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2019/03/20 19:20:44
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Dakka Veteran
Vihti, Finland
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Well I am actually intereste in those possesed in the background. Those do look bigger but it could be eyes playing tricks or those being actually being conversions.
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2019/03/20 19:22:30
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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I think they are the same old possessed just in a weird position.
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2019/03/20 19:22:48
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Furious Raptor
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Is it just me or does the new Dark Apostle look like he has a napkin tucked in his armour ready for his dinner?
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2019/03/20 19:26:57
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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If the leaks on the roter canon are true and it is heavy 8 s5 -1 for 20 pts then a 5 man squad with one of those and a combi bolter on sarge would only be 87pts and pump out 18 shots at 24" thats pretty solid IMHO. Its 8 points cheaper then 5 noise marines and it has 3 more shots, 8 of which are at higher strength and AP.
I actually don't think CSM are that bad at all with that set up.
3 of those with red corsair trait and a lord with the relic combi and you have a very decent fire base and solid CP farm.
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2019/03/20 19:30:09
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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I haven't seen these rumors, is there more?
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2019/03/20 19:31:05
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
Battle Barge Impossible Fortress
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I hope it's a Hades autocannon.
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2019/03/20 19:31:45
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/20 19:37:47
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Dakka Veteran
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Like hell if they will make an AC fire 8 shots lol
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2019/03/20 19:38:48
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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found this on reddit
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2019/03/20 19:41:18
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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 Arachnofiend wrote:Kdash wrote:Something i've just noticed... Do Masters of Possession gain access to the god specific psychic powers or not? I'm presuming they do, but hadn't thought about it until now.
They don't. The god-specific powers are part of the Dark Hereticus discipline, which the MoP does not get access to. There's a roundabout way to do it by paying to swap out a psychic power with a stratagem.
Thanks!
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2019/03/20 19:46:48
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
Battle Barge Impossible Fortress
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Hm, would be nice if TS could at least swap to one of those powers via Chaos Familiar strat
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2019/03/20 19:48:43
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Red Corsair wrote:If the leaks on the roter canon are true and it is heavy 8 s5 -1 for 20 pts then a 5 man squad with one of those and a combi bolter on sarge would only be 87pts and pump out 18 shots at 24" thats pretty solid IMHO. Its 8 points cheaper then 5 noise marines and it has 3 more shots, 8 of which are at higher strength and AP.
I actually don't think CSM are that bad at all with that set up.
3 of those with red corsair trait and a lord with the relic combi and you have a very decent fire base and solid CP farm.
My thoughts as well. I'm eager to see everything as this point, but I doubt there is little to kick me off the CP farm.
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2019/03/20 19:51:07
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Dakka Veteran
Vihti, Finland
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Damn that reaper cannon looks beefy as hell! 
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2019/03/20 19:55:14
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Wayniac wrote:Also, people saying "JUST WAIT FOR THE WHOLE BOOK" have thus far been proven to be wrong just about every single time when everyone's fears/issues are just proven to be right.
I mean, except for the times they were wrong. You just count the hits and ignore the misses.
See a few examples in the following:
-Ork lists featuring Trakktor kannons and other Mek Gunz will steamroll the competitive meta
-Genestealer Cultist lists featuring abberrant bombs will steamroll the competitive meta
-The tau codex makes tau useless and nerfs them super hard and they will never be seen in a tournament again
-Deldar wyches and reavers are the most broken things in the game and will steamroll the competitive meta
-Deathwatch with storm bolters and storm shields post- CA are ridiculously op and will steamroll the competitive meta
If you don't remember these things, it's because your brain is probably wired similarly to all human brains: To notice every successful prediction and go "PATTERN PATTERN PATTERN PATTERN".
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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2019/03/20 19:58:52
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Lieutenant General
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
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2019/03/20 20:18:55
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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 Daedalus81 wrote: Red Corsair wrote:If the leaks on the roter canon are true and it is heavy 8 s5 -1 for 20 pts then a 5 man squad with one of those and a combi bolter on sarge would only be 87pts and pump out 18 shots at 24" thats pretty solid IMHO. Its 8 points cheaper then 5 noise marines and it has 3 more shots, 8 of which are at higher strength and AP.
I actually don't think CSM are that bad at all with that set up.
