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 Albertorius wrote:
I'm already looking for mecha spider legs for that battle pulpit.

Admech onager ought to be the right size.

 Albertorius wrote:
I'm already looking for mecha spider legs for that battle pulpit.

Dune crawler legs seem perfect for this.

MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
I'm already looking for mecha spider legs for that battle pulpit.

Admech onager ought to be the right size.

ThirstySpaceMan wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
I'm already looking for mecha spider legs for that battle pulpit.

Dune crawler legs seem perfect for this.

Literally posted the same minute

Yes. many miles and give time zones away from the UK and my friendly FLGS (so friendly I said it twice) has guaranteed that I will be receiving one.

Love good customer service. Shame I have to wait for two weeks post delivery before I get to play.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
I'm already looking for mecha spider legs for that battle pulpit.

Admech onager ought to be the right size.

If you want to do it on the cheap I'm about 90% sure an AT43 tanks legs will work as well

Word is that the UK 3rd party / trade allocation is now completely sold out.

The Twitch stream didn't show anything new.

It did confirm that Repressors ARE NOT in the Codex, and that you can't get an Knight benefiting from Sacred Rites. And that you can change the loadouts on Penitent Engines. Whips were mentioned in that context; giant ArcoFlagellents?

Vague hints included 'Light of the Emperor makes you fast', 'One of the Orders is based on durability', 'Bloody Rose is great for Repentia'. They made oblique hints to a Warlord trait that sounded a hell of a lot like Beacon of Faith.

Not even a passing mention of the Pulpit or Zephyrim.

alphaecho wrote:


Yes. many miles and give time zones away from the UK and my friendly FLGS (so friendly I said it twice) has guaranteed that I will be receiving one.

Love good customer service. Shame I have to wait for two weeks post delivery before I get to play.

Fingers crossed they actually come through for you!

beast_gts wrote:
Word is that the UK 3rd party / trade allocation is now completely sold out.

Yes that is correct, Indies are getting an allocation rather than what they have requested despite being asked for approx numbers earlier this month, GW have not made enough to go round. No word on a second run

Hoc Est Bellum wrote:
The Twitch stream didn't show anything new.

It did confirm that Repressors ARE NOT in the Codex, and that you can't get an Knight benefiting from Sacred Rites. And that you can change the loadouts on Penitent Engines. Whips were mentioned in that context; giant ArcoFlagellents?

Vague hints included 'Light of the Emperor makes you fast', 'One of the Orders is based on durability', 'Bloody Rose is great for Repentia'. They made oblique hints to a Warlord trait that sounded a hell of a lot like Beacon of Faith.

Not even a passing mention of the Pulpit or Zephyrim.

Thank you for posting this.

Confirmation that the pengines have the loadout teased in the Art they showed is excellent, especially because it seemed like it was some sort of bolter weapon going with those flails.

'Hand of the Emperor' used to be the AoF that gave you +3 movement so it'll be interesting to see what 'light of the emperor' does. Anything that makes sisters faster is going to be very helpful.

Valorous heart was 6+++ so it's probably that one for durability. Bloody rose was +S +1A on the charge so it'll be amazing for repentia if it's the same or better.

Anything that sounded like convictions/AoFs on vehicles?

I wonder if this is a tactic by GW to get folks to order directly rather than through independent stockists?

Or did the indies come back with much larger requests than GW expected?

 Souleater wrote:
I wonder if this is a tactic by GW to get folks to order directly rather than through independent stockists?

Or did the indies come back with much larger requests than GW expected?

My guess? They allocated as little stock to the UK as they thought they could get away with so they could reap the superior margins in the EU and US.

 Souleater wrote:
I wonder if this is a tactic by GW to get folks to order directly rather than through independent stockists?

Or did the indies come back with much larger requests than GW expected?

Likely the latter. After all, why bother with lines and ordering day 1 when you can order day -5 and guarantee you've gotten something? I personally have had bad experiences with preordering limited things through independent/trade shops, since sometimes they can make grand promises but not actually get what they ordered. Ordering direct is the best way to guarantee you're going to get what you want, even if you don't get the 15-25% off that the trade stores offer.

