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Are they just waiting for us to ask them to ask us the right questions?
Only then can they send it out.

Brets back. If not them, human knights on horses, not zebras, not rhinos, not starving demigryphs, HORSES. At least I got a ptetty sizeable army and had a great ebay deal last year.

Tomb Kings line needs to AT LEAST get the Necrosphinx out for a M2O run. That kit is aleays listed at astronomical prices and clearly OTT enough for AoS.

A good Mordheim clone or Mordheim itself, preserved in a bubble of warpstone-based insanity bending time and space or whatever. Supported by warband releases like the Gellerpox and the RT dudes sprues with a variety of shapes, sizes and unit types on a big sprue.


Kill off the "no models, no rules" policy at least in so far aa not nuking megabosses and squad leader gear.

If you're going to ask for Mordheim, at least ask for the real thing even if GW's likely response to a surge in interest would be some AoS'ified nonsense.

Id like them to be open about AoS. What's going to be a permanent (foreseeable future) part of the product line and what's going away. And they to get on that and get whatever other factions they intend on the table already rather than re-re-releasing Sigmarines and yet more Blood Blooders.

Which they're doing again.

At this point they openly and happily axed Brets and TK, and now greenskins have been quietly purged with little fanfare at all. I'd very much prefer the former than the later.
Granted, it was just the 'common' orcs and gobbos (and trolls), and Gloomspite is rather well done, but the sudden assassination of the core greenskin line is kinda foul play.

 Yodhrin wrote:
If you're going to ask for Mordheim, at least ask for the real thing even if GW's likely response to a surge in interest would be some AoS'ified nonsense.

Thats unfair. Bloodbowl is Bloodbowl, not AoS Bloodbowl.

Bloodbowl technically never fit into the Old World perfectly either, it was always a bit of a stone throw to the side.

I would wager any Mordheim return would be in an AoS city and setting. It just makes no sense for GW to formally return to the Old World; esp as it would cut out all the new factions (Idoneth, KO, Stormcast, Gitmob etc....).

 Overread wrote:
Bloodbowl technically never fit into the Old World perfectly either, it was always a bit of a stone throw to the side.

I would wager any Mordheim return would be in an AoS city and setting. It just makes no sense for GW to formally return to the Old World; esp as it would cut out all the new factions (Idoneth, KO, Stormcast, Gitmob etc....).

And if they did release it (either as AoS-fied or original recipe), there's a good chance they're gonna drip feed it like they did for Necromunda.
That's apparently proven successful for them as people bought a quarterly update book for a year and then some/many/most bought the N18 version.

 privateer4hire wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Bloodbowl technically never fit into the Old World perfectly either, it was always a bit of a stone throw to the side.

I would wager any Mordheim return would be in an AoS city and setting. It just makes no sense for GW to formally return to the Old World; esp as it would cut out all the new factions (Idoneth, KO, Stormcast, Gitmob etc....).

And if they did release it (either as AoS-fied or original recipe), there's a good chance they're gonna drip feed it like they did for Necromunda.
That's apparently proven successful for them as people bought a quarterly update book for a year and then some/many/most bought the N18 version.

Yep and the drip-feed system means if its going wrong GW can:
1) adapt the next dripped content to suit the customer market.

2) Drop the system whilst leaving what is released in a functional state. Even if people hate things to end or be dropped, it at least means its not left "half baked" in limbo.

If they did real Mordheim, I would tolerate the drip-feed without a single peep of complaint. It would still annoy the piss out of me, but having a fresh crop of players to recruit from and hopefully new miniatures at least somewhat in the classic style would be worth it.

They did AoSheim...well, lets just hope they don't.

 Overread wrote:
Bloodbowl technically never fit into the Old World perfectly either, it was always a bit of a stone throw to the side.

It was in a parallel universe. Bloodbowl wasn't part of the Old World.
Yes, that's dumb, but there isn't any way around the fact that orcs are playing spikey ball with humans rather than ripping open their spleens and burning the whole place down.


But yeah, I wouldn't expect a 'classic Mordheim.' Especially if rumors about the skirmishy Allpoints game turn out to be somewhat true.

I’m surprised to see people clamoring for new ork boys, I think the sculpts look great.

orkybenji wrote:
I’m surprised to see people clamoring for new ork boys, I think the sculpts look great.

Well it's all subjective but they are incredibly old sculpts.

*Notices you like Slaanesh*
*Looks at the booty on those old Ork boys*

I think I understand why you like them.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

orkybenji wrote:
I’m surprised to see people clamoring for new ork boys, I think the sculpts look great.

Well it's all subjective but they are incredibly old sculpts.

They're really not. They got redone in late 2008. 10 years old is hardly "old" in terms of miniatures.

Also, a lot of the time when I see folk criticizing Orks/Orcs for being "old" what they mean is "I don't like the gorilla-esque anatomy", but that's a design choice not a tech limitation, and one I hope they don't change.