3 of those with red corsair trait and a lord with the relic combi and you have a very decent fire base and solid CP farm.
My thoughts as well. I'm eager to see everything as this point, but I doubt there is little to kick me off the CP farm.
And I really don't see what is wrong with adding such a detachment to any LEGION army. It can very well represent recently defected Renegades that are just joining the Legion. So it would make sense for them not to have the same traits as the Marines that have been around for a millennia or so.
I'm excited for what this means for CSM, although I do hope it isn't the start of a trend for other Factions
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2019/03/20 20:29:36
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Red Corsair wrote:If the leaks on the roter canon are true and it is heavy 8 s5 -1 for 20 pts then a 5 man squad with one of those and a combi bolter on sarge would only be 87pts and pump out 18 shots at 24" thats pretty solid IMHO. Its 8 points cheaper then 5 noise marines and it has 3 more shots, 8 of which are at higher strength and AP.
I actually don't think CSM are that bad at all with that set up.
3 of those with red corsair trait and a lord with the relic combi and you have a very decent fire base and solid CP farm.
Where are that leaks please?
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2019/03/20 20:54:51
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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zamerion wrote: Red Corsair wrote:If the leaks on the roter canon are true and it is heavy 8 s5 -1 for 20 pts then a 5 man squad with one of those and a combi bolter on sarge would only be 87pts and pump out 18 shots at 24" thats pretty solid IMHO. Its 8 points cheaper then 5 noise marines and it has 3 more shots, 8 of which are at higher strength and AP.
I actually don't think CSM are that bad at all with that set up.
3 of those with red corsair trait and a lord with the relic combi and you have a very decent fire base and solid CP farm.
Where are that leaks please?
Directly on the Warhammer community page.
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2019/03/20 20:56:34
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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2019/03/20 20:59:02
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I actually think Huron himself is a perfectly good commander to use in the Piratical 17. He's 8 points over a normal sorc for a heavy flamer, a far better melee profile and a reroll aura. Plus another CP if you don't have a good use for a warlord trait.
The other one will be either an elixir prince or a warpsmith with that relic multi melta. With advance+charge you might even budget away the DP wings if you're feeling super duper stingy. And, if you don't, first turn charges with him have a decent chance.
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2019/03/20 21:10:02
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Apostle is pretty meh. Sadly. I'm planning to redo my Word Bearers, after all  I love the attendants, though.
Strangely enough I ordered a box of Delaque with my Shadowspear copy to represent an attendant for each CSM. Mixing in Flagellant and Cawdor bits in, probably. I love the juxtaposition of Astartes and humans and the artwork of Marines being armed for battle.
The Terminators are bugging me a bit, I'd like to see them photoshopped with more rounded Indomitus pauldrons, I think the slope in the updated ones makes them a bit too sleek.
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Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights. |
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2019/03/20 21:33:04
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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What are the models next to the new dark apostle?
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Help me, Rhonda. HA! |
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2019/03/20 21:35:55
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Presumably some sort of cultist retinue accompanying him.
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Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. |
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2019/03/20 21:37:42
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Combat Jumping Rasyat
East of England
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The Apostle will look fine once he's had a headswap.
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2019/03/20 21:46:25
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Someone get that man a helmet!
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Deathwatch: 1500 pts
Imperial Knights: 375 pts
30K  2500 pts |
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2019/03/20 21:47:41
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Holy mother of dinobots, what's the guy on the right riding on? This looks like a huge new centerpiece model...
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 1500 Pts WIP |
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2019/03/20 21:49:22
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Nasty Nob
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I have to say they really aced it with these new Chaos Space Marine models. I was worried that they would ruin them as I loved the old models, but I'm completely sold!
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2019/03/20 21:49:53
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Powerful Ushbati
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 Kosake wrote:
Holy mother of dinobots, what's the guy on the right riding on? This looks like a huge new centerpiece model...
...really.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/13/chaos-space-marines-focus-the-lord-discordant/
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2019/03/20 21:50:00
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Kosake wrote:
Holy mother of dinobots, what's the guy on the right riding on? This looks like a huge new centerpiece model...
The Lord Discordant. You seem a little behind.
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If the truth can destroy it, then it deserves to be destroyed. |
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2019/03/20 21:50:35
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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its been shown off on Warhammer community and discussed a few pages back
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