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 Geifer wrote:
Current Repentias suffer a little from being surprisingly modestly clad for naked Sisters with giant chainswords and some stapled on scripture. It gives the impression of the oft quoted BDSM nun much more than the raging zealots they're supposed to be.

GW should at least drop the armor bits on the new ones. While they serve to tie the models in with the other Sisters, they do detract from the idea behind Repentias. Galas isn't wrong to mention Flagellants in this regard. Do they need puffy arms and giant feathers for you to know they're a legitimate Empire unit? No. And their ragtag look even enhances the appearance of a Warrior-Priest in the unit with the direct poor fanatics/rich clergy contrast.

Repentias could be that.

Also, boobies.


My personal take on Repentias it's similar to the Wulfen look, just rag tag and worn off armor, the Repentias are sisters so mad/devoted just focus in going from battle to battle and praying for attonement, never caring for their armour.
   
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I agree that a better look for Repentia would be to have them covered in scrolls, rather than the current look. It is the style seen on the Witchhunters Codex cover.

With a suitable amount of scripture and paper stapled on, the models will be plenty modest enough to sell to kids' mums. Yet, wearing only paper, they will still be unarmoured and vulnerable in their penance.

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You want to make Repentia work, then make them look like the original artwork (spoiling potentially big pic):

Spoiler:


There's was nothing titillating about that. It's horrifying.

   
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Thats exactly what I was referring too with my comment about flagellants, but I was too lazy to search the image

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You want to make Repentia work, then make them look like the original artwork (spoiling potentially big pic):

Spoiler:


There's was nothing titillating about that. It's horrifying.



That's very weird for me but…
Spoiler:
we are in agreement there!

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Whoa. I haven't seen that before. Yeah, you wouldn't forget those in a hurry, jfc...
   
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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Vey nice, very catholic, hope we'll get even more skulls everywhere though. The Sisters is really the faction where skulls are the most appropriate in the skull universe of skulls that is Warhammer "40 000 Skulls".
I mean, catholics do this:


Yeah but only on special occasions, during ordinary time two or three skulls tastefully arranged is more than enough

 
   
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 Lord Perversor wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
Current Repentias suffer a little from being surprisingly modestly clad for naked Sisters with giant chainswords and some stapled on scripture. It gives the impression of the oft quoted BDSM nun much more than the raging zealots they're supposed to be.

GW should at least drop the armor bits on the new ones. While they serve to tie the models in with the other Sisters, they do detract from the idea behind Repentias. Galas isn't wrong to mention Flagellants in this regard. Do they need puffy arms and giant feathers for you to know they're a legitimate Empire unit? No. And their ragtag look even enhances the appearance of a Warrior-Priest in the unit with the direct poor fanatics/rich clergy contrast.

Repentias could be that.

Also, boobies.


My personal take on Repentias it's similar to the Wulfen look, just rag tag and worn off armor, the Repentias are sisters so mad/devoted just focus in going from battle to battle and praying for attonement, never caring for their armour.


I actually like the idea that they think that “the Word of the Emperor” (i.e. written on bits of paper) is greater armour than anything the Mechanicum could devise. Might even be true against daemons...

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I'd like to see Repentia wearing very similar gear to Pious Vorne from BSF. Looks similar to the SoB PA but a with the bling stripped away and not Powered Armour.

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Second render of nuSOB we've seen, and a second one showing combat boots rather than combat heels.

I think we can - unless further evidence presents itself - confirm that GW won't be adding combat heels to a SOB range that never had them in the first place

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 Jadenim wrote:
 Lord Perversor wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
Current Repentias suffer a little from being surprisingly modestly clad for naked Sisters with giant chainswords and some stapled on scripture. It gives the impression of the oft quoted BDSM nun much more than the raging zealots they're supposed to be.

GW should at least drop the armor bits on the new ones. While they serve to tie the models in with the other Sisters, they do detract from the idea behind Repentias. Galas isn't wrong to mention Flagellants in this regard. Do they need puffy arms and giant feathers for you to know they're a legitimate Empire unit? No. And their ragtag look even enhances the appearance of a Warrior-Priest in the unit with the direct poor fanatics/rich clergy contrast.

Repentias could be that.

Also, boobies.


