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The fabric on her headgear is too long for my taste. I liked the old one better. Not a fan of how the book hides the narthecium, at least from this angle. Maybe that will look better from the side. If not, an empty hand may be in order. I'd cut off the bird and toilet paper for less clutter. Humongous base is humongous. Looks like 50mm to me. That's huge.

Overall, all the good stuff is there individually, but I'm not sure about the composition.

I'd have also preferred the Sister with the minor scratch to come in a unit box, for the sake of availability. As part of an extra expensive clampack she'll be hard to come by if you fancy using her in conversions.

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
While I do like all the new stuff so far I will be sticking to my old Metal minis because...well...I love Metal Minis.

I just wish I knew what Base size they are going with before I begin putting what I have together.


The Sister we got last month has a 32mm base. The normal Sisters' renders very much look like they have 32mm bases as well, although there's certainly nothing to stop GW from packaging the physical models with different bases. I think it's a pretty safe assumption that they'll be on 32mm bases though.

Of course the introduction of 28mm bases in Warcry as mentioned above complicated matters, but if they come with those you'll have no way of coming by them until GW releases the new size separately, whenever that may be, so if you're itching to get started, there's really only 32mm to go with at this time.

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...surprise, surprise, 3 for 3 on not liking the recent batch.

first off... seriously with the doves, scrolls and base? why did they put more holy pagentry into this model then the canoness? all that stuff to me is an eyesore here.

Second, so the originally non-millitants are getting power armor now despite never having them until this point that i was aware of? i guess since we are undergoing interface surgery for this stuff, may as well use it now, i guess. so whens my power armored Dialogus and maybe Famulous?

then it hit me, they basically are turning Hospitallers into apothecary equivalents in full, complete with the surgery equipment backpacks. which i honestly REALLY don't like because my inner mechanicus is chuckling madly now because that always first registers to my eye as mechadendrites and then the crossing religious streams thing happens.

I like the simplicity of the original one more. at least this one still can have the rebreather and the armor still looks similar in design... im glad they posted up the image of the original model this time, they should have done that more often.

Fixing list for this one- chop the apoth-arm off, toss the doves out, and if possible ditch the dying sister in basing. so much plastic id be paying that is so detailed and such I completely don't want.

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Los Angeles

 Mmmpi wrote:
Not a fan of the veil/head scarf, and becoming tired of birds with scrolls.

I think I would have been happier if they showed the hospitallar actually being a medic, rather than praying, as they're supposed to be some of the best actual doctors in the imperrium.


...what other birds with scrolls have there even been in the Games Workshop range?


 
   
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Celestine.

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Deep Frier of Mount Doom

 Sentionaut wrote:
 Mmmpi wrote:
Not a fan of the veil/head scarf, and becoming tired of birds with scrolls.

I think I would have been happier if they showed the hospitallar actually being a medic, rather than praying, as they're supposed to be some of the best actual doctors in the imperrium.


...what other birds with scrolls have there even been in the Games Workshop range?




It's apparently a theme with SOB. Not technically birds *WITH* scrolls but rather birds and scrolls... close enough IMO though.

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Longtime Dakkanaut





The Hospitaller seems like a very nice miniature overall, but to me something seems a bit odd about where she's looking. Obviously it's an unpainted miniature so we can't see exactly where she's looking, but it seems like her heads positioned in such a way that she's not looking at the book she's reciting from or the wounded Battle Sister at her feet, but rather just staring off into the distance.

Also, is that the normal size of a bolter for them? It seems huge, I thought they had a more reasonably sized bolter variant.
   
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Aspirant Tech-Adept




UK

I like the hospitaller. I hope there’s an option for her without the dying sister on the base. On the other hand, it’s going to look weird reading the last rights to nobody if there’s not a dying sister in front of her.

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 warboss wrote:
 Sentionaut wrote:
 Mmmpi wrote:
Not a fan of the veil/head scarf, and becoming tired of birds with scrolls.

I think I would have been happier if they showed the hospitallar actually being a medic, rather than praying, as they're supposed to be some of the best actual doctors in the imperrium.


...what other birds with scrolls have there even been in the Games Workshop range?




It's apparently a theme with SOB. Not technically birds *WITH* scrolls but rather birds and scrolls... close enough IMO though.


*Adjusts glasses* ACKSHULLY celestine's birds are coming out of a scroll, so it is a theme.

Celestine is a stage magician new lore canon 2019.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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Imperial Agent Provocateur





Los Angeles

 warboss wrote:
 Sentionaut wrote:
 Mmmpi wrote:
Not a fan of the veil/head scarf, and becoming tired of birds with scrolls.

I think I would have been happier if they showed the hospitallar actually being a medic, rather than praying, as they're supposed to be some of the best actual doctors in the imperrium.


...what other birds with scrolls have there even been in the Games Workshop range?




It's apparently a theme with SOB. Not technically birds *WITH* scrolls but rather birds and scrolls... close enough IMO though.