Anyway, not a surprise at all. They say they make plenty, but not only do you have fans that have been waiting 10-20 years for this release, but also the scalpers that started salivating as soon as they saw 'special edition'.

I'm reminded of a picture of a scalper that bought some 10-15 copies of Forgebane when it came out, just to pick it apart for bits and the knight armigers. It was this huge stack of Forgebane boxes. I can only imagine we'll see something similar after Black Friday, of one jerk scalper that bought as many as he could and is going to sell all the pieces for a 100% increase in price on Ebay.

ERJAK wrote:

Hoc Est Bellum wrote:
The Twitch stream didn't show anything new.

It did confirm that Repressors ARE NOT in the Codex, and that you can't get an Knight benefiting from Sacred Rites. And that you can change the loadouts on Penitent Engines. Whips were mentioned in that context; giant ArcoFlagellents?

Vague hints included 'Light of the Emperor makes you fast', 'One of the Orders is based on durability', 'Bloody Rose is great for Repentia'. They made oblique hints to a Warlord trait that sounded a hell of a lot like Beacon of Faith.

Not even a passing mention of the Pulpit or Zephyrim.

Thank you for posting this.

Confirmation that the pengines have the loadout teased in the Art they showed is excellent, especially because it seemed like it was some sort of bolter weapon going with those flails.

'Hand of the Emperor' used to be the AoF that gave you +3 movement so it'll be interesting to see what 'light of the emperor' does. Anything that makes sisters faster is going to be very helpful.

Valorous heart was 6+++ so it's probably that one for durability. Bloody rose was +S +1A on the charge so it'll be amazing for repentia if it's the same or better.

Anything that sounded like convictions/AoFs on vehicles?

It may well have been Hand of the Emperor, not Light... My notes are a bit sloppy!

No comments on the convictions or acts on Vehicles. Someone asked about whether Penitent Engines could benefit from Sacred Rites, but there was no straight answer; 'Check the datasheets, and models with the Sacred Rites rule can benefit'. Or words to that effect.

Also, ripped this from a FB post from another person that watched the stream. Mostly same information, but a few other tidbits:

Ok, So the Warhammer TV stream was pretty much just going back over the stuff we've seen in the Bulletins over the last few days. Not really enough to justify a blog post, but I'll jot down the few new things we did learn:

*The are no psykers featured in the codex

*The Repressor will not be in the Codex.

*There are no "customer chapters" like we had in the SM and Elder codex.

*"The Hand Of the Emperor" is a Conviction that will "Get you into combat better"

*Priests, Missionaries and Father Jacobus will be in the codex.

*There are "many" named characters we haven't announced yet that will have "new and interesting" buffs and effects.

*There are a number of new units with datasheets that arn't in the beta-codex.

I hope this is useful to anyone who couldn't make the stream.

New Zealand has the box up, and the contents from the codex is one of the photos:

I wonder if the Triumph of Saint Katherine could be the coffin with the Sister with the sword and shield we saw art of?

Hot takes:

New HQ: The Triumph of St.Katherine
New Heavy Support: Mortifiers

Zephyrim Squad is an Elites choice

Battle Sanctum could be LoW or Fortification - likely the latter.

Mistress of Repentance is now known as the Repentia Superior.

We have Missionary as a HQ and Preacher as an Elite

St Celestine has the sword and and armour of St Katherine I think but it would be a cool relic.

St.Katherine is the patron saint of The Order of Our Martyred Lady - she is the Martyred Lady. Her armour and sword are those now wielded by Celestine. So looks like another OOOML special character, sorry other orders!

drbored wrote:*There are no "customer chapters" like we had in the SM and Elder codex.

Yep. Looks like two pages of Fluff on the Orders Minoris, but no rules.

*Priests, Missionaries and Father Jacobus will be in the codex.

Unless I'm missing something on that table of contents, the latter isn't true.

*There are "many" named characters we haven't announced yet that will have "new and interesting" buffs and effects.

'Many' in this case being equal to exactly one. Assuming 'Triumph of Saint Katharine' is a special character. Junith is obviously announced already.

*There are a number of new units with datasheets that aren't in the beta-codex.

True. 2 SCs, 2 units and what's probably a building. 4 (maybe 5, if the sanctum turns out not to be building) is definitely 'a number.'

Mortifiers are actually interesting. Except for Sisters Repentia, all the 'sisters units' have a naming convention of <XXX> Squad, including the new Zephyrim. Mortifiers don't. Which makes me wonder if they're a variant of Repentia or even Penitent Engines, rather than my initial assumption of dual kit with Retributors. Repentia to Mortifiers has a thematic convention (as in mortification of flesh), though I don't know why they'd be heavy support.

Speciation time: given that we haven't yet seen the multipart Seraphim, the Zephyrim could be an alternative build from a duel kit?

 Rubenite wrote:
Speciation time: given that we haven't yet seen the multipart Seraphim, the Zephyrim could be an alternative build from a duel kit?

That's certainly my assumption. Zephyr means 'wind/breeze,' so apparently they're adding elite slot jump pack troops, hopefully with close combat weapons.

Mortifiers repost your social media from 5 years ago

Could Mortifiers be another tank? Like an anti-infantry Exorcist?

Mortification was the religious practice of (among other things) causing pain to flesh to drive out sin.

Shame that Geminae and the Repentia Superior still seem to be separate units.

Imagifier very prominently there too. They're the one I most want spoiled rules for, as they're likely key to how effective we can make the Faith engine

Hoc Est Bellum wrote:
Could Mortifiers be another tank? Like an anti-infantry Exorcist?

Seems unlikely, simply because the word is plural.

If they weren't listed between the Exorcist and Retributor Squad, they could be bikers or light vehicles in the FA slot, but they look to be heavy support, and more than one.

Breaking down the table of contents
HQ
- Canoness
- Celestine
- Triump of Saint Katherine (new)
- Junith 'Flame platform' Emumblemumble (new)
- Missionary

Troops
- Battle Sisters Squad

Elites (in theory, Preacher and Arco-flagellants could be in the category above or below Elite, but I really doubt it, for now, sticking with the beta version slot makes sense, and Preachers don't really fit as individual troop choices)
- Preacher
- Geminia Superia
- Repentia Superior
- Sisters Repentia
- Celestian Squad
- Zephyrim Squad (new, probably dual kit with Seraphim)
- Dialogus
- Hospitaler
- Imagifier
- Crusaders
- Death Cult Assassins
- Arco-flagellants

Fast Attack
- Dominion Squad
- Seraphim Squad

Heavy Support
- Exorcist
- Mortifiers (new, I think they are likely a dual kit with repentia or penitent engines)
- Retributor Squad
- Pentitnet Engines

Transport
-Soroitas Rhino
-Immolator

Fortification or maybe Lord of War or maybe possibly conceivably Flyer because that one photo. But its a sanctum, so probably its a bloody building, and GW love, love, loves giving armies a terrain piece these days.
- Battle Sanctum

I have a Sisters bastion painted up so that could be fun

Mortifers could be the whip armed Penitent Engines?

Zephyrim Squad - please be jet bikes!

Mortifactors are almost certainly the shooting build penitent engine - if you look at the 'Bestiary' entry (Warriors of the Faith bit rather than the Army list) you'll see that there is no "Penitent Engine" but instead "Engines of Penitence" and no Mortifactor entry.
Would make sense that we've seen the combined art too.

Hoc Est Bellum wrote:
Mortification was the religious practice of (among other things) causing pain to flesh to drive out sin.

Tastyfish wrote:Mortifactors are almost certainly the shooting build penitent engine - if you look at the 'Bestiary' entry (Warriors of the Faith bit rather than the Army list) you'll see that there is no "Penitent Engine" but instead "Engines of Penitence" and no Mortifactor entry.
Would make sense that we've seen the combined art too.

Very plausible given the above point by Hoc. Whipping/lashing being the instrument of choice for causing pain to the flesh.

Uriah Jacobus is no more, he was in the beta codex but he's not in the final one.

Tastyfish wrote:
Mortifactors are almost certainly the shooting build penitent engine - if you look at the 'Bestiary' entry (Warriors of the Faith bit rather than the Army list) you'll see that there is no "Penitent Engine" but instead "Engines of Penitence" and no Mortifactor entry.
Would make sense that we've seen the combined art too.

That's a good catch- so Seraphim/Zephyrim and Penitent/Mortifactors are the most likely scenarios.