around the nozzle. Most of the time that’s probably ok, but it makes the silver one look weird because it just looks like an unlabeled metal can.
I've bitten the bullet and ordered a can from ebay.
The can itself was £10.99 which I think is pretty reasonable, sadly postage was £5 which seems a bit steep.
However it puts it at about GW price before discount so not world-breakingly bad.
I have ordered a can of Ultramarines blue which should be an almost perfect match to Citadel's Altdorf Guard Blue, assuming it matches the Game Colour paints themselves.
I will test it out on some spare Primaris I have to see what it looks like and post the results but if it works I will be buying lots of cans of this as it will save me so much time.
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AduroT wrote: Normal local store, not a big chain. I wanna say they are $12.99, but that might be off by a dollar. Minor quibble, they don’t Say what color they are on the can, they just color the top area around the nozzle. Most of the time that’s probably ok, but it makes the silver one look weird because it just looks like an unlabeled metal can.
They do man, it's just tucked around the back next to the barcode.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
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