I mean, yes... I'm aware of the general use of birds. And scrolls. They are literally the catholic holy church-themed faction, so...
If the mere presence of either in the new range is now an issue for folks, well boy, are you gonna have a problem lol.

It's clear that even with a lot of the design largely staying the same, one of the main things they're doing with the new range is leaning into and emphasizing the baroque religious aesthetics that sets Sisters apart from the other factions - especially important for differentiating them from other Imperium factions. The overt religious aspect is what they have that's truly theirs, and makes them their own unique entity on the table rather than just a power-armored female alternative to space marines.

The idea of my full army, once setup on the table, looking like the renaissance painting of a church procession brought to life is precisely what i want

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Preacher of the Emperor






Bdrone wrote:Fixing list for this one- chop the apoth-arm off, toss the doves out, and if possible ditch the dying sister in basing. so much plastic id be paying that is so detailed and such I completely don't want.

You could put that backpack on any other sister model and have her be the chirugeon, swap one of the hands for a weapon arm, maybe strap another weapon at her hip or something and you have another Canoness.

Mentlegen324 wrote:The Hospitaller seems like a very nice miniature overall, but to me something seems a bit odd about where she's looking. Obviously it's an unpainted miniature so we can't see exactly where she's looking, but it seems like her heads positioned in such a way that she's not looking at the book she's reciting from or the wounded Battle Sister at her feet, but rather just staring off into the distance.

As-is her head is bowed in prayer and she can switch between making eye contact with the dying sister and glance at the book as she reads the last rights.

Compare and contrast to the metal Canoness who turns her head to read litanies from her book as she chops away with her evicerator.

   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






Oof. The Hospitaler is a big miss for me.

The base is way too over the top (and huge!).
Why isn't the wounded Sister reaching for the monstrance/medic? The two models don't look like they're interacting.
When I think 'medic', I don't think carrying a book and a holy relic - at least be doing something medicy!
I'm also not sold on her wearing more or less standard Sororitas armour. Something like a more lightly armoured (perhaps younger looking?) WW1 nurse perhaps? We'll have plenty of fully armoured characters in wimples as it is.
There are little details like the empty bolter casings all over the base, but the wounded Sister's bolter appears to still be fully loaded? And she has no treads on the sole(s) of her boots.
There are two different heads/monstrances. Woo. That'll make two models with the same wounded Sister at their feet look totally unique.
   
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Imperial Agent Provocateur





Los Angeles

the_scotsman wrote:
 warboss wrote:
 Sentionaut wrote:
 Mmmpi wrote:
Not a fan of the veil/head scarf, and becoming tired of birds with scrolls.

I think I would have been happier if they showed the hospitallar actually being a medic, rather than praying, as they're supposed to be some of the best actual doctors in the imperrium.


...what other birds with scrolls have there even been in the Games Workshop range?




It's apparently a theme with SOB. Not technically birds *WITH* scrolls but rather birds and scrolls... close enough IMO though.


*Adjusts glasses* ACKSHULLY celestine's birds are coming out of a scroll, so it is a theme.

Celestine is a stage magician new lore canon 2019.


Haha, i'm guessing you're just being funny, but on the off-chance you're not - that's just the air-suspension attachment point.
Much like the tip of a robe on nighthaunt models touching a gravestone to give the illusion of flying. They're not actually carrying the purity seal on her robe, just flying alongside her.


 
   
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Preacher of the Emperor






 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Also, is that the normal size of a bolter for them? It seems huge, I thought they had a more reasonably sized bolter variant.

Seems right to me, the Godwyn De'az may be the Godwyn's baby brother but bolters can only be so small.

Spoiler:

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 Captain Joystick wrote:
Bdrone wrote:Fixing list for this one- chop the apoth-arm off, toss the doves out, and if possible ditch the dying sister in basing. so much plastic id be paying that is so detailed and such I completely don't want.

You could put that backpack on any other sister model and have her be the chirugeon, swap one of the hands for a weapon arm, maybe strap another weapon at her hip or something and you have another Canoness.


Perhaps so, depends on how it is unbuilt. im just slowly getting annoyed with how to have what i was wanting out of this id have to fix to my liking.

just... why all this extra flash for what is currently an elite model and not an HQ? the bigger basing, the doves and such? as for the arm, id still want it gone period, as i favor the design of the original hospitaller, which they did mostly carry over otherwise. that ones still just preferable.

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San Jose, CA

I'm diggin the hospitaller

if you don't like doves&scrolls there is a new invention, it's a piece of metal that's really sharp on one side and has been said to make cutting plastic easy.

The base looks a little large but as long as you can remove the hospitaller from the base it's a non issue. If not, then surgery on her is neccessary.

The Sororitas on the base looks great and actually appears to be in her death throes. it does look like shes taken a few stubber projectiles in her abdomen, woulda been cooler if she was on her side and had some bolts gogo boomboom.
   
