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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 12:32:41
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Space wolves followed by eldar followed by demons. The warp is stupid and shouldn't be in 40K.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 12:42:55
Subject: Re:Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Aesthetics say anything nurgle based, it's just so disgusting.
For actual army it would be Astra BOGOF I just can't stand the codex and the attitude I've seen from people playing them, "my all catachan artillery list surrounded by sudo marines is totally fluffy and not a Competitive list. Yet take one non codex unit and your a WAAC soup player.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 14:38:51
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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Any static gun-line force whatever the flavour.
The idea of just standing and shooting all game would drive me nuts.
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Chaos | Tau | Space Wolves
NH | SCE | Nurgle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 15:20:29
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Anything <IMPERIUM> would be bad, but given my own personal proclivities the worst one would be Sisters of Battle.
Are we sure death is not an option? Better dead than smeg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 15:34:21
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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I hate Tau, Space Wolves, Imperial Guard...of those 3, I’d probably take Tau. It’s the infantry I hate for them. I guess I’d load up on Battlesuits and do minimal infantry.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 15:39:40
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
USA
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timetowaste85 wrote:I hate Tau, Space Wolves, Imperial Guard...of those 3, I’d probably take Tau. It’s the infantry I hate for them. I guess I’d load up on Battlesuits and do minimal infantry.
You can run an all suit list, it's not even hard lol.
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"For the dark gods!" - A traitor guardsmen, probably before being killed. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 16:55:13
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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So far it seems it is neck and neck between T'au and Aeldari.
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Please note, for those of you who play Chaos Daemons as a faction the term "Daemon" is potentially offensive. Instead, please play codex "Chaos: Mortally Challenged". Thank you. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 17:07:27
Subject: Re:Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Bounding Assault Marine
United Kingdom
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Tyranids. Outside of really small point fun games (under 1000) I've never been able to beat gribbly hordes with any other army.
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40k: Space Marines (Rift Wardens) - 8050pts.
T9A: Vampire Covenants 2060pts. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 17:17:48
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Tzeentch and Slaanesh have pretty ugly models on the Daemon side.
Imperial Knights are also ugly, I like their heraldry but the models themselves are lackluster.
Tyranids are a joke compared to ALIENS or Zerg (their newer models are a bit better though).
So, if I had to pick one of these three... I'd probably take Knights. I never had to face them but I can't imagine them having an interesting playstyle. Your opponent either knows what to bring or you stomp him. Little in between.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 17:18:04
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Tau and Eldar are generally the most vehemently hated armies due to their "my super special rules let me ignore all your stuff" type playstyle. Space Marines usually trail behind on the hate train due to people not liking their mary-sueness and spotlight sucking, with space wolves generally topping the hated space marine factions because other space marine players tend to hate on space wolves.
So, unsurprising there.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 17:18:21
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Missionary On A Mission
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Space Marines. Blech.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 17:23:00
Subject: Re:Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
USA
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Tau and Eldar most hated? Can't say I'm surprised.
I'd have to go with Tyranids, hive minds just ain't my thing.
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"For the dark gods!" - A traitor guardsmen, probably before being killed. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 17:26:31
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Chaos Marines. Any of them. To my discerning eye, they all suck aesthetically and their lore makes them seem whiny and pathetic most of the time. Nothing against other people playing them, but zero interest at all for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 17:57:55
Subject: Re:Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Norway.
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Age of Sigmar...
They never should have killed of the old world, I won't forgive them for that.
But to answer your actual question.. None really. The 40K lore is great. The ones I have most problems enjoying is pure daemons lists.
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-Wibe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 18:50:26
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Damsel of the Lady
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I don't really hate any of the armies though
I guess my answer would be... whichever army is easiest to accidentally break.
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realism is a lie
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 18:56:52
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Either:
-IK: Because tabletop minis shouldn't be mini. And most of the other guy's options shouldn't matter.
-Orkz, assembled-as-sold. There's an army where modification and kitbashing is always better than bog-standard. Plus, I've always loved Orkz being on the table (friend or foe), but can never picture enjoying playing *as* them. I think half the magic of Orkz is the player, not the models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 18:59:17
Subject: Re:Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Probably Tau. Cool models, dreadfully bang-head-on-desk boring in the game. I'd change my mind if they had other army builds, or still had a robust Kroot selection.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 19:19:16
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Primaris Marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 19:20:29
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Furious Fire Dragon
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It's a tough question, because I can find something to like in most 40k armies.
Probably Necrons, just because I'm mainly in it for the painting and they don't give much for a painter to work with, combined with not being especially enamoured with the lore or playstyle.
