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Something about the poses of the Arco flaglents remind me of the titans from Attack on Titan. Scary in my mind.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

It's almost as if they didn't think anyone actually played the game, just bought the cool models.

Considering the state of the rules, those imaginary gamers could be on to something...

Apologies if this was posted

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/07/battle-sister-bulletin-part-18-arco-flagellants/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=40kSistersBox7Oct19&utm_content=40kSistersBox7Oct19&fbclid=IwAR0jBhBZ1ehEIUwpsrFypwZxIGM6P5zXrpN0gD6ltsw6uOrCJaaRKcbou_k

"You may also have noticed that over the course of the series, we’ve hinted at loads of other models that aren’t in this set. That’s because this is actually only the (mind-blowingly awesome) vanguard of an expanded Adepta Sororitas range yet to come."

It appears that this says there will be some new options/models not just replacements


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A.T. wrote:
Wonder if they've move the arcos profile a little further from the other elite cc units. They've been squashed together ever since the 5e GK dex.

Ive had 5 arcos with a priest almost take down a knight with the stratagem, they are really nasty, but too fragile
Sisters need an act or something to help negate overwatch or something to get these CC options to pay dividends, you can't always ram a tank into somethings face first

 H wrote:
Is it just me, or do these Repentia looks "better" than what we saw in the preview? Or is it just a small picture and a different angle?

The further away you get, the better they look :p

It looks like the box is all monopose, and the earlier ones may be from the squad box

 Grundz wrote:
It looks like the box is all monopose, and the earlier ones may be from the squad box

Ah, yes, yes, that makes perfect sense.

I think this box might be in parts, a way to deliver on their "promise" to have something out this year (that is, deliver some "good will"), a way to gauge the interest level (in actual sales) of the faction, and a way to simply just generate some more immediate ROIC on the (conceptual/design) work that has been put in already.

Looking at the pic, the sprue breakdown seems to be
2x sprue of
1 repentia, 3 sisters, 2 seraphim, 1 arcoflagellant
1x sprue of
2 repentia, 2 sisters with special weapons, sister superior, imaginifier, seraphim superior, female arcoflagellant. Maybe the mistress or repenitance.
Canoness is single sprue clampack fig.
Engine is probably on its own sprue, but may be an stripped down version like the contemptor or etb redemptor dread

If the female arco had an eviscerator, she'd make a passable Repentia.

 Grundz wrote:
"You may also have noticed that over the course of the series, we’ve hinted at loads of other models that aren’t in this set. That’s because this is actually only the (mind-blowingly awesome) vanguard of an expanded Adepta Sororitas range yet to come."

It appears that this says there will be some new options/models not just replacements

No, its admitting something that has been coming into focus lately: that this 'November release' is just for this box, and the real army release is actually next year at some point.


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The arcoflagellants are very strange models. The bodies look ok (for surgically altered people) but the weapon limbs are probably the least threatening things I've seen in the entire 40k universe. A grot with knife looks more threatening.


The sisters models are... interesting. Superior, imagifier, storm bolter, flamer and 3 pairs of models with head swaps (helmed and not)

The seraphim are kinda ruined by the flying stands.

The Repentia Superior is a nice model, but the bigger base annoys me.

Voss wrote:

The seraphim are kinda ruined by the flying stands.

I already have smoke trail bases designed for them I just need the models to make sure it lines up

The chick on the cover of the new codex is Maria Hooch from A League of Their Own.