My personal take on Repentias it's similar to the Wulfen look, just rag tag and worn off armor, the Repentias are sisters so mad/devoted just focus in going from battle to battle and praying for attonement, never caring for their armour.


I actually like the idea that they think that “the Word of the Emperor” (i.e. written on bits of paper) is greater armour than anything the Mechanicum could devise. Might even be true against daemons...


The way I roll saves for power armor it's true for more than just Daemons. Empirical evidence FTW!

 Dysartes wrote:
Second render of nuSOB we've seen, and a second one showing combat boots rather than combat heels.

I think we can - unless further evidence presents itself - confirm that GW won't be adding combat heels to a SOB range that never had them in the first place


I have my doubts that the crowd that goes nuts over non-existant high heels will be swayed by evidence...

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I'm just glad that they keep boob plate.

   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Yeah but only on special occasions, during ordinary time two or three skulls tastefully arranged is more than enough

I'm not saying every Catholic has skulls in his living room. I'm just saying I don't know of any other religion that has multiple churches with enshrined human remains in golden transparent containers, or the whole “make sculpture out of human bones” things.

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Thats what happens to your religion when his beginnings are in the crypts behind Rome to avoid persecution. You end up with a fetish for bones and human remains.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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A bit disappointing. I had hoped for a revised design (akin to what the Dark Eldar received in 2010).

Perhaps in the next codex.

Imagine that you’re sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don’t get any. So you say “I should get my fair share.” And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, “everyone should get their fair share.” Now, that’s a wonderful sentiment — indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad’s smart-!@# comment just dismissed you and didn’t solve the problem that you still haven’t gotten any!

The problem is that the statement “I should get my fair share” had an implicit “too” at the end: “I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else.” But your dad’s response treated your statement as though you meant “only I should get my fair share”, which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that “everyone should get their fair share,” while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.

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 Ashiraya wrote:
A bit disappointing. I had hoped for a revised design (akin to what the Dark Eldar received in 2010).

Perhaps in the next codex.


I very much doubt that many of us will live long enough to see GW revamp the upcoming incarnation of Battle Sisters.

As it is I've already seen people grow old waiting for this incarnation, myself included.

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 Ashiraya wrote:
A bit disappointing. I had hoped for a revised design (akin to what the Dark Eldar received in 2010).

Perhaps in the next codex.


Just wait and see the new units that will come with this codex, I doubt we'll only have "metal SoB but in platsic".

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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 Ashiraya wrote:
A bit disappointing. I had hoped for a revised design (akin to what the Dark Eldar received in 2010).

Perhaps in the next codex.


What sort of revised design were you hoping for, and would they still have looked like Sisters of Battle after your changes?

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Well, Sisters of Battle would have looked how GW wanted, just like new dark eldar are as much or more Dark Eldar than the old BDSM ones. Just like Metal-Plated Black Orcs are as orcs as the old horned-helmet silly ones.

But I prefer for them to keep this style. I love it. And unlike the old dark eldars they still look cool by today standards from a design point of view.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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 Galas wrote:
Well, Sisters of Battle would have looked how GW wanted, just like new dark eldar are as much or more Dark Eldar than the old BDSM ones. Just like Metal-Plated Black Orcs are as orcs as the old horned-helmet silly ones.

But I prefer for them to keep this style. I love it. And unlike the old dark eldars they still look cool by today standards from a design point of view.


The difference is, the old Dark Eldar models looked crap. The design of the old sisters was fine, it’s just the sculpts/material hasn’t quite held up.
   
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^ This. The old DE (and I have a few) look absolutely dreadful when put next to the new(er) incarnations. SoB look great next to my templars, but metal/age makes the models hard to work with, and definitely deserving of a revamp.

Given the expectations have been building for quite some time on this, I think playing it safe with the previews and keeping to the original and much-beloved aesthetic was a smart move. Any change would have been hyper analysed and most likely fragment the community. This gives them a much safer run-out of the new line which, having analysed performance, can be fleshed out/played with later down the line.



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 Dysartes wrote:


What sort of revised design were you hoping for, and would they still have looked like Sisters of Battle after your changes?


Well, I like some parts and dislike others.

While I agree that DEldar were in greater need of an overhaul, I feel like SoB are very dated too.

Wouldn't just throw out everything, mind you. Their helmets, for example, are one of my favourite designs in the setting - possibly my favourite.