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 Lord Damocles wrote:
Oof. The Hospitaler is a big miss for me.

The base is way too over the top (and huge!).
Why isn't the wounded Sister reaching for the monstrance/medic? The two models don't look like they're interacting.
When I think 'medic', I don't think carrying a book and a holy relic - at least be doing something medicy!
I'm also not sold on her wearing more or less standard Sororitas armour. Something like a more lightly armoured (perhaps younger looking?) WW1 nurse perhaps? We'll have plenty of fully armoured characters in wimples as it is.
There are little details like the empty bolter casings all over the base, but the wounded Sister's bolter appears to still be fully loaded? .

And looks like it can only hold about 5-6 rounds, thanks to the general lack of scale infesting the various pieces of the diorama. Seriously, those casings are ridiculously huge, especially the ones still loaded in the gun and by the Hospitaler's feet.
'course the casings for the caseless ammo is always a headscratcher anyway...


Efficiency is the highest virtue. 
   
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Scouting Shade






These previews have been a sequence of misses for me. The last one has nothing of the devoted, healing, mending nurse. She's static, spread-legged, arms forwards, head facing forwards...It's busy but empty, her face is the typical "Angry scowl" that seems to be the norm with Sisters. It has no elegance, no feminine figure. The chirurgeon servo arm looks off, the pose is off, the base is too busy, yet it's empty.

I really wanted to start Sisters once they got released in plastic, but up to now I have only been disappointed by each bulletin.
   
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Battleship Captain





Looks good to me. Bigger base means bigger aura.


 
   
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Major





California

I quite like this figure, though it is a tad overdone. The rebreather looks awesome. Not sure what or whom the soon to be deceased sister is reaching for though.

 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




She's reaching out for the emperor about to take her to the afterlife.
   
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets





Stockholm, Sweden

The Emperor, of course.

Oguhmek paints Orks (and Necrons): 'Ere we go!
 
   
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Preacher of the Emperor






 Thargrim wrote:
Not sure what or whom the soon to be deceased sister is reaching for though.

Let's carefully examine the Sororitas and their beliefs, as a faction. Is there any one person that a delerious, dying zealot of the Imperial faith might imagine seeing reaching down for her?

Thats right: it's Sigmar!

   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Ehhhh.

I quite like the masked version of the model, but I resent the fact we're going to have to pay for a mini-diorama to get it.

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Gurnee, IL

That is a beautiful model and I appreciate the scenic base. It's gorgeous as well. The wounded sister appears to be enraptured, perhaps seeing vision on the Emperor as she dies.

The size of the base isn't an issue since she can be put on a smaller base. The doves and scrolls are also likely separate pieces. So you can leave them off or use them elsewhere.

If you want alternate Hospitaller models just swap the head, backpack, and arm from this model with a line Battle Sister.

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Really like the Sister, just a shame she comes with a mini diorama.
   
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Making Stuff






Under the couch

"As Sister Gretel expelled a final breath at her feet, Sister Peta paused in her reading. Off in the distance, mostly hidden by the dust and smoke, she could faintly glimpse the edge of her base."


Nice enough model, but the base is ridiculous for a gaming model. This range is beginning to feel like GW are still drinking from the Kirby 'People buy our models to look at rather than to play games' Kool Aid.

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Angelic Adepta Sororitas





UK

So. Hmm.

Anyone else remember when the point of getting plastic models was to lower the average price?

Now every individual plastic model is a miniature stage play, and will probably cost MORE than their metal counterparts. Might as well shell out for two metal Hospitallers if these wacky new versions cost just as much...

I also seriously question the wisdom of releasing a Sister miniature laying on her back, given all the nefarious Chaos players lurking around the conversion tables. That just isn't going to end well

Personally I'm a lot happier with this miniature than last fortnight's "Sisters of Tennis", but like just about everyone who actually plays the faction my first thoughts were immediately focused on what to do with the surrounding Diorama, since obviously I am going to cut the Hosp herself away from that nonsense and put her on a regular base instead

 
   
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You ean you dont like to look at your models?

 
   
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UK

I would have liked the Hospitaller a lot more if she had been some new Techmarine sister who was praying to an Immolator instead of a fallen sister. I'm debating whether to use her as that instead of a medic.


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 BroodSpawn wrote:
You ean you dont like to look at your models?


I think the point is that we don't want each of our own Hospitallars, or everyone's collective Hospitallers, to all look alike and stuck in the exact same pose above the same fallen sister.

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 Casbyness wrote:

I think the point is that we don't want each of our own Hospitallars, or everyone's collective Hospitallers, to all look alike and stuck in the exact same pose above the same fallen sister.

I think it will be pretty easy to customise the model with leftover bits from other sister kits*. And no one if forcing you to put the dying sister on the base of every Hospitaller.


* (Hella lot easier than customising that old singlepose metal model, that's for sure!)


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