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GaroRobe wrote:
Sad, but not unexpected. I think we've already leaked/seen all the new models the CSM are getting.
Only question is, where's that sorcerer? Maybe a blackstone fortress expansion set?

On a side note, they mistake the Crimson Slaughter on bikes for word bearers. They've got the word bearers symbol on the pic, but that's not them

Well IDK about that, we are still waiting to see alot of the known releases. Notably Terminators, so maybe yet to come?

 ceorron wrote:

GaroRobe wrote:
Sad, but not unexpected. I think we've already leaked/seen all the new models the CSM are getting.
Only question is, where's that sorcerer? Maybe a blackstone fortress expansion set?

On a side note, they mistake the Crimson Slaughter on bikes for word bearers. They've got the word bearers symbol on the pic, but that's not them

Well IDK about that, we are still waiting to see alot of the known releases. Notably Terminators, so maybe yet to come?

The datamined Terminator and Havoc stuff suggests we'll be seeing them go up as part of the "What's Coming Next Week" post today.

It's also worth mentioning that the banner page on the GW webstore proper? It shows a lot of stuff that isn't up for release next Saturday, but is still known.

Anybody who has looked at the new chaos codex:
I am one of the 3 people on Earth who use the fallen
Can anybody tell me if their datasheets have changed at all? Either cyphers or the Fallen?





I assume nobody here has seen the Dex in person or whatever, but it's worth a shot.

I don't believe their datasheet changed, they did, however, get a specialist detachment, OR mini-Renegade trait/icon/etc. bit in the Vigilus book.

Their datasheet wasn't mentioned amongst the changed ones.

The ressemblance is incredible. Kudos to you for this incredible find

New Chaos Space Marines are looking sharp!

I like that they are scaled up as tall as Primaris Space Marine!

Looking forward to more waves of New Chaos Marine minis!

 darkstar6783 wrote:
New Chaos Space Marines are looking sharp!

I like that they are scaled up as tall as Primaris Space Marine!

Looking forward to more waves of New Chaos Marine minis!

They're not, the Primaris are nearly a head taller than the new Chaos Marines.

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 warboss wrote:
People whined when FW introduced a special character (iirc a dark angel chaplain in IA3 Taros?) and people whined there was nothing special about him (or a model iirc).

Don't introduce “special characters”. Introduce characters.
“Hey it's this guy, he is a space marine captain, he has this personality and have this adventure. Since he is a space marine captain you can use the space marine captain to represent him, or better, use the space marine rules to represent the cool character that you got the idea from through immersion on the settings via all those characters (that can be represented with the standard ruleset) we introduced earlier”

I remember when playing special characters required asking specific permission from the opponent.

Yep. always liked this much better than having every army led by some special characters

None of the special characters were broken. If anything, most of them were underpowered.
Rules being fine > Your need for no special characters

Don't know if the Executioner is any good as a unit, but that model is an absolute no-no. If I want to use one, definitely going to be a conversion. probably use the Primaris Chaplain as a base.

Terminators and Havocs coming next week: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/24/24th-mar-coming-soon-new-havocs-and-terminators/

So that confirms there is a 3rd havoc sprue. Wonder why they didn’t show it?

1x Chaingun bit per kit. But, Heavy Bolters are basically the same besides the barrels, so just grab a CSM kit and a Havoc kit, some Assault Cannon bits, and convert away for four Chainguns.

The apparent lack of rhino terminator heads is dissapointing.

 Galas wrote:
The apparent lack of rhino terminator heads is dissapointing.

Looks like just one, but he still has tusks.

from the Community website:

'This kit will allow you to build 5 Havocs, armed with an array of heavy weaponry. Inside, you’ll find 2 missile launchers, 2 heavy bolters, 2 lascannons, 2 autocannons and 1 reaper chaincannon, giving you loads of choice when kitting out your squads. What’s more, all of these heavy weapons are designed to be compatible with the Chaos Space Marines kit, meaning you’ll be able to use your spares to up-gun your chosen squads! A choice of heads, accessories, shoulder pads and more allow you to customise your Havocs even further.'

 bubber wrote:
from the Community website:

'This kit will allow you to build 5 Havocs, armed with an array of heavy weaponry. Inside, you’ll find 2 missile launchers, 2 heavy bolters, 2 lascannons, 2 autocannons and 1 reaper chaincannon, giving you loads of choice when kitting out your squads. What’s more, all of these heavy weapons are designed to be compatible with the Chaos Space Marines kit, meaning you’ll be able to use your spares to up-gun your chosen squads! A choice of heads, accessories, shoulder pads and more allow you to customise your Havocs even further.'

Having just one chaincannon is just plain torture

Luckily it is just simple conversion if using autocannon or heavy bolter as base. And you get other weapons in pairs.

Mr Insomniac wrote:
So that confirms there is a 3rd havoc sprue. Wonder why they didn’t show it?

Given the bitz listed and what we've seen of the painted figs, I suspect the "3rd" sprue is just a combo of the bottom halves of the 2 sprues we've already seen

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have to say a pretty BS move to have 2 of each weapon except chaingun. Smells a little too much of old GW marketing. I will definitely be converting mine, and since I have all the ACs and HBs I need, won't even need to buy the kit. Sorry GW, but this time your marketing ploy backfired for me.

 bullyboy wrote:
have to say a pretty BS move to have 2 of each weapon except chaingun. Smells a little too much of old GW marketing. I will definitely be converting mine, and since I have all the ACs and HBs I need, won't even need to buy the kit. Sorry GW, but this time your marketing ploy backfired for me.

And yeah know.

FW has rotor cannons that look almost exactly the same.

Are they for real? Not even two?
And then they wonder why 3rd parties make money.....

The Devastator kit did the same didn’t it?
Something only got 1, then 2 of the other 4/5 choices.

Galen, again looking at the Dev sprue, I don’t see why it’d be repeats.
Also we know it will have two unique bodies to it, so won’t be exactly the same.
(The Dev kit, the two ML’s for instance, looked very similar, but it wasn’t the same part twice etc)

Yeah, there either has to be a third sprue for the Havocs, or they did a mistake in their article.

Weird that we haven't seen the Terminator sprue. Other units we shown kinda early already.

Sotahullu wrote:
Weird that we haven't seen the Terminator sprue. Other units we shown kinda early already.

incoming only 1 chainaxe.

Shame the Havocs don't have access to a plasma cannon. I was hoping there would be one on the mysterious third sprue.

Pretty lame of them to have double heavy bolters when they know they've been on every core CSM squad for ages.

Yeah, another in the camp soured to buying new havocs after that rude move.

The only weapon people actually want is the one you only get 1 of in the box fantastic :/

The chaincannon thing is truly cheeky. And with the heavy weapons from the CSM kit blatantly obvious they're skimping the new gun when you could have a single HB if you "had" to reduce one weapon choice. Converting some more wouldn't be hard for the barrels, but that ammo chain is pretty awesome and harder to replicate. IMO it's the best ammo feed in GWs range.

I'm also worried about the amount of lightning claws/stabby hobo fingernails on the Termi kit. They've only ever shown the same pair, have they not? And the more I look at the Termis the less I like them, they seem small compared to their tropy skulls.

Oh well, at least the weapon choices included won't be as daft as the regular Death Guard Plaguemarines...I hope.

 Lorek wrote:
Take the background talk to the proper forum, please.

Speaking of which.

 Rydria wrote:
The only weapon people actually want is the one you only get 1 of in the box fantastic :/

That's called marketing genius.

Edit: I wasn't sarcastically calling you a genius, I was saying it was Marketing Genius (one concept).