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Havocs looks soooooo gooooood!!

Looks like the left sprue is repeated, the missile launcher and lascannon have very similar poses but with different greaves and torso fronts (which are seperate parts on the sprue) and ditto for the Heavy Bolter and rotor cannon guys.

 Tiberius501 wrote:

 Latro_ wrote:
sprue

Ooph, looks like only 1 of each heavy weapon. Not all the heavy weapons or bodies on that sprue so I assume there's a second one with 1 of each of the rest. That'll hurt. Still a cool looking kit though.

I'm not seeing enough legs/torsos for 5 guys (might be missing it) so possible there is a second sprue.

GaroRobe wrote:

DamonRafael wrote:


I am genuinely more interested on the way too blurry man on the left.. I want to believe him to be the new chaos lord, even if he could simply be a regular terminator...?

The terminator is the current terminator lord. You can tell by the dark angel helmet on his trophyrack. You can seem him more clearly in the havoc pic. I think he's got an unhelmeted face, which may be a conversionn.

so sad, didn't noticed the previous picture. Thanks for pointing it out!

 buddha wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:

 Latro_ wrote:
sprue

Ooph, looks like only 1 of each heavy weapon. Not all the heavy weapons or bodies on that sprue so I assume there's a second one with 1 of each of the rest. That'll hurt. Still a cool looking kit though.

I'm not seeing enough legs/torsos for 5 guys (might be missing it) so possible there is a second sprue.

the lascannon backpack looks to be on the opposite sprue however, so maybe the 3rd sprue is unique?

 Latro_ wrote:
these are on the website publicly accessible so dakka wont get in trouble... right?

Ok, NOW I'm getting excited. Not that I'll be getting any of these, but it's very nice to have kits with all the options for people.

I wonder if the Havoc and Termie kits will have enough of duplicate options, or if they'll keep the standard 1-2 of each per kit?
Would be nice if the Havocs followed the same design as Devs (2 of each weapon per 5 models)
And hopefully there will be enough Axes and power fists for the whole unit of Termies

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 Tiberius501 wrote:

Ooph, looks like only 1 of each heavy weapon. Not all the heavy weapons or bodies on that sprue so I assume there's a second one with 1 of each of the rest. That'll hurt. Still a cool looking kit though.

~2 of each would be consistent with the loyalist devastator kit that got revamped a few years back.

Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:
Complaining that obliterators are in a two pack would be like complaining that tacticals come in a box of 10 when you want to run 3 units of 5.

That doesn't even make sense. If Oblits come in units of 3, and can only be bought in pairs, that means you always end up with one spare. That's annoying. Tacs at least can be taken as 2x5 or 1x10.

New Dark Apostle, I preferred the old one but it is still pretty good.

we're on a new page so ya'll might of missed

Man those havocs are old school. Back in the Heresy we shot all our lascannons one-handed and we didn't even know what to do with our other hand and we liked it!

 ceorron wrote:
Better picture of the new Dark Apostle, AND Havoks!!!!.

Oh my! *faints*

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
Better picture of the new Dark Apostle, AND Havoks!!!!.

Oh my! *faints*

There are even better images still H.B.M.C.

To Latro_:

Also I don't know why GW would mind us posting these on DakkaDakka really. If they did then maybe they would do something about it and DakkaDakka would get in trouble. Until I see anything that way, I see no problem.

In the end they are just images don't think they are worth all that much, if anything we are giving GW free advertising.

The 2 Havoc sprues shown only include 3 Marines, but 1 of each heavy weapon and all the Champion weapons.
So there either one of the sprues will be doubled (likely considering that would either give you 2 Champions with only 3 total packs, or 6 total packs for only 4 Marines)
Or there is a 3rd sprue we haven't seen with the other 2 Marines and duplicate weapons

If both sprues are doubled, it would get you 2 of each Heavy and enough Marines and packs, but it would also give you 6 total models, which could be cool

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Whilst the Lascannons' fist is a little weird, the rest are very nice. I like the Old Skool style of shoulder launchers, and how the ML is a combination of the original top-down magazine from RT and the big tube launcher of 2nd Ed.

Seems there's a Plasma or Melta for the champ, which is an interesting change. Didn't see a flamer.

