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The kitbashes are cool. I just wish they'd sell upgrade sprues with enough to accomplish this without having to buy whole kits for bits, but GW needs to take all the money.

I was thinking of using the Noise Marine weapons with the new kits, but seeing the bits on the new bodies, they more than show their age. I think I can do it better with 3rd party bits.

Upgrade kits are cool and all, but they're a bit on the lazy side for kitbash. Better than nothing at all though.

Maybe GW can do a video about how to kitbash 5 standard loadout Chaos terminators with the new kit next.


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On another note these kitbashes are becoming harder/more expensive to do. Enjoy buying the Skullcrusher kit directly from GW for those heads. Same with many of the other fetishes that come from Old World kits that they now keep locked away to themselves.

It's laughable that some think that adding more weapon options would magically increase price by 20$. What GW prices their models at is often pure fantasy pulled from the aether. Look at the 5th edition kits like blood angels or grey knights. Tons of options for LESS that current kits with almost 0 options.

 Kirasu wrote:
It's laughable that some think that adding more weapon options would magically increase price by 20$. What GW prices their models at is often pure fantasy pulled from the aether. Look at the 5th edition kits like blood angels or grey knights. Tons of options for LESS that current kits with almost 0 options.

Exactly. The cost of production of a kit has barely any incidence on it's price.

 Platuan4th wrote:
I do love that they don't mention the use of FW Rotor Cannons on the one squad.

that was like the first thing I noticed lol

 Roknar wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
I do love that they don't mention the use of FW Rotor Cannons on the one squad.

that was like the first thing I noticed lol

Pretty bad when your employees need to find cheaper alternatives

Jokes aside, they might not have had access to them yet when they built them.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Roknar wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
I do love that they don't mention the use of FW Rotor Cannons on the one squad.

that was like the first thing I noticed lol

Pretty bad when your employees need to find cheaper alternatives

Jokes aside, they might not have had access to them yet when they built them.

There's also the case that sometimes where the contributors(read: the community team) themselves might not know where their bits came from.

I have bits in my bits boxes that I couldn't tell you where the hell they came from. It's why I have started labeling the bags that I keep stuff in.

Bit of a stretch to assume they wouldn't know where the resin rotor cannons were from.

Is the Reaper Chain cannon in the Havocs set available for ordinary Imperial marines? I'm looking for a replacement for the assault cannon marine in Space Crusade...

SamusDrake wrote:
Is the Reaper Chain cannon in the Havocs set available for ordinary Imperial marines? I'm looking for a replacement for the assault cannon marine in Space Crusade...

nope chaos only

BrianDavion wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Is the Reaper Chain cannon in the Havocs set available for ordinary Imperial marines? I'm looking for a replacement for the assault cannon marine in Space Crusade...

nope chaos only

Chaos fluff-wise has historically had a lot more trouble with even just maintaining ammunition levels compared to well-supplied loyalists, so it makes sense that chaos has a weapon that uses up 8,000 rounds in ten seconds.

Chaos live a frugal life, conserve ammo and maintain what you have so you can spend big on the days that count

Oh okay. Fair enough! ^_^

 Mothman wrote:
Chaos live a frugal life, conserve ammo and maintain what you have so you can spend big on the days that count

Cheat days, some would say.

But, considering the demon-engine levels that are coming out now, perhaps chaos is finally getting to the point where their supplies are more stable?

 drazz wrote:

 Mothman wrote:
Chaos live a frugal life, conserve ammo and maintain what you have so you can spend big on the days that count

Cheat days, some would say.

But, considering the demon-engine levels that are coming out now, perhaps chaos is finally getting to the point where their supplies are more stable?

Or it uses MINDBULLETS!!11!!

Wasn't that how the old Kai Gun worked?

 ph34r wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Is the Reaper Chain cannon in the Havocs set available for ordinary Imperial marines? I'm looking for a replacement for the assault cannon marine in Space Crusade...

nope chaos only

Chaos fluff-wise has historically had a lot more trouble with even just maintaining ammunition levels compared to well-supplied loyalists, so it makes sense that chaos has a weapon that uses up 8,000 rounds in ten seconds.