Change my mind.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Looking at the pic, the sprue breakdown seems to be
2x sprue of
1 repentia, 3 sisters, 2 seraphim, 1 arcoflagellant
1x sprue of
2 repentia, 2 sisters with special weapons, sister superior, imaginifier, seraphim superior, female arcoflagellant. Maybe the mistress or repenitance.
Canoness is single sprue clampack fig.
Engine is probably on its own sprue, but may be an stripped down version like the contemptor or etb redemptor dread

Was halfway through reaching the same conclusion when I figured I should have a look if somebody else had already worked it out. Thanks! It's a shame about the repeated arcoflagellant, that one really sticks out. Hope it won't be long until they preview the full set of those - with some luck it will at least have some amount of poseability and interchangeable parts to allow for decent variation. The older figures may have been creepier, but with these being more human they do appear more horrific. I guess if the repentia had been closer to what some imagined, they would have been too similar to the new-design arcos.
Hmm. Wonder if we might in fact have seen the more complete arcoflagellant preview if the box contents hadn't been leaked earlier, prompting GW to give the full reveal.

And what's the ballpark cost of this SUPER LIMITED BOXED RELEASE!!!!

I'm annoiyed they're using those trash flightstands.

Sisters look great but all those Repentia are so bad.. I dont understand what has happened with GW and combat poses, you dont lean/run forward with 1 foot on the ground while wielding a massive heavy weapon. Its like theyre nerf weapons that weigh 2 pounds.

Repentia Superior... Mistress sounds too kinky these days, I guess.

It's a great model, though, and will make for a great Canoness. I mean, why wait for the whip to break? It's inevitable. May as well get it over with from the start.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
If the female arco had an eviscerator, she'd make a passable Repentia.

Yeah, she looks more like a Repentia than the actual Repentia ever will.

 TalonZahn wrote:
And what's the ballpark cost of this SUPER LIMITED BOXED RELEASE!!!!

I thought it was LTD and now its Exclusive - need to know what exactly it is!

 TalonZahn wrote:
And what's the ballpark cost of this SUPER LIMITED BOXED RELEASE!!!!

Unknown. The limited edition codex (and a codex at all) throws off the regular boxed set prices.

Limited edition books are $80 rather than $40 for an alternate cover. Another $15 for the datacards. I'm going to wash dice and the rules booklet, unless of course they're Specialty Sisters Dice (in which case add $15-$25).

Shadow spear was $175, but had 35 models rather than 25. Wrath and Rapture was $160, but 38 models (though most were old models).

Given its 10 less models than shadowspear, but also all new models like Shadowspear (rather than a mix like W&R), plus the book and datacards... I'd guess somewhere around $200-$225. $220-240 if specialty dice.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
And what's the ballpark cost of this SUPER LIMITED BOXED RELEASE!!!!

I thought it was LTD and now its Exclusive - need to know what exactly it is!

Well, you should think it's limited edition because that's how the NOVA preview article described it originally. But checking the article now, that phrase is mysteriously absent.

So now that GW successfully rewrote history we have exactly one official statement from GW left and as per the latest article it's the full codex with exclusive cover art. Nothing more, nothing less.

 Geifer wrote:

Well, you should think it's limited edition because that's how the NOVA preview article described it originally. But checking the article now, that phrase is mysteriously absent.

So now that GW successfully rewrote history we have exactly one official statement from GW left and as per the latest article it's the full codex with exclusive cover art. Nothing more, nothing less.

The Nova article didn't actually ever say that.

Spikeybits said that the article stated that, and it got repeated until it was assumed that it did.
I was wrong, and Geifer was 100% right! GW did describe it as a "limited edition".

BrianDavion wrote:
I'm annoiyed they're using those trash flightstands.

I've never used that style flight stand before - I've only used the even older ones. What's wrong with them?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

Well, you should think it's limited edition because that's how the NOVA preview article described it originally. But checking the article now, that phrase is mysteriously absent.

So now that GW successfully rewrote history we have exactly one official statement from GW left and as per the latest article it's the full codex with exclusive cover art. Nothing more, nothing less.

The Nova article didn't actually ever say that.

Spikeybits said that the article stated that, and it got repeated until it was assumed that it did.

Yeah. It did say that. I don't read Spikeybits and I got my information straight from that article. I talked about it back then. Others talked about it back then. In this very thread. And unlike the editid article, people referencing the exact phrasing, in quotes, from that article still exists in this thread.

