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There was mention of updating Ynarri this year. I believe that info was put out during the LVO weekend.

 SHUPPET wrote:
There's probably an official Sisters of Battle codex in the works? Maybe?

Given the faction had a beta 'dex in Chapter Approved, and are getting some degree of previews (possibly on a regular schedule), we can confidently say it will happen at some point. 2019, Emperor willing...

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
If they redo CSM and Sororitas Eldar aspect warriors might be the most outdated models in the game and they also have quite a lot of failast minis still.

Oldest would still be Ragnar Blackmane, as far as I can tell. Phoenix Lords and Warp Spiders are also 2nd edition, but I think the current generation of Aspect Warrior sculpts are newer than, for example, the plastic Catachans.

 Apple Peel wrote:
Oh come on guys. You all know you want to see Codex: Militarum Tempestus brought back. Keep your excitement down, however. I believe the best chance is a mini codex of sorts.

No. Just... no.

 Dysartes wrote:

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
If they redo CSM and Sororitas Eldar aspect warriors might be the most outdated models in the game and they also have quite a lot of failast minis still.

Oldest would still be Ragnar Blackmane, as far as I can tell. Phoenix Lords and Warp Spiders are also 2nd edition, but I think the current generation of Aspect Warrior sculpts are newer than, for example, the plastic Catachans.

Correct. The current crop of Aspects came out with the 4th ed. Eldar book.

This just reinforces how much I hate "burst" releases. I really do miss the days when GW would release random kits for most armies sporadically over the course of the year. The excitement was much higher when you had zero clue if you're get a new kit for your army next month. It kept everybody engaged and everyone had a decent expectation of something coming out.

For instance, with the new Chaos line revision, it's neat and all, but then there is the very sobering fact that come May (or roundabouts) it'll be done and players will realize that's it for another 3-4 years if not more. That sucks, and is a super gakky way of keeping an audience. Obviously GW's method is working because they're successful and financially in a good spot, but as a player who doesn't collect nine armies, or buy a new one every four months...it's a real let down.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
If they redo CSM and Sororitas Eldar aspect warriors might be the most outdated models in the game and they also have quite a lot of failast minis still.

Oldest would still be Ragnar Blackmane, as far as I can tell. Phoenix Lords and Warp Spiders are also 2nd edition, but I think the current generation of Aspect Warrior sculpts are newer than, for example, the plastic Catachans.

Correct. The current crop of Aspects came out with the 4th ed. Eldar book.

You're right of course. Aspect Warriors were merely the first Eldar models that came to my mind, there's other stuff in their list as well, which is why they should get an update.

ccs wrote:
I have a fairly simple want: The Shokkjump Dragsta sold separately.

well, your wish was fulfilled pretty damn quick! Pre order next week.

Can you now say "I just want Lion el Johnson to be released"? Thanks

 Elbows wrote:
This just reinforces how much I hate "burst" releases. I really do miss the days when GW would release random kits for most armies sporadically over the course of the year. The excitement was much higher when you had zero clue if you're get a new kit for your army next month. It kept everybody engaged and everyone had a decent expectation of something coming out.

You must be joking, no? Not announcing releases until the day before was a horrendous practice. Not to mention you were completely in the dark whether your force would even see a release/update during the entirety of an edition.

We know for sure that chaos is getting stuff relatively soon and sisters are confirmed to at least get a codex this year if not models. Other than that, I don't recall any thing else that was confirmed.

I'd expect GW to continue to add new units to various armies that don't line up well with existing options to push people to buy new models.

 Flood wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
This just reinforces how much I hate "burst" releases. I really do miss the days when GW would release random kits for most armies sporadically over the course of the year. The excitement was much higher when you had zero clue if you're get a new kit for your army next month. It kept everybody engaged and everyone had a decent expectation of something coming out.

You must be joking, no? Not announcing releases until the day before was a horrendous practice. Not to mention you were completely in the dark whether your force would even see a release/update during the entirety of an edition.

Nope, not joking at all. But I'm not refering the GW dark period (mid-2000's). I'm talking about the 90's. Each month in White Dwarf you received a number of kits for a variety of races. You'd get a couple extra when a Codex launched, but you weren't left without new releases for years on end because you got all your Christmas presents at once.

Dante and Azrael are also very old, along with mephiston, ezekiel, tyco, corbulo... Everyone of those models I've listed are from 2nd edition.

Outside of marines, the pheonix warriors have already been stated.