Nothing makes sense about that abomination.
It's one weapon, same size as heavy bolter, almost as good as 3 heavy bolter, no reason.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 drazz wrote:

 Mothman wrote:
Chaos live a frugal life, conserve ammo and maintain what you have so you can spend big on the days that count

Cheat days, some would say.

But, considering the demon-engine levels that are coming out now, perhaps chaos is finally getting to the point where their supplies are more stable?

Or it uses MINDBULLETS!!11!!

Wasn't that how the old Kai Gun worked?

Dang I miss my Kai Gun.

 DaveC wrote:
Lord Discordant price

£40 GBP, $65 USD, €55

LOL! That Skeletor dude for 55 Euros? Ten years ago you got a Land Raider for this price. Hard pass, man!

 Strg Alt wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
Lord Discordant price

£40 GBP, $65 USD, €55

LOL! That Skeletor dude for 55 Euros? Ten years ago you got a Land Raider for this price. Hard pass, man!

The fact that it has as much plastic and about 100 times the detail of a land raider tells me I should buy two of them before I buy a land raider.

 ph34r wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 drazz wrote:

 Mothman wrote:
Chaos live a frugal life, conserve ammo and maintain what you have so you can spend big on the days that count

Cheat days, some would say.

But, considering the demon-engine levels that are coming out now, perhaps chaos is finally getting to the point where their supplies are more stable?

Or it uses MINDBULLETS!!11!!

Wasn't that how the old Kai Gun worked?

Dang I miss my Kai Gun.

I would say daemon engines are probably a consequence of poor supply lines. You keep your daemon engine properly fed and it just draws ammo endlessly from hammer-space. Its not like the Hades cannons on a Forgefiend has a way to actually store ammo.

 ph34r wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Is the Reaper Chain cannon in the Havocs set available for ordinary Imperial marines? I'm looking for a replacement for the assault cannon marine in Space Crusade...

nope chaos only

Chaos fluff-wise has historically had a lot more trouble with even just maintaining ammunition levels compared to well-supplied loyalists, so it makes sense that chaos has a weapon that uses up 8,000 rounds in ten seconds.

Lol. This is what I mean about idiotic and inconsistent fluff, using the warp to make bullets would be trivial.

 Togusa wrote:

 ph34r wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Is the Reaper Chain cannon in the Havocs set available for ordinary Imperial marines? I'm looking for a replacement for the assault cannon marine in Space Crusade...

nope chaos only

Chaos fluff-wise has historically had a lot more trouble with even just maintaining ammunition levels compared to well-supplied loyalists, so it makes sense that chaos has a weapon that uses up 8,000 rounds in ten seconds.

Lol. This is what I mean about idiotic and inconsistent fluff, using the warp to make bullets would be trivial.

Everything I understand about the Warp suggests this would not be trivial, and would probably be very dangerous unless the sigils were crafted by a very skilled Warpsmith (and then just moderately dangerous...).

A better explanation is simply that the Reaper chaincannon is based on the Rotor cannon, and therefore uses much simpler ammo than a heavy bolter. Why it gets such powerful stats is the inconsistent part.

HBs are getting the short end of the stick since forever, sadly. Were they not D3 damage in 2ed/Necromunda?

They shoot projectiles that are somewhat armour-piercing self-propelled grenades that are between a modern GL and a RPG-7 projectile in size, though exact dimensions vary between texts.The ones on the havoc are roughly fist-sized. At hundreds of rounds per minute. Things should messily go boom when it fires. A heavy stubber should not come close to it stat-wise and a gatling not several times as good.

Caliber wise, its way below a GL or an RPG, its on par with the cannons on Bradleys and LAV's

I'm definitely complaining about that in the Survey personally, and I encourage you to do it too .

When is the survey btw?

When it's done™.
(We don't know, likely soon)

 Gael Knight wrote:
When is the survey btw?

From Warhammer Community:

The date for this year’s Big Community Survey – your chance to let us know how we’re doing and influence the kind of content, rules and models we give you – has been revealed! You’ll be able to make your voice heard from the 15th of April – and this time around, we’re asking for your feedback on 3 key areas.

Honestly, the chaincannons would be worth their points at AP 0. Heavy Bolters wouldn't be completely invalidated that way.

I really hope they look at the Vanguard Space Marines points. The Infiltrators especially.