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 Daedalus81 wrote:
This stuff might not all be in that box, but subsequent releases shortly thereafter.

Well, I think the CSM side is all known to be in the box, right? GW has to fill the Primaris side with something.

 Redemption wrote:


This guy? Looks like a regular bolt rifle to me, but I guess time will tell.

Most likely. But if they don't have that, I got some glue and a knife, and I know how to order stuff on Shapeways...

The autocannon guy looks cool. Personally I wish it was an onslaught Gatling cannon, but you can’t have everything. A primaris guy with a long-ranged gun has been missing from the range and this fills that gap.

Why you’d want a devastator to have a grav chute is kind of beyond me, but actually these recon guys would need their own deployable anti-tank options. All good.

To avoid any confusion, I want to clarify why I think these models are monopole/ETB/whatever. My argument is that they look like monopose models to me. That’s all I’m saying. I could be wrong and I hope I am.

I’d be surprised if we saw a primaris vehicle in the set. We know we’re getting probably three characters, some recon dudes, snipers and these autocannon guys. That’s already something between 18 and 23 models just on the primaris side (or fewer if you don’t get full 5 man squads of the specialists). Then you add CSMs on top, including their daemon engine, and there are going to be a really large number of models in that box.

Of course, it’ll only start to matter what CSM models look like and whether they are monopose or full kits (or both) when GW produces rules that cause people to actually use them in games. Until then they are pretty, but kind of irrelevant.

Please be Predator Autocannons with Strength 8, please GW.

This is hopefully the much needed heavy fire support for Primaris Marines. We only need a cheap transport now.

GW has my money for this box.

 Crimson_ wrote:
Please be Predator Autocannons with Strength 8, please GW.

This is hopefully the much needed heavy fire support for Primaris Marines. We only need a cheap transport now.

GW has my money for this box.

Manportible weapons shouldnt be more powerful than those carried on tanks and knights. Given primaris weapons, id think 6 in extra range and an extra ap over a normal autocannon.

 Crimson_ wrote:
Please be Predator Autocannons with Strength 8, please GW.

This is hopefully the much needed heavy fire support for Primaris Marines. We only need a cheap transport now.

GW has my money for this box.

People are thinking Armiger Helverin Autocannons, but man-portable Predator Autocannons would be pretty awesome as well. The fact they are drop troops makes it so they can deal with those pesky LOS-ignoring tanks any whatnot easier.

I'm hoping there's not too much bulky mess on them. If so, I'll get to converting with my heresy-era jump packs, the wing fins, and some Hellblaster bodies.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Crimson_ wrote:
Please be Predator Autocannons with Strength 8, please GW.

This is hopefully the much needed heavy fire support for Primaris Marines. We only need a cheap transport now.

GW has my money for this box.

Manportible weapons shouldnt be more powerful than those carried on tanks and knights. Given primaris weapons, id think 6 in extra range and an extra ap over a normal autocannon.

Yeah that's right. It's kinda their thing with boltgun-> boltrifle, plasmagun-> plasma-incinerator. +6" -1Ap

Just add some size-45 Go Go Gadget bouncy-shoes

 Crimson_ wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Crimson_ wrote:
Please be Predator Autocannons with Strength 8, please GW.

This is hopefully the much needed heavy fire support for Primaris Marines. We only need a cheap transport now.

GW has my money for this box.

Manportible weapons shouldnt be more powerful than those carried on tanks and knights. Given primaris weapons, id think 6 in extra range and an extra ap over a normal autocannon.

Yeah that's right. It's kinda their thing with boltgun-> boltrifle, plasmagun-> plasma-incinerator. +6" -1Ap

The +6" range would be odd since Autocannons already have 48", but the addition AP would be great. S7, AP-2, D2, 2 shots is not bad. It might end up being D:d3 though. That seems to be the trend for some recent weapons.
Although it would also be interesting if they had the same Assault/RF/Heavy variations that Intercessors/Hellblaster have

Maybe:
Assault 3, S6, AP-1, D2
RF2, S7, AP-2, D:d3
Heavy 2, S8, AP-2, D:3

Or something like that

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I see a bolt rifle rather than mini gun in that picture, but if we do get some sort of mini gun i’m so painting an MTV t-shirt on one of my Primaris Marines.