But I would have liked GW to take a bold new overall design approach in the vein of the 2010 DEldar regardless. I am no designer, only a consumer.

Maybe something less extreme than 3rd ed > 5th ed DEldar, and something more akin to marines > primaris? I could write a long post about specifics, but that's been done to death before and would probably derail things.


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Imagine that you’re sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don’t get any. So you say “I should get my fair share.” And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, “everyone should get their fair share.” Now, that’s a wonderful sentiment — indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad’s smart-!@# comment just dismissed you and didn’t solve the problem that you still haven’t gotten any!

The problem is that the statement “I should get my fair share” had an implicit “too” at the end: “I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else.” But your dad’s response treated your statement as though you meant “only I should get my fair share”, which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that “everyone should get their fair share,” while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.

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 Ashiraya wrote:
Wouldn't just throw out everything, mind you. Their helmets, for example, are one of my favourite designs in the setting - possibly my favourite.

Someone in 40k general just asked if he was the only one to dislike the helmet. Everyone else answered basically that yes, he was the only one to dislike it. And it's been in my sig for years too!

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 Albertorius wrote:
Going back to one of my examples, the rebooted Dark Eldars are still unmistakingly Dark Eldars, I would say, and still anything and everything is better than what was before. So far, with these SoBs we have exactly what we had before, except more defined and with better detail, but it is 100% what was before, with little or no redesign whatsoever. I do like them, a lot, so far. But I don't know wether or not I would have liked them if they had strayed more from that, because they haven't, at least not so far.
So first of all, in a thread about Sisters, it’s always important to emphasize agreement where possible so yeah keeping in mind we both agree, along with many others, that what we have seen so far looks very good indeed ...

I’m not sure what the DE comparison tells us. The new DE are completely in line with the previous ones, albeit of course much better proportioned and more detailed. That’s exactly what I think needs to happen with Sisters. And to the extent that there are some genuinely new aspects, I don’t see a problem because as near as I can tell they are in addition to rather than subtracting from the established aesthetic of DE. The other issue is DE have never been picked apart piece by piece of the course of a deacde (or more) by hyper critical posters who insist they are fans while it seems like their main point of contact with the faction is telling the rest of us what’s wrong with the faction.

Moreover, I’m not a fan of DE. I mean, I like them and I think they look cool and have a cool background — but that doesn’t make me a fan. I think perhaps “fan” is used too lightly in these conversations. Thinking DE are neat, like I do, is one thing but I’m not invested in the preservation of the DE faction identity. So I’m not very sensitive to where the specific line is about what makes them what they are. If I wanted to learn about that, I’d ask a DE fan.

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 Manchu wrote:
The other issue is DE have never been picked apart piece by piece of the course of a deacde (or more) by hyper critical posters who insist they are fans while it seems like their main point of contact with the faction is telling the rest of us what’s wrong with the faction.

Who are those people?

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People who have told us stuff like:

- Sisters shouldn’t have “boob armor”
- Sisters shouldn’t have bobs
- Sisters shouldn’t have corsets
- Sisters shouldn’t have “combat heels” (even though they don’t)

etc.

And addtionally, some of them have given examples of what Sisters should (in their opinion) look like and it’s nothing like what they are.

I’m not going to name names when anyone can look back into the record.

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 Ashiraya wrote:
Wouldn't just throw out everything, mind you. Their helmets, for example, are one of my favourite designs in the setting - possibly my favourite.

Someone in 40k general just asked if he was the only one to dislike the helmet. Everyone else answered basically that yes, he was the only one to dislike it. And it's been in my sig for years too!


I like the helmets, but I vastly prefer sisters without them. In my opinion the classic black hairstyle is THE defining visual element of the Sisters of Battle. Having a few helmets, or helmets on specific units is cool, but to me they aren't sisters unless the majority of the models have that hairstyle.
   
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How is the black hairstyle the classic when Sisters have been white-haired in like 90% of their depictions?

Of course I love the bob-cut of sisters of battle but we can't forgot that was a limitation of the time. I would prefer if they offer us the same choice as with Primaris marines, with enough heads for a all-helmeted squad or not.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Argh. The bob cut is so bad, when they should be shorn down to crew cuts like a proper nun.

   
 
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