[Adepta Sororitas] Made to Order Battle Sister pg 201

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**ImAGeek**

It’s time for some retribution! When it comes to the Adepta Sororitas, this of course means squads of Battle Sisters wielding massive guns. That’s right – today we’re looking at Retributors!

Many of you may remember that when we first announced that we were working on a new Adepta Sororitas range, we showed you a few early examples of their weapons and wargear – including a certain heavy bolter.

Well, here it is again, this time being borne by a Retributor in all her glory!

The Battle Sisters of the Adepta Sororitas are traditionally armed with a bolter, flamer, or melta weapon – known to their Orders as the Holy Trinity. In the case of Retributors, who specialise in providing fire support, this means carrying either a heavy bolter, heavy flamer or multi-melta. In addition to multiple options of each weapon type and a Sister Superior to lead them, the Retributors will have a number of head options, including bare, helmeted, or ones equipped with rebreathers – all of which have their own additional flourishes of detail. For example, the full helm of the Retributor shown above has a built-in targeter for accuracy.

However, if you prefer your heretics chargrilled rather than perforated with heavy bolter rounds, chances are you’ll be looking to equip your Retributors with a heavy flamer or two. Check out this alternative build that can be assembled from the kit…

The heavy flamer’s twin nozzles have been designed in the style of Gothic braziers, matching the vehicle exhausts and other similar details we’ve seen so far across the new range. Nuances of design such as these not only help to unify a miniatures range, but reinforce its own unique identity. In the case of the Adepta Sororitas, this principle is especially important, as they’re one of many military institutions within the Imperium and their Battle Sisters utilise weapons and wargear that are common among them.

Armorium Cherub
That’s not all! The new kit is also set to include a brand-new feature in the form of an Armorium Cherub.

The (cute?) little winged creature is carrying a fuel canister for a heavy flamer. After all, nothing ruins a good purge like running out of promethium before you’ve burnt all the heretics!

**Yodhrin**

What is it with modern GW doing heroic scale on male models but this weird hybrid on female models where the guns are HUEG and the hands a bit oversized, but the heads and feet are almost truescale.

Pick a style and stick to it.

**Galas**

Yodhrin wrote:
What is it with modern GW doing heroic scale on male models but this weird hybrid on female models where the guns are HUEG and the hands a bit oversized, but the heads and feet are almost truescale.

Pick a style and stick to it.

I prefer this style. In this scale and heroic proportions is the only way to make semi heroic feminine miniatures that actually look feminine but not too stilized like Malifaux or Raging Heroes ones.

I don't know. All female models done from GW in the past like 1-2 years have been phenomenal. All the previous ones have been horrible, so I don't think they are doing anything wrong. And they don't look off alongside male models either.

**Geifer**

Can anybody see what's going on with the boob plate? Are they wearing cloth over it or something? I think Ignispacium has a point about the somewhat plain look. I get that same impression and that area I think is where I'm getting it the most. The corset and dividing line between it and the boob plate adds a lot of definition to a Sister's appearance that's not there on the Retributors.

That said, I would expect normal Sisters to look the plainest, so I don't object to the general idea. It's just in this instance it's not just plain, part of the armor looks ill defined.

Yodhrin wrote:
What is it with modern GW doing heroic scale on male models but this weird hybrid on female models where the guns are HUEG and the hands a bit oversized, but the heads and feet are almost truescale.

Pick a style and stick to it.

If only scale was in GW's dictionary...

**Galas**

I think the loincloth is now a tabard they wear over the corset.

As a Dark Angel player I can't say I dislike that

Robes for the win. Now I only need female hooded heads and Sabbat helmets with hoods.

**GoatboyBeta**

Yeah it looks like the Retributors have a robe over there armour. I suppose once painted up it will help to visually differentiate them from regular Sisters with heavy weapons.

**MonkeyBallistic**

Galas wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
What is it with modern GW doing heroic scale on male models but this weird hybrid on female models where the guns are HUEG and the hands a bit oversized, but the heads and feet are almost truescale.

Pick a style and stick to it.

I prefer this style. In this scale and heroic proportions is the only way to make semi heroic feminine miniatures that actually look feminine but not too stilized like Malifaux or Raging Heroes ones.

I don't know. All female models done from GW in the past like 1-2 years have been phenomenal. All the previous ones have been horrible, so I don't think they are doing anything wrong. And they don't look off alongside male models either.

I agree that GW is making some amazing female minis these days. My only issue is that to make them more slender, they often make them taller resulting in all women in the 41st millennium being 6 foot plus and taller than most men.