1. Better written and thought out rules so less FAQ & erratas. Its an absolute quagmire if you are late to the party..

2. Get rid of resin/finecast and replace it with plastic.That stuff is evil and must be purged from this world with hellfire.. Please save peoples hands from being mutilated by exacto...Yeah I know its expensive but consider the fact that people are paying more $$ on ebay for OOP metal models so they don't have to deal with it... Id personally like to see Eldar aspect warriors in plastic and maybe even re-sculpted but am generally happy with anyone not having to deal with that crap.

3. New xenos faction or tau auxiliaries for more variety.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Also, a lot of the time when I see folk criticizing Orks/Orcs for being "old" what they mean is "I don't like the gorilla-esque anatomy", but that's a design choice not a tech limitation, and one I hope they don't change.

The idea that people would want to ditch the Nelson Orks is just... heresy!

When is this stupid survey supposed to happen anyway. I want to opine gosh dag namit!

Reasonable pricing: why do 5 wracks cost more than 10 kabalites/Wyches for instance.

Update old kits before releasing new units with flashy kits.

Stop this "no modell - no rules" crap! I want a Mek with KFF WITHOUT Mega Armour, a Warboss WITH Mega Armor and Autarchs with their Stuff!

 Binabik15 wrote:
Brets back. If not them, human knights on horses, not zebras, not rhinos, not starving demigryphs, HORSES.

It'll never happen, because it's too easy to proxy in humans on horses. They need to have some unique trademarkable hook.

PLASTIC GUARD!
I really don't see why GW, at this point, can't go all out and make plastic kits for 4-6 different regiments. Look at the Necromunda kits, great squads full of flavour.

Have a 10 man kit for Cadians, Catachans, Talleran, Valhallan, Mordian Iron Guard and Steel Legion. A character kit for each, a vehicle conversion kit for each, and a large weapons kit or two that could be used in conjunction with any of the 10 man infantry kits. Each of the 10 man kits would have two models crouching and kneeling. They could be fitted with Lasguns but could also fit into Heavy Weapons within the weapons kit. Man would that weapons kit sell. Just have tonnes of cool options. Melta, Plasma, Flamers, Grenades, Rocket Launchers, Power Weapons in one kit and HW in another.

PLASTIC ASPECT WARRIORS!

My first army was Eldar way back in 2nd edition and it's crazy to think that if I wanted to restart an Eldar army today, I would be using a lot of the same models! Be bold GW, clear the entirety of resin models from the Eldar line and go for it.

NEW STUFF!

Let's start seeing some new parts of the 40k Universe. At the scale of 40k we should be able to field warbands and small armies of Kroot Mercenaries, Druids, Squats, Vespid and some new guys. The Galaxy is a big place! Also... not every race needs to bigger and more powerful than the last.

THE WEBSITE SHOULD BE COMPLETELY OVERHAULED!

Come on. it's 2019! The website is really tired. Especially the shop side of things. You should feel, as a customer, that you are exploring the worlds of 40k and AOS when you go onto the site. If you take the example of what I suggested above about the PLASTIC GUARD. It would be cool if you could go and select a tab for one of the 6/7 regiments, it would then take you to the world of say 'Valhalla' and would give you in-depth information about the planet, it's standing, stats and data. The models would be laid out in a force-organisational chart kinda way. With HQ, TROOPS etc represented under tabs where you would read about, buy, learn to paint and... wait for it. READ ITS RULES!!

I really think that GW needs to consider what's going to happen over the coming years. They can't just keep on pumping out books the way they are currently, as well as try and keep on top of the rules with ever-expanding FAQ's etc.

They should also integrate an army builder to the website so when browsing I can put together an army list and the items would automatically consolidate within my shopping cart. Different combinations of purchases could trigger discounts or special offers and it would allow you to be able to knock together different armies and see the cost. It would be great to be able to go on, put together a 2000 point army list, see all its rules in a nice digital army list, all the models in the shopping cart with applied bonuses and discounts, all the suggested videos and painting and related media. Can download the army list with all its corresponding rules and print it or keep it digital.

SORT OUT YOUR SCENERY!

Why can't I go onto your website and buy a fully fledged Gaming Tables with scenery? (Maybe even some fun unique rules) representing different parts of the 40k and AOS Universes? Tables at 2x2, 4x4, 4x6! That also DONT' cost hundreds and hundreds of pounds! A price of 2x2 - £50, 4x4 - £100, 4x6 -£150 would seem fair by most As long as the box came with plenty of buildings and cool stuff. A nice one stop shop for that would be very successful IMO.

Learn from what happened when you priced the Primaris characters at £22.50. They didn't sell nearly as well as you had hoped for, did they? That's why you went for £20 for the Kill Team characters. I've always thought the pricing was ok generally, but it's a fine line guys. Don't squander goodwill with greed.