Abaddon but he's getting a new model, Fabius Bile is well old now

To put it more into context, some of the more obscure special characters have been released not once, but twice since then, like lemartes, old one eye, not obscure but logan grimnar has been released twice, I think captain stern may have as well? And I'm sure there are others, a couple of the dark eldar? Cypher has been twice, I think maybe lysander and vulkan he'stan have twice? Maybe the third emporers champion... I think we are on the second shrike as well? Chaplain cassius maybe? Sergeant telion, and maybe chronus as well, belial, samiel have been done twice since then?

To put it even more into context, we are on our third blood thirster, lord of change and great unclean one since then as well....

I mean, to really put a nail in the coffin that some characters deserve a reboot... Even the whiny sisters players can't complain that much, they've had celestine TWICE in the time since some of those models were released

Not that these SC's don't deserve models, or newer ones, but some of the characters listed have not even existed as long as the OG ones I named right at the top. Like not even in the fluff or had SC rules back in 2nd edition. Some did, like chplain cassius, belial, cypher etc but some did not at all and they've had multiple models since then.

Anyone else think the sneak peeks of the new primaris vehicle look like it could be reminiscent of the old "deoderant speeder"?

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Dante and Azrael are also very old, along with mephiston, ezekiel, tyco, corbulo... Everyone of those models I've listed are from 2nd edition.

Outside of marines, the pheonix warriors have already been stated.

Yea many of the OG factions have old character models still in use. Two of the current Ork warboss models (those that aren't Grukk), Mad Dok and the main man Ghazzy himself are all 19-22 years old. There's a few that need an update.

 Insectum7 wrote:
Anyone else think the sneak peeks of the new primaris vehicle look like it could be reminiscent of the old "deoderant speeder"?

Link?

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Dante and Azrael are also very old, along with mephiston, ezekiel, tyco, corbulo... Everyone of those models I've listed are from 2nd edition.

Outside of marines, the pheonix warriors have already been stated.

Yea many of the OG factions have old character models still in use. Two of the current Ork warboss models (those that aren't Grukk), Mad Dok and the main man Ghazzy himself are all 19-22 years old. There's a few that need an update.

Orks first got their 3rd ed update in 1999, so- maths...

Whilst I agree WRT to Grotsnik. Everything else- nope. How can you dislike anything about the Brian Nelson Orks?

 Grimtuff wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Dante and Azrael are also very old, along with mephiston, ezekiel, tyco, corbulo... Everyone of those models I've listed are from 2nd edition.

Outside of marines, the pheonix warriors have already been stated.

Yea many of the OG factions have old character models still in use. Two of the current Ork warboss models (those that aren't Grukk), Mad Dok and the main man Ghazzy himself are all 19-22 years old. There's a few that need an update.

Orks first got their 3rd ed update in 1999, so- maths...

Whilst I agree WRT to Grotsnik. Everything else- nope. How can you dislike anything about the Brian Nelson Orks?

Had a quick look on Stuff of Legends...

- The Ork Warboss (who shows as an HQ on the website, but didn't show as a character...) looks to have come out between the 1999 and 2000 Annuals. He might be a touch small, and/or sub-optimally equipped, but he still looks cool.
- Both Ghazghkull and Mad Dok Grotsnik show in the 2006 Complete Catalogue - I have the sneaking suspicion they may have been released alongside the Armageddon book, but I'm not 100% certain of that.
- Kaptain Badrukk, Boss Snikrot and Boss Zagstruk appear to have launched after that. I have the vague memory that they were released during 6th edition, but I could be wrong.
- I think all other HQ options were released later than those three.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Dante and Azrael are also very old, along with mephiston, ezekiel, tyco, corbulo... Everyone of those models I've listed are from 2nd edition.

Outside of marines, the pheonix warriors have already been stated.

Yea many of the OG factions have old character models still in use. Two of the current Ork warboss models (those that aren't Grukk), Mad Dok and the main man Ghazzy himself are all 19-22 years old. There's a few that need an update.

Orks first got their 3rd ed update in 1999, so- maths...

Whilst I agree WRT to Grotsnik. Everything else- nope. How can you dislike anything about the Brian Nelson Orks?

Actually, the oldest of those models is from 1998.

I guess it's a matter of taste? Ghazzy is pathetically small given his supposed gravitas, though he makes an OK Meganob model I suppose. The other Warboss sculpts lack the detail and general aesthetic of newer models.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Dante and Azrael are also very old, along with mephiston, ezekiel, tyco, corbulo... Everyone of those models I've listed are from 2nd edition.