**Geifer**

Galas wrote:
I think the loincloth is now a tabard they wear over the corset.

Yeah, now that you mention it. Looks kind of off, though. Like the cloth doesn't actually cover armor of the usual design. Hmm. Going to have to see this in plain plastic, I think.

Galas wrote:
As a Dark Angel player I can't say I dislike that Robes for the win. Now I only need female hooded heads and Sabbat helmets with hoods.

Personally I don't think we need Chaos Sisters thank you very much.

**Ignispacium**

I think what's bothering me isn't so much the chest (though something like a gorget or other ornament might help the space there) so much as I was kind of expecting heavier boots or a different style of leg armor to represent rets being more heavily armed support type troops.

Edit,
They're still good models and I'll still be purchasing a few boxes (as long as they're shipped five to a box) but they aren't as bulky as I was hoping.

**Lord Damocles**

The hair on Flamer-butor looks like garbage.

**Galas**

MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Galas wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
What is it with modern GW doing heroic scale on male models but this weird hybrid on female models where the guns are HUEG and the hands a bit oversized, but the heads and feet are almost truescale.

Pick a style and stick to it.

I prefer this style. In this scale and heroic proportions is the only way to make semi heroic feminine miniatures that actually look feminine but not too stilized like Malifaux or Raging Heroes ones.

I don't know. All female models done from GW in the past like 1-2 years have been phenomenal. All the previous ones have been horrible, so I don't think they are doing anything wrong. And they don't look off alongside male models either.

I agree that GW is making some amazing female minis these days. My only issue is that to make them more slender, they often make them taller resulting in all women in the 41st millennium being 6 foot plus and taller than most men.

I haven't seen that. The only female miniatures that are noticially taller that I can think of are Escher and Greyfax, both models with giant heels, and Greyfax is a little off of scale, I'll agree with that.

**pm713**

I find all the complaints about the hair weird. I saw so many people praise the metal models hair but now there's a plastic version that's terrible.

I like it.

**Mr_Rose**

MonkeyBallistic wrote:

I agree that GW is making some amazing female minis these days. My only issue is that to make them more slender, they often make them taller resulting in all women in the 41st millennium being 6 foot plus and taller than most men.

So Denmark won the genetic lottery and populated the diaspora? I have no problem with a galaxy full of Floor Jansens.

**Gael Knight**

They need to make the bottom of that helmet bigger. It's also got too much stuff on it. The side vent is redundant. Just stick to the old style thanks gw. At least the Sisters don't seem to be getting tacticool'd like marines. Good sign.

**BrookM**

Floor Jansens is Dutch though.

**kronk**

The second model’s hair needs more detail. Otherwise, I like them. That Heavy Bolter looks sweet

**Ratius**

Guns are totally oversized

**Irbis**

AndrewGPaul wrote:
I'm not sure that there's as much of a correlation between the "quality" of an army and the sales of the models. Perhaps for the internet community, but in general? I've never met a single person who admitted to choosing their army based on how well it does at tournaments.

Really? Just look at Deathwatch, after they revealed the army two years ago the kits literally flew off the shelves, but once people noticed how terrible* and lazy** rules are, ebay was flooded with half-painted collections, and heamorrhage only speed up after Phil Kelly nerfed the already weak book three times in a row with dumb FAQs and subsequent rules.

I was one of the founding members of DW subforum on B&C, and after massive spike of interest, six months later amount of posters dropped by 95%. Start of 8th edition helped very little (just look at Space Marine index, DW is the only army that has footnotes "you can't take 3/4 of the options" by every single unit they shared with SM) and most of DW players who stayed had a big moment of schadenfreude once DW codex dropped and thanks to a handful of useful options people who dumped the army a year ago came crawling back claiming they were 'always' fans

Or hell, just look at 99% of posts of GK players here or Chaos whining of past few years

*raise a hand who is surprised, after all, half of DW team was Phil Kelly...

**to the point Codex didn't even bothered to explain how mixed squads, a major DW feature, are supposed to work producing massive rule contradictions and headaches/arguments for everyone who ran them, even when you wanted to do something as simple as moving the models

**Kawauso**

Ratius wrote:
Guns are totally oversized

That's par for the course with GW since forever.

The heavy bolter carted around by the IG heavy weapons teams is massive. As are the pistols for pretty much everyone.

**MonkeyBallistic**

Ratius wrote:
Guns are totally oversized

Yeah, they’re designed for 40k.