Sadly the bodies are all set poses, with torsos and legs connected, but hey, we're kinda getting used to GW minis becoming less and less dynamic/kitbashy.

Still, plastic Havoks. Exactly what I wanted... now can we have an Oblit kit that isn't monopose?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Whilst the Lascannons' fist is a little weird, the rest are very nice. I like the Old Skool style of shoulder launchers, and how the ML is a combination of the original top-down magazine from RT and the big tube launcher of 2nd Ed.

Seems there's a Plasma or Melta for the champ, which is an interesting change. Didn't see a flamer.

Sadly the bodies are all set poses, with torsos and legs connected, but hey, we're kinda getting used to GW minis becoming less and less dynamic/kitbashy.

Still, plastic Havoks. Exactly what I wanted... now can we have an Oblit kit that isn't monopose?

There’s a flamer a little to the left of the plasma/Melta.

Really pleased with those old skool shoulder launchers, brings back RTB01 memories

Hmm... it took 20 years for Havoks to get a plastic kit.

Oh man. This is going to hurt my wallet

Hmm, i would rather see the complete CSM sprue, aas in what heavy weapons are in there. (Hopefully AC and Rotor aswell as the HB)

Not Online!!! wrote:
Hmm, i would rather see the comkplete CSM sprue, aas in what heavy weapons are in there. (Hopefully AC and Rotor aswell as the HB)

We’ll see that tomorrow anyway.

 Latro_ wrote:
sprue

That are 3 dudes, well i count 3 possible complete models, except maybee i am blind?

Ooh those Havocs look good

 Daedalus81 wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
random ideas I came up with in 2 seconds that would help khorne daemon armies more than this crap:

1) A stratagem that lets me move a unit directly towards the nearest enemy unit after taking 1 or more casualties: Bezerk Bloodrage, 1CP

This is unlikely to be actually useful, because then i'll just shoot that unit even harder. Maybe try a rhino next time.

I bow to your towering intellect

Remember Havocs can take 4x Plasma Guns, Flamers, or Melta Guns...

I noticed people were complaining about the weird FW post on warhammer community. I think this might have appeared because, unusually, there are no new FW models going up on preorder this week.

Usually there'd be a community post telling you to buy bomb rats or whatever. They couldn't do that, as there was nothing new, so instead they put in this post telling you to buy old 30k bits.

"Steve that Havoc sprue sure does look great! Love it! I just had one note from the focus group here....uh...

'it seems like people tend to get annoyed when we include only a single copy of each weapon on the sprue, especially when the loyalist equivalent to this unit actually gets two copies of each'

What do you make of that Steve?"

"Oh, those whiners! Look, if I included TWO copies of any of the heavy weapons, I wouldn't have space on here for a melta gun, flamer, power maul, chainsword, bolter, mandatory basing rock, plasma gun or bespoke loincloth for the havoc sergeant!

EEEEEEVERYONE knows you give that guy as many upgrades as you can cram on him! Why, if my havocs ever left home without their Power Maul/Melta Gun sergeant how would they ever get anything done?"

I wonder if the WHC team forgot that a new CSM/terminator kit is about to be released, which will more than likely not be compatible with the 20 year old FW World Eaters kit(s).

I think it's more they saw an easy opportunity to push old, existing upgrade kits (that not a lot of people have probably bought lately) to catch the rush of hype of the new kits. It's still dull, but it's logical for easy money.

the_scotsman wrote:
"Steve that Havoc sprue sure does look great! Love it! I just had one note from the focus group here....uh...

'it seems like people tend to get annoyed when we include only a single copy of each weapon on the sprue, especially when the loyalist equivalent to this unit actually gets two copies of each'

What do you make of that Steve?"

"Oh, those whiners! Look, if I included TWO copies of any of the heavy weapons, I wouldn't have space on here for a melta gun, flamer, power maul, chainsword, bolter, mandatory basing rock, plasma gun or bespoke loincloth for the havoc sergeant!

EEEEEEVERYONE knows you give that guy as many upgrades as you can cram on him! Why, if my havocs ever left home without their Power Maul/Melta Gun sergeant how would they ever get anything done?"

Dude, we only see one of probably 2 sprues for the HAvoc box, because ATM there are only 3 completely assembleable dudes in that sprue, min is 5 however, so maybee we get doubles?