Outside of marines, the pheonix warriors have already been stated.

Yea many of the OG factions have old character models still in use. Two of the current Ork warboss models (those that aren't Grukk), Mad Dok and the main man Ghazzy himself are all 19-22 years old. There's a few that need an update.

Orks first got their 3rd ed update in 1999, so- maths...

Whilst I agree WRT to Grotsnik. Everything else- nope. How can you dislike anything about the Brian Nelson Orks?

I didn't include Ghaz as he was post second edition, but he certainly needs an update. I'd like them to start with the 2nd edition models, then next on the list would be Ghaz for me. It would be amazing what they could do with him in plastic now you would hope. I'd give him Makari back as well, miss that little dude.


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 Dysartes wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Dante and Azrael are also very old, along with mephiston, ezekiel, tyco, corbulo... Everyone of those models I've listed are from 2nd edition.

Outside of marines, the pheonix warriors have already been stated.

Yea many of the OG factions have old character models still in use. Two of the current Ork warboss models (those that aren't Grukk), Mad Dok and the main man Ghazzy himself are all 19-22 years old. There's a few that need an update.

Orks first got their 3rd ed update in 1999, so- maths...

Whilst I agree WRT to Grotsnik. Everything else- nope. How can you dislike anything about the Brian Nelson Orks?

Had a quick look on Stuff of Legends...

- The Ork Warboss (who shows as an HQ on the website, but didn't show as a character...) looks to have come out between the 1999 and 2000 Annuals. He might be a touch small, and/or sub-optimally equipped, but he still looks cool.
- Both Ghazghkull and Mad Dok Grotsnik show in the 2006 Complete Catalogue - I have the sneaking suspicion they may have been released alongside the Armageddon book, but I'm not 100% certain of that.
- Kaptain Badrukk, Boss Snikrot and Boss Zagstruk appear to have launched after that. I have the vague memory that they were released during 6th edition, but I could be wrong.
- I think all other HQ options were released later than those three.

Both were just before armageddon campaign. I remember being absolutely amazed how large Ghaz was. The third was was in 2000

The new expansion for blackstone is big. I haven't even picked up the base box yet- there are sooo many good ministorum characters in those boxes!

They will release a sisters kill team along with the dex- some bumpin church scenery in the box as a value add. The may do a battlezone Shrineworld too.

I don't think it's Abbadon that's getting a remake... I think Horus is coming back. After all, 30k is popular, the horus heresy BL stuff is their biggest seller. Primarchs have already woken up- it would take a Cicatrix Maledictum to bring the B@stard back, and last time I checked, we had one of those...

There's definitely a Slaanesh release- the new herald and fiends haven't been released as separates. And you can't tell me that noise marine release wasn't market research- they're totally doing noise marines, and that means emperor's children.

I think Imperial agents will get some love this year- inquistors of all 3 ordos with details on how they synergise with the armies that form their respective chambers militant. This could be how they finally resuscitate Grey Knights; taking an ordo malleus inquistor won't feel like soup in a GK army, and it could really bring some buff. They'll probably port in the wd assassin rules and maybe do sisters of silence and rogue traders too.

But I think the new big trend is releasing 40k characters in kill team boxes (like the kellermorph). We need some of the kick ass drukari characters we lost. I mean, who wouldn't buy the Decapitator's kill team box?

They may also do a new box set- rerelease the game with different miniatures, or just go the tooth and claw route. Wouldn't even surprise me if they did this with sisters too. I think that release is going to be big.

Horus is not coming back. He's deader than dead

ccs wrote:
I have a fairly simple want: The Shokkjump Dragsta sold separately.

That's already happening - see this post about next week's releases:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/24/pre-order-next-week-ambots-titanic-weaponry-and-speed-freeks/
The two vehicles 'exclusive' to Speed Freeks are now going to be available separately in a couple weeks.

A Primaris Azrael would be a nice way to close out 2019.

TangoTwoBravo wrote:
A Primaris Azrael would be a nice way to close out 2019.

I'd be down for that! He looks so tiny next to my two big units of Hellblasters!

What we'll probably see is like 5+ new Primaris Lieutenants...

I'm guessing bigger Calgar will determine who else gets redone. If Papa Smurf 2.0 doesn't sell well, I don't see many classic characters getting an upgrade.

The fact that they put in that getting him to that state was risky and not a guarantee tells me background wise they are back filling killing off a few characters.