**A.T.**

Ratius wrote:
Guns are totally oversized

The look around the same size as the originals. Though the old retributors had the nice detail of an exoskeleton over their armour to support the extra weight.

**Captain Joystick**

I want to see their back sides.

...

Wait. No.

I want to see the other side of the model to see where the ammo belt feeds into.

The old metal retributors' ammo belts would feed into these little purses on their hips, it made no sense. I'm hoping we see some reasonable ammo box attachment on their backpack at least, since we're definitely not getting the sensibly bulky devastator backpack.

pm713 wrote:
I find all the complaints about the hair weird. I saw so many people praise the metal models hair but now there's a plastic version that's terrible.

I like it.

It's not about the haircut itself. The hair of metal sisters are modeled with strands all over, so by default you'd always get a lot of definition with the individual strands even with just a wash and some overbrushing:

Spoiler:

The new hair is in line with the hair of GW's more recent plastics, including the new Celestine, meaning you've got a lot more flat surface and a lot less defined locks. It's not bad per-se but it's going to be more work to paint.

**Ratius**

Yeah but with a whole new revamp of the range, its a chance to press the reset button (even just a notch).
I aint diggin em.

**Geifer**

Ratius wrote:
Yeah but with a whole new revamp of the range, its a chance to press the reset button (even just a notch).
I aint diggin em.

You know what happened the last time GW hit the reset button? Tall Cadians, a decade and a half of midget Marines while all other unaugmented humans caught up with Cadians and new Marines to stand taller than humans again.

You'll get the same with dropping trademark GW design from Sisters. They'll either not fit with the rest of the game anymore, which is obviously counterproductive, or GW has to redo everything they did in the past two decades all over gain to fit the new design.

That's a bit much to ask.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Captain Joystick wrote:
I
I want to see the other side of the model to see where the ammo belt feeds into.

The old metal retributors' ammo belts would feed into these little purses on their hips, it made no sense. I'm hoping we see some reasonable ammo box attachment on their backpack at least, since we're definitely not getting the sensibly bulky devastator backpack.

Warp purses drawing ammo from another dim-

No that doesn't fit.

Nano purses! Nanomachines building ammo out of molecules in the atmosphere!

**CthuluIsSpy**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Captain Joystick wrote:
I
I want to see the other side of the model to see where the ammo belt feeds into.

The old metal retributors' ammo belts would feed into these little purses on their hips, it made no sense. I'm hoping we see some reasonable ammo box attachment on their backpack at least, since we're definitely not getting the sensibly bulky devastator backpack.

Warp purses drawing ammo from another dim-

No that doesn't fit.

Nano purses! Nanomachines building ammo out of molecules in the atmosphere!

When in doubt, just say its nanomachines, son.
Hell, it works for necrons. Living Metal seems like its made from the stuff, going by descriptions.

Everyone - Why won't you die?!
Necrons - Nanomachines, son. Repairs any damage.

**Nurglitch**

I'm pretty impressed with that middle-aged schlub of a cherub.

**Strg Alt**

NoggintheNog wrote:
I seem to recall Jervis saying that most of GW's customers don't actually play the games at all.

So the relationship between rules and sales is always negligible.

The older you get, the less you play because of living an adult life. Maybe that was what Jervis meant by his response.

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MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Galas wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
What is it with modern GW doing heroic scale on male models but this weird hybrid on female models where the guns are HUEG and the hands a bit oversized, but the heads and feet are almost truescale.

Pick a style and stick to it.

I prefer this style. In this scale and heroic proportions is the only way to make semi heroic feminine miniatures that actually look feminine but not too stilized like Malifaux or Raging Heroes ones.

I don't know. All female models done from GW in the past like 1-2 years have been phenomenal. All the previous ones have been horrible, so I don't think they are doing anything wrong. And they don't look off alongside male models either.

I agree that GW is making some amazing female minis these days. My only issue is that to make them more slender, they often make them taller resulting in all women in the 41st millennium being 6 foot plus and taller than most men.

Or maybe, their recruitment center has very high standards when choosing suitable candidates for the sisterhood? After all you don´t want a midget regiment that is laughed off the battlefield but warriors who are tall enough to have an intimidating effect on the opposition.

Anyway, the whole debate about scale is laughable because all minis with power armour have been widely off the mark up to this day. Why? Well, because they are not wide enough for a healthy human to fit in.

**Mr Morden**

Very happy with those - fit nicely with the current range.

**Sarouan**

Debate about scale is indeed laughable, especially when it's about renders.

But hey, it's more about hating GW's work for the sake of hating GW's work, at this point.