Honourable mentions to Space Wolves (can't stand the overwhelming wolfiness of it all) and Drukhari (never liked the aesthetic).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 19:21:41
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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For me, it would be Orks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 19:24:15
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Orks
SG
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40K - T'au Empire
Kill Team - T'au Empire, Death Guard
Warhammer Underworlds - Garrek’s Reavers
*** I only play for fun. I do not play competitively. *** |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 19:44:00
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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Nurgle... Just the thought of realistically painting all of that nasty mutant goo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 20:14:25
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Life is too short. I stop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 22:57:48
Subject: Re:Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
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Squats.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 23:01:58
Subject: Re:Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote: Brutus_Apex wrote:40k is sci fi More precisely, science fantasy. That said, it's still distinct for D&D or Tolkienesque fantasy. The thing is, the otherwise generic fantasy daemons don't have the "in space" dress-up on, and such feel out of place and really boring.
To top it off, they're a mass-melee footslogging army, which is basically the straight opposite of everything I would ever want to play.
Here's the thing I don't think you're seeing. Daemons and the Warp are effectively the reason 40K isn't sci-fi. The reason you don't like them is the very reason 40K is unique and interesting as a setting. They are what makes it 40K. You don't see the as fitting in because you think 40K is sci-fi, when it's totally the opposite.
I'm not going to argue the aesthetics of the models because I think that they're lacking for the most part, but they are the essence of 40K.
Everything else went through the effort to dress up to be "In Space!", though, but the Daemons didn't. They really stick out like a sore thumb. [Also, there are quite a few "sci fi" factions, and I'd pretty easily say that the Necrons, Tau, Tyranids, and Imperial Guard are far more appealing than the Daemons, Orks, or Eldar]
Second, I'd argue that the Warp and daemons aren't actually very important to making 40k unique or interesting. 40k is unique, fun, and interesting because the Imperium is a fascist theocracy. The forces of Chaos, and enemies of the Imperium in general, are just kind of there; because fundamentally, the Imperium is so monumentally gakky because of its own policies.While the soldiers are still heroic holding off their foes, the cause of their suffering is the Imperium itself. [And, if it strays too far from this, it stops being a criticism of fascism and starts being just fascist. Sometimes, I feel like it crosses the line, especially 30k]
Eldar are my second least favorite faction.
I can understand not liking demons or Chaos in general but saying that they are not important to the setting is just not true. You get rid of Chaos and the entire setting and the events that got us to the current IOM is changed drastically.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 23:06:13
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Eldar... Could never bring myself to plays elves, likely because ever since I was a kid doing RPGs with my big brother I was always a dwarf.... Poncy elves ....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/12 23:25:57
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Stalwart Space Marine
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Genestealer Cults. As someone who loves Guard and Nids you'd think I liked them. I don't. I despise the models and the lore. I wouldn't even play the stupid things if hell froze over. I'd just quit the hobby before I played them. In your scenario I would just sit around with the models and chew on them for eternity.
Second would be Orks. I just had a bad player in my group that ruined them for me. I enjoy their lore and they have some cool models, but I will never play them. I'm too focused on Imperium and Eldar to give them any time of day.
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Praying to get a game of 9th edition in before Summer. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/13 01:58:13
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Imperial Guard. Tau. Custodes.
If you see me playing any of these, I am probably the Thing in disguise.
Might have misunderstood the OP.
I would probably enjoy playing Aeldari( craft, dark, and clowns)if I didnt hate their models and fluff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/13 02:14:33
Subject: Re:Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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World-Weary Pathfinder
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The classic mix of World Eaters & Khorne Daemons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/13 02:34:45
Subject: Hell freezes over, what hated army do you play?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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I don't really have a faction I hate. If I was to go by which Kill Team faction I am not planning to get it would be Eldar. Although, that largely has to do with much of their choices still be resin. Honorable mention to Genestealer Cult as I don't think I would have ever got a kill team of them if they weren't in the starter box. The feel like 40k's version of a 3rd World warlord/terrorist faction to me, and I just don't like them.
As for a full 40k army, probably Imperial Knights, Sisters of Battle, Space Wolves or again Genestealer Cults. Imperial Knights just don't seem like a real faction in the scope of a 28mm miniatures game. As for the Sisters of Battle, they feel far too much like fluff gimmick army that has not aged well. I guess the same could be said about the Space Wolves save they morphed (wolved) into a wolfing joke of wolf marines that became to wolfing much to even be wolfing funny. And Genestealer Cults, they both don't hold my interest, and I don't feel they have enough an army structure to make much sense to fight 40k battles enough to warrant a full faction. It would be like the French Resistance or something being a full fledged faction in something like Bolt Action. Sure, they fought and were even match for the opposing forces, but did/does it really happen enough to bother with a full faction?
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