At this point, my only disappointment is that it's an Ultramarines set instead of Raven Guard.

But hey we know the Ultramarines lose! Thanks Vigilus Defiant!

A better picture of the heavy weapon primaris.


I love the new heavy weapons drop primaris.

phillv85 wrote:
I see a bolt rifle rather than mini gun in that picture, but if we do get some sort of mini gun i’m so painting an MTV t-shirt on one of my Primaris Marines.

I agree that shot shows a bolt rifle.

[speculation]I wonder if the autocannon guys will have some kind of suspensors that mean they can move and fire heavy weapons without a penalty[/speculation]

I don't particularly care what the profile of the guns is, so long as they are priced appropriately. A squad of primaris guys with normal autocannons would be pretty great for fire support. You'd get a decent number of shots, strength, damage etc. for something like 30 points. If it's got better AP, mobility, strength or damage then that would be nice, but the unit would work without.

So the possibility of some Marine drop troops that *may* actually be useful. That said they will probably be worth it for rule of cool alone. Exciting times.

Hopefully they have a more elegant flying base than the Inceptors.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
A better picture of the heavy weapon primaris.

Spoiler:

I love the new heavy weapons drop primaris.

Now I'm wondering how many people will recognize that as a Rifts SAMUS, and not GW concept art.

Shadowspear is quickly becoming a must-buy for me.

Voss wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
A better picture of the heavy weapon primaris.

Spoiler:

I love the new heavy weapons drop primaris.

Now I'm wondering how many people will recognize that as a Rifts SAMUS, and not GW concept art.

The question is if Kevin Siembieda notices and if he thinks he can sue GW lol

Voss wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
A better picture of the heavy weapon primaris.

Spoiler:

I love the new heavy weapons drop primaris.

Now I'm wondering how many people will recognize that as a Rifts SAMUS, and not GW concept art.

Well, more than one at any rate

Based on the video the weapon will 100% be called

DoomFury Cawl Auto-Cannon

With 2 more fire modes of

Auto DoomFury Cawl Auto-Cannon
Heavy Doomfury Cawl Auto-cannon (1 shot only)

I'll give it to GW I never expected drop troop devastators. With all these drop troop variants I don't think Primaris will see a drop pod.

All in all I think this box is a sell for me now. Though I'm curious what those auto cannons will be Stat wise. Inceptors have basically assault heavy bolters so will these guys have assault auto cannons since they are designed to drop in?

I'm also thinking that the other devastator is not flying but dropping in seeing as how there are no forms of propulsion on them

I've had another look at the drop devastators and they seem to have a bigger backpack than reivers. It looks like there's more going on there than just the aileron things that reivers have - there's also some kind of a jet like you see on inceptors. And there are things sticking out of their legs too.

I don't know what this will mean in games terms, but it looks to me like it could potentially mean they are more like jump infantry than just having the option to deep strike.

Bizarre marine is bizarre.

-Unique helmet.
-Unique auto-cannon/belt fed cannon
-Grav chute vanes...but not as big as Inceptor?
-Grav boots ala Inceptor
-Winglets on the boots/greaves

....all I see:

@Elbows

Gundam is one of the inspiration for space marine designs last I remember so that would make sense I guess.

Only thing I am thinking about is how annoying it is going to be to mount that on flight stand.

Don't use that piece of gak flying stand...brass rod exists for a reason.

Yep, They’ll be Mars Pattern autocannon Eliminators. S7 AP-3 assault 4. Downright better than all other similar weapons, but preds and mini marines inexplicably won’t be able to use them... Whilst my STC templates weep in the corner.

They do look pretty cool though.

Until the Vanguard Eliminators all the Primaris infantry kits have had at least two weapon builds(and the Eliminators still could). So fingers crossed for more than one option on these new guys. Looking at there armour I think its a safe bet they are going to be deep strikers. With no large backpack turbine exhausts they are probably not jump troops. But the Incepter style boots and smaller jets could act as a stabilizing system to allow them to move and fire without penalty.

Primaris Scourges. Huh.

I'm looking forward to coming up with ideas for these Autocannon dudes to translate to MiniMarine standards.