My only regret is that I didn't outright put the entire paragraph in quotes back then to preserve for posterity. And you.

 Geifer wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

Well, you should think it's limited edition because that's how the NOVA preview article described it originally. But checking the article now, that phrase is mysteriously absent.

So now that GW successfully rewrote history we have exactly one official statement from GW left and as per the latest article it's the full codex with exclusive cover art. Nothing more, nothing less.

The Nova article didn't actually ever say that.

Spikeybits said that the article stated that, and it got repeated until it was assumed that it did.

Yeah. It did say that. I don't read Spikeybits and I got my information straight from that article. I talked about it back then. Others talked about it back then. In this very thread. And unlike the editid article, people referencing the exact phrasing, in quotes, from that article still exists in this thread.

My only regret is that I didn't outright put the entire paragraph in quotes back then to preserve for posterity. And you.

You're 100% right. My apologies, I must never have really thought much of the text.

I went through and found that I had even posted the damn article text though!


The article stated:

After waiting for so long, you all deserved something very special, and that’s what this Sisters of Battle Army Set delivers. This packed box kicks off your Adepta Sororitas force in style. Including a swathe of stunning new plastic models and a limited edition codex, this one is dedicated to you die-hard Sisters of Battle fans as a reward for your unwavering faith.

With that in mind, it makes me wonder if maybe the reasoning is because of this?
From today:

Whether you want to start a new Sisters of Battle collection, expand an existing force with the new range of plastic miniatures, or even dip your toes into the (grim, dark and futuristic) waters of Warhammer 40,000 for the first time, the Sisters of Battle Army Set has you totally covered. And no, it’s not an abridged codex – it’s the fully updated new edition of Codex: Adepta Sororitas, with special cover art exclusive to this set!

 Ouze wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
I'm annoiyed they're using those trash flightstands.

I've never used that style flight stand before - I've only used the even older ones. What's wrong with them?

Unlike the peg or ball and socket flying stands, this one is curved,and requires glue to attach. And the attachment surface is small and curved, making it hard to magnetize, plus if magnetized, the model will tend to lean forwsrds.

 Geifer wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
And what's the ballpark cost of this SUPER LIMITED BOXED RELEASE!!!!

I thought it was LTD and now its Exclusive - need to know what exactly it is!

Well, you should think it's limited edition because that's how the NOVA preview article described it originally. But checking the article now, that phrase is mysteriously absent.

So now that GW successfully rewrote history we have exactly one official statement from GW left and as per the latest article it's the full codex with exclusive cover art. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm puzzled by whatever distinction you guys are trying to make. Aren't all of GW 'limited edition' codexes just basically alternate covers? The current AoS battletomes are described this way:

This is a beautifully presented edition of Battletome: Orruk Warclans, featuring a soft-touch cover with foil block, gilt page edges and ribbon marker. Each copy is uniquely numbered, and the edition is limited to 660 copies.

The gilt is trivial and the marker more an annoyance than anything else. What more were you expecting?

 Kanluwen wrote:
You're 100% right. My apologies, I must never have really thought much of the text.

I went through and found that I had even posted the damn article text though!

No worries. Big plus, at least you had the foresight to quote it at the time.

And yeah, like I said I think the information in the latest article about the codex is the correct one. Especially when they went back and edited the original reveal article. They probably don't want conflicting information out there and figure it's smoother to do that than post a correction and remind people of what they originally said.

 H wrote:

 Grundz wrote:
It looks like the box is all monopose, and the earlier ones may be from the squad box

Ah, yes, yes, that makes perfect sense.

I think this box might be in parts, a way to deliver on their "promise" to have something out this year (that is, deliver some "good will"), a way to gauge the interest level (in actual sales) of the faction, and a way to simply just generate some more immediate ROIC on the (conceptual/design) work that has been put in already.

If true any result from this release would be seen like year or two from now...

Voss wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
And what's the ballpark cost of this SUPER LIMITED BOXED RELEASE!!!!