 Elbows wrote:
This just reinforces how much I hate "burst" releases. I really do miss the days when GW would release random kits for most armies sporadically over the course of the year. The excitement was much higher when you had zero clue if you're get a new kit for your army next month. It kept everybody engaged and everyone had a decent expectation of something coming out.

For instance, with the new Chaos line revision, it's neat and all, but then there is the very sobering fact that come May (or roundabouts) it'll be done and players will realize that's it for another 3-4 years if not more. That sucks, and is a super gakky way of keeping an audience. Obviously GW's method is working because they're successful and financially in a good spot, but as a player who doesn't collect nine armies, or buy a new one every four months...it's a real let down.

I've been playing since early 4th, and I do not remember this time of which you speak when GW randomly released models for a bunch of different factions.

Releases have always come in waves, usually alongside codexes. I remember when they were a LOT lamer than they are now. I remember the early 7th slog of "everyone gets a big heavy infantry unit. Everyone gets an HQ. Everyone gets a big giant thing." I remember codexes getting released and knowing I wouldn't be seeing half the models in the codex for a yaer or more.

Unless you're talking about SPECIFICALLY space marines, who have always gotten random new shinies waved in front of their playerbase's faces, or something like early 2nd-3rd edition, I don't remember this time, and I really don't want to go back to it.

With so many stray models coming out for Rogue Trader, Blackstone Fortress and Necromunda I'd expect some sort of Codex Micl will come soon.

Ambots for everyone!

Wishlisting, the Cadians came out in 2003 and were lackluster then too. New IG infantry would be welcome and would not require a new codex. With all 6 Necro gangs getting kits is it possible for the big 6 Regiments to get them too? Cadian, Catachan, Tallarn, Valhallan, Mordian and Steel Legion? Or even a better generic kit with all special weapons and heavy weapon.

I hope they replace the drop pod!

 Reanimator wrote:

Sumilidon wrote:
It'll be a year of redoing Space Marines into Primaris and updating the Chaos line, which they will double up as AOS updates such as Slaneesh where possible.

It'll be the year when Xenos players will see nothing, and soup will only get bigger

Apart from that substantial GSC release we’ve already had this year you mean? Of completely new models etc

True but don't forget, those were supposed to be released in 2018. They only ended up coming out in 2019 due to balance issues

They don't need to give the inquisition thier own book. Just give grey knights the ordo malleus keyword, deathwatch ordo xenos and the future sisters codex ordo hereticus and bam inqusitors become relevant

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Dante and Azrael are also very old, along with mephiston, ezekiel, tyco, corbulo... Everyone of those models I've listed are from 2nd edition.

Outside of marines, the pheonix warriors have already been stated.

Yea many of the OG factions have old character models still in use. Two of the current Ork warboss models (those that aren't Grukk), Mad Dok and the main man Ghazzy himself are all 19-22 years old. There's a few that need an update.

Orks first got their 3rd ed update in 1999, so- maths...

Whilst I agree WRT to Grotsnik. Everything else- nope. How can you dislike anything about the Brian Nelson Orks?

Actually, the oldest of those models is from 1998.

Nope. Orks got their image update initially with their codex release in June 1999 with all of the 2nd ed models that weren't vehicles being scrapped. A few Gorkamorka ones made the transition but you'll note the marked difference between the 2nd and 3rd ed Ork aesthetic.

Now, onto the HQs. Of those currently available the oldest is from that aforementioned June of 1999, so just coming on 20 years. Nothing in their current range of HQs is from before then (the only pre-3rd model they have still on sale is Dregmek Blitzkart from Gorkamorka repurposed as a generic Deffkopta. So he's not a HQ).

So going through their HQs on the GW site-
Big mek in mega armour- From somewhere circa 2012ish with their 6th ed update, so roughly 7 years
Grukk Facerippa- same.
Ghazkhull- came out with the Armageddon 3 campaign in 2000, so approaching 19 years
Big mek with SAG- this current plastic one came out in roughly 2012 (7 years)
Badrukk- came out with their 4th ed book in 2008 (11 years)
Snikrot- same
Zagstrukk- same
Warboss with big choppa- released in June 1999 (just shy of 20 years)
Grotsnik- came out at the same time as Ghazkhull (roughly 19 years)
Weirdboy- released with the 4th ed book (2008).

I would want new Tyranid models/ upgrade sprues.

Admittedly most of the range looks absolutely fantastic and we're not exactly needing it, but I just want biomorph upgrade sprues.

Also an errata allowing Tyranid Prime warriors to carry bio cannons so my damn prime I built can use his miasma cannon again!