There are a couple of things I'm going to bring up when the survey is available.

First and foremost, I'm going to be asking them to consider opening their own community forums attached to the community site.

Secondly, I'm going to mention the need for updated plastic eldar models, not just aspects, but guardians and characters also need to at least be considered and discussed as open for possible updating.

Thirdly, I'm going to make known my wish and love for a new Battlefleet Gothic game.

An option to "clear cart" on the website sure would be a nice addition.

 Hollow wrote:

SORT OUT YOUR SCENERY!

Why can't I go onto your website and buy a fully fledged Gaming Tables with scenery? (Maybe even some fun unique rules) representing different parts of the 40k and AOS Universes? Tables at 2x2, 4x4, 4x6! That also DONT' cost hundreds and hundreds of pounds! A price of 2x2 - £50, 4x4 - £100, 4x6 -£150 would seem fair by most As long as the box came with plenty of buildings and cool stuff. A nice one stop shop for that would be very successful IMO.

Isn't that pretty much just KT Killzones?

Those are out of print (mostly).

Togusa wrote:First and foremost, I'm going to be asking them to consider opening their own community forums attached to the community site.

They had one a long time ago, but it devolved into a massive dumpster fire. They needed to kill it and were right in doing so. I assume it's part of the reason comments are disabled on their YouTube channels. We will never see another GW forum again thankfully.

MtG finally killed their forum several months ago for the same reason.

 oni wrote:

Togusa wrote:First and foremost, I'm going to be asking them to consider opening their own community forums attached to the community site.

They had one a long time ago, but it devolved into a massive dumpster fire. They needed to kill it and were right in doing so. I assume it's part of the reason comments are disabled on their YouTube channels. We will never see another GW forum again thankfully.

MtG finally killed their forum several months ago for the same reason.

Actually forums are on the way out in a lot of places; mostly because a LOT of young and older people now use Facebook groups instead. For GW it makes sense to have facebook as their primary point of community contact and let their mods moderate there rather than spreading things thin over loads of alternate channels and formats. Basically if you want to chat go to facebook.
Now personally I prefer forums, but I can appreciate why GW will likely just stick to Facebook.

 oni wrote:

Togusa wrote:First and foremost, I'm going to be asking them to consider opening their own community forums attached to the community site.

They had one a long time ago, but it devolved into a massive dumpster fire. They needed to kill it and were right in doing so. I assume it's part of the reason comments are disabled on their YouTube channels. We will never see another GW forum again thankfully.

MtG finally killed their forum several months ago for the same reason.

No more a dumpster fire than Dakka or any other forum. The worst quality of the GW forums was that it was a company forum and had restrictive rules about negative comments on GW's doings. I haven't looked at GW's modern Facebook presence, but by all accounts that's exactly what they are doing there, too.

I suspect shutting down that forum was just another of Kirby's brilliant ideas. Imagine, hearing the customer's thoughts might be considered dangerously close to market research, and we can't have that, can we?

I think the GW forums also got a lot of trolls near the end; however overly positive moderation and removal of any negative comments I think GW also missmanaged the forum and bred their own problems that exacerbated issues.

A lot of people don't know how to moderate and companies can get really wound up tight trying to "hide" negative comments. Thing is that actually makes things worse because people see the hiding happen and that makes them think the problems are WAY worse than they actually are. Letting people air bad thoughts is better, company representatives can also step in to resolve matters. Sure the original person might be dead set in their viewpoint, but all those around the conversation can see that the company is aiming to resolve, tackle or at least address and acknowledge that the problem is there.

However they get worried and sometimes I think they hope that forums or such can be just positive advertising platforms that they control etc...

Other times they don't realise that the internet can blow something up over a day and by three days later most people have forgotten all about it. Ergo drama can be very loud, very strong but very fast to burn itself out.

I don't think GW would open their own forums. It's just end up being the usual litany of screaming GW-can-do-no-wrong fanboys, people endlessly complaining about stuff, and constant accusations of mass post deletion.

It's why I don't see them ever opening up comments on YouTube either.

 Overread wrote:

 oni wrote:

Togusa wrote:First and foremost, I'm going to be asking them to consider opening their own community forums attached to the community site.

They had one a long time ago, but it devolved into a massive dumpster fire. They needed to kill it and were right in doing so. I assume it's part of the reason comments are disabled on their YouTube channels. We will never see another GW forum again thankfully.

MtG finally killed their forum several months ago for the same reason.

Actually forums are on the way out in a lot of places; mostly because a LOT of young and older people now use Facebook groups instead. For GW it makes sense to have facebook as their primary point of community contact and let their mods moderate there rather than spreading things thin over loads of alternate channels and formats. Basically if you want to chat go to facebook.
Now personally I prefer forums, but I can appreciate why GW will likely just stick to Facebook.

Yeah, I just found out that the Steamforged Games forums are shutting in a couple of weeks, which is a bit of a shame.