I thought it was LTD and now its Exclusive - need to know what exactly it is!

Well, you should think it's limited edition because that's how the NOVA preview article described it originally. But checking the article now, that phrase is mysteriously absent.

So now that GW successfully rewrote history we have exactly one official statement from GW left and as per the latest article it's the full codex with exclusive cover art. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm puzzled by whatever distinction you guys are trying to make. Aren't all of GW 'limited edition' codexes just basically alternate covers? The current AoS battletomes are described this way:

This is a beautifully presented edition of Battletome: Orruk Warclans, featuring a soft-touch cover with foil block, gilt page edges and ribbon marker. Each copy is uniquely numbered, and the edition is limited to 660 copies.

The gilt is trivial and the marker more an annoyance than anything else. What more were you expecting?

I'm not following this limited nonsense too closely, but some codices get two different versions of limited editions. One just the book with a fancy cover and gilt, the other with extra markers, card packs and such stuff that's actually separate from the book.

I don't really care either way but given that the former is stupidly priced and the price of the latter is just beyond stupid, it's a point of interest to note that the codex isn't just a codex but a limited edition codex, because you can be sure that will inflate the price of the box. Or at least it's reasonable to worry about it. Prior to today's article we didn't have any indication of the bells and whistles in the boxed set and going off of the description of the codex was the best thing we had.

With this article at our disposal, yeah, you're right. It's pretty much a moot point. Dice are listed as a separate item, cards are there, we've got the full list of items included in the box to speculate how ridiculous GW is going to price this one.

Edit: Oh, one extra thing. People are worried about how many copies of this box GW has made and if it will be available for a while or sell through quickly. You can be sure that the inclusion of a box exclusive codex is far more preferable than a limited edition in that regard.

tneva82 wrote:

 H wrote:
I think this box might be in parts, a way to deliver on their "promise" to have something out this year (that is, deliver some "good will"), a way to gauge the interest level (in actual sales) of the faction, and a way to simply just generate some more immediate ROIC on the (conceptual/design) work that has been put in already.

If true any result from this release would be seen like year or two from now...

I'm not quite sure about that. Sales data is pretty immediate. The ROIC is delayed, but I don't think GW has a solvency problem, rather, it's about quarterly/yearly results to show on stock dividends or whatever they call those things. In other words, they are just wanting to make the books look a bit more "balanced." And the first, well, we can't quantize the "optics" really, at least, not realistically. But getting something out this year, a "starter" of sorts, does mean there likely is less "perceived" pressure on their part to rush the rest out, to quite those likely very few who still were saying, "well, I'll believe in them when I see them."

In fact, to that end, I think GW would be extra bad if they jack up the price on this. THey should treat it more as a sort of Start Collecting thing, rather than a deluxe box. The more people by this box and more of these boxes, the direct proportional later sales of the additional Sisters product will almost assuredly be markedly higher. But I am not in marketing or accounting, or part of their corporate strategy group, so what do I know?

Price dependent on this one. I'll likely buy it and not get around to it for a year or so when I see how to incorporate it in my inquisition stuff.

 Geifer wrote:
Repentia Superior... Mistress sounds too kinky these days, I guess.

It's a great model, though, and will make for a great Canoness. I mean, why wait for the whip to break? It's inevitable. May as well get it over with from the start.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
If the female arco had an eviscerator, she'd make a passable Repentia.

Yeah, she looks more like a Repentia than the actual Repentia ever will.

That whip is ridiculous.
Maybe magnetize the whip at the base and pack it separately,
or drill the hand a make a new one of wire,
or pray for an alternate loadout... power mace perhaps?

EDIT:
The thing to do seems to be to cut the arm at the base and magnetise to the shoulder.


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 LunarSol wrote:
Price dependent on this one. I'll likely buy it and not get around to it for a year or so when I see how to incorporate it in my inquisition stuff.

Inquisition is the thing.